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Why does Hamas launch rockets from cities?

CMike

CMike

Well-Known Member
Alceste said:
Here I am assuming my objective is to kill or capture Hamas militants, so their responsibility is to get killed or captured.

Obviously they should stop launching rockets at Israel, but it's to be expected that they will make an effort to defend themselves and seek out retribution. That's war for you.
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Defend themselves?

They provoked the war by launching the rockets.

They violated every ceasefire agreement by launching rockets.

This war would stop at anytime if they stopped launching rockets.

They want it to keep doing.

That is because the gullible fools, and the anti-semites love to have any chance to blame Israel no matter how solid their integrity.
 
Koldo

Koldo

Outstanding Member
RitalinOhD said:
The US Airforce has several ways it identifies and engages ground targets from the Air. One of the main ones is the use of a pseudo-special Ops group called TAC-P. Stands for Tactical Air Control Party. This is usually a small unit, usually no more than 2-3 people. Their role is to assist in Air to Ground engagement. They identify and assess targets to see if these targets can be safely engaged, while minimizing any form of collateral damage. they're utilized with air attacks from fixed wing/rotary aircraft, as well as drones.

They are actually very effective. A lot of times they have eyes on target through the entire engagement, until it's either destroyed, or the engagement is called off due to circumstances, such as civilians in the area, or the human targets leave.

This is one tactic that the IDF could employ, instead of just dropping bombs on targets they think may or may not contain militants. If the IDF doesn't have a Spec-Op unit that performs this mission, it should.

This is of course if the IDF is interested in actually making progress and killing militants, instead of just praying they hit someone with a bomb.
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In other words, if the military is mixed up with civilians, nothing would be done. Correct?
 
RitalinOhD

RitalinOhD

Heathen Humanist
Koldo said:
In other words, if the military is mixed up with civilians, nothing would be done. Correct?
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That depends. Unfortunately in war, there is a thing called acceptable loss. If a target has the potential to eliminate a large number of enemy, but will also kill a small number of civilians, it may be weighed in favor of attacking that target. However, one would hope that the attacking party would go over every possible strategy to minimize the civilian death.

To say that nothing would be attacked if there was any chance whatsoever of collateral damage, is just not realistic. It's one of many unfortunate negative aspects of war.
 
CMike

CMike

Well-Known Member
RitalinOhD said:
That depends. Unfortunately in war, there is a thing called acceptable loss. If a target has the potential to eliminate a large number of enemy, but will also kill a small number of civilians, it may be weighed in favor of attacking that target. However, one would hope that the attacking party would go over every possible strategy to minimize the civilian death.

To say that nothing would be attacked if there was any chance whatsoever of collateral damage, is just not realistic. It's one of many unfortunate negative aspects of war.
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And Israel goes to great lengths to minimize civilian casualties.

The problem is that Hamas goes to great lengths to maximize their own civilian casualties.

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Koldo

Koldo

Outstanding Member
RitalinOhD said:
That depends. Unfortunately in war, there is a thing called acceptable loss. If a target has the potential to eliminate a large number of enemy, but will also kill a small number of civilians, it may be weighed in favor of attacking that target. However, one would hope that the attacking party would go over every possible strategy to minimize the civilian death.

To say that nothing would be attacked if there was any chance whatsoever of collateral damage, is just not realistic. It's one of many unfortunate negative aspects of war.
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Be cautious. You are on the verge of being fired by Alceste.
How much collateral damage is acceptable to you?
 
Alceste

Alceste

Vagabond
Koldo said:
Be cautious. You are on the verge of being fired by Alceste.
How much collateral damage is acceptable to you?
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No, I'm not gonna fire him. He knows what he's doing. I've already sacked all the Dahiya Doctrine monsters, so we've already cut down on civilian casualties and infrastructure destruction enormously. I trust he'll use restraint and good judgment, and I understand that civilians sometimes get caught in the crossfire.
 
RitalinOhD

RitalinOhD

Heathen Humanist
Koldo said:
Be cautious. You are on the verge of being fired by Alceste.
How much collateral damage is acceptable to you?
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Exactly how did this become about me? I'm telling you how it is. You can either accept it or not. Not my problem.
 
Koldo

Koldo

Outstanding Member
Alceste said:
No, I'm not gonna fire him. He knows what he's doing. I've already sacked all the Dahiya Doctrine monsters, so we've already cut down on civilian casualties and infrastructure destruction enormously. I trust he'll use restraint and good judgment, and I understand that civilians sometimes get caught in the crossfire.
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He wouldn't do what you want. Unless you have changed your mind.
 
Koldo

Koldo

Outstanding Member
RitalinOhD said:
Exactly how did this become about me? I'm telling you how it is. You can either accept it or not. Not my problem.
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You are on charge of Alceste's troops.
It is up to you to determine how much collateral damage you will deem acceptable. So, how much is it?
 
Jayhawker Soule

Jayhawker Soule

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Premium Member
Alceste said:
That doesn't show that Hamas is anything other than a whole bunch of individuals doing awful things. Individuals are "specific targets". Many of the US operations against al Qaeda involved taking out specific targets. I objected to all the operations that did not.
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I misunderstood the point you were trying to make.
 
RitalinOhD

RitalinOhD

Heathen Humanist
Koldo said:
You are on charge of Alceste's troops.
It is up to you to determine how much collateral damage you will deem acceptable. So, how much is it?
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Yea, no. I didn't agree to be part of that game.

That's a battle of hypotheticals that i'm not interested in. Acquiring certain knowledge over an 18 year military career in no way qualifies me to make decisions like that. Even if it's only discussion. Sorry to burst your bubble
 
Koldo

Koldo

Outstanding Member
RitalinOhD said:
Yea, no. I didn't agree to be part of that game.

That's a battle of hypotheticals that i'm not interested in. Acquiring certain knowledge over an 18 year military career in no way qualifies me to make decisions like that. Even if it's only discussion. Sorry to burst your bubble
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It is alright. Alceste will have to find someone else then. You have burst her bubble.
 
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