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Why does height matter and should it?

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
At least in my case, if I was shorter, then nobody in my house would be able to reach the top shelf of the kitchen cupboard. This allows for a certain degree of flexibility in organizing a room, which my wife apparently finds attractive.

Lol, probably because if you're taller you look slimmer.
We don't carry our weight evenly over our whole bodies. When a short guy looks a bit chunky, a tall version of the same guy looks like a bunch of toothpicks stuck into a cherry tomato.

Speaking of which... I've really gotta work off my gut. No more eating crap or skipping practices. :(
 

Acim

Revelation all the time
I'll add some vulgarity since we've already covered protection.

Sexually, men like to feel in control and women like to feel like they're controlled. If a woman is submissive it is a sign to the man that she enjoys his company. If a man is controlling it shows that he's passionate - he "can't control himself" and she enjoys it.

It's not a proposal one should make in a Women's Study class, but it's blatantly obvious that in the context of modern society a lot of women like to have a man who will, in the bedroom, slap them around a little, throw them up against a wall, and so on. A short man, even if toned, does not easily convey this type of strength.

I second this.
 

Penumbra

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Generally speaking, the physical secondary sex characteristic of men that I find attractive are their size and sturdiness. Women are smaller and softer, men are larger, more angular, more physically solid and strong. I'm attracted primarily to the latter. They don't necessarily need to be larger than their peers, but so far, I've been attracted to guys that are larger than myself and stronger than myself. I'm not very big, so that category can encompass most men. I've been attracted to men that are strong, smart, compassionate, intimate, reasonable, wise, etc.

It's the hunter-gatherer thing I suppose. I want to hug and be hugged by someone bigger than myself. I haven't been in a position where I find an atypically small guy to be physically attractive to me personally. But if they have a lot of good traits, they'll probably find someone- either proportionately small women, or a taller woman that is very much attracted to them. Everyone has different characteristics, mental and physical, that turn them on.
 

T-Dawg

Self-appointed Lunatic
I'll add some vulgarity since we've already covered protection.

Sexually, men like to feel in control and women like to feel like they're controlled. If a woman is submissive it is a sign to the man that she enjoys his company. If a man is controlling it shows that he's passionate - he "can't control himself" and she enjoys it.

It's not a proposal one should make in a Women's Study class, but it's blatantly obvious that in the context of modern society a lot of women like to have a man who will, in the bedroom, slap them around a little, throw them up against a wall, and so on. A short man, even if toned, does not easily convey this type of strength.

Are you sure about that? I'm a man and I've always felt like just the way you describe how the woman should be (and I'm completely heterosexual). Maybe this is why girls never like me... :(
 

Songbird

She rules her life like a bird in flight
Are you sure about that? I'm a man and I've always felt like just the way you describe how the woman should be (and I'm completely heterosexual). Maybe this is why girls never like me... :(

You are definitely not alone. And you will find girls who love that, trust me. There are a lot of them. :D
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
I'll add some vulgarity since we've already covered protection.

Sexually, men like to feel in control and women like to feel like they're controlled. If a woman is submissive it is a sign to the man that she enjoys his company. If a man is controlling it shows that he's passionate - he "can't control himself" and she enjoys it.

It's not a proposal one should make in a Women's Study class, but it's blatantly obvious that in the context of modern society a lot of women like to have a man who will, in the bedroom, slap them around a little, throw them up against a wall, and so on. A short man, even if toned, does not easily convey this type of strength.

WOW... what a strange and dangerous view of women. :eek:
 

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
WOW... what a strange and dangerous view of women. :eek:

It actually isn't very far from truth.
The problem is that it is a generalisation. And lacks a lot of information.
Not all women like being submissive.

But, a lot of women are turned on by the idea of a dominant male. Dominance again represents power. And when it comes to the bedroom, the idea of a dominant male is very sexy...:drool:

(This might explain the popularity of vampire fiction)

I can only speak for myself, but the idea of being submissive to a strong, intelligent and honourable man is very desirable (both in and out of bed). But that isn't the same for all women, as far as I know.
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
I'm confused. This doesn't jive with the widespread assertion by females that they primarily value such "non-shallow" traits such as a sense of humor, sensitivity, and intelligence. Please don't tell me I've been hoodwinked this entire time, and women are as physically "shallow" as men.
 

Songbird

She rules her life like a bird in flight
We must have a majority of different women here.
I would have said that was true in the 50's when sex was a dominance thing. but times have changed.

Yeah, I don't know about the veracity of the previous comments. Of course there are many women who want to be submissive, but there are also men who want that in bed. Or people who want variety, not just one role. And sexual desirability is separate from life compatibility. I haven't looked at studies, but I would guess people who are younger and in the dating scene are more aroused by the physical power differences, but people in long-term relationships focus on different things.

Personally, I like a partnership with equal deference. And bedroom-wise, variety is the spice of life. Domme one day, sub the next. It's all fun.
 

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
And sexual desirability is separate from life compatibility. I haven't looked at studies, but I would guess people who are younger and in the dating scene are more aroused by the physical power differences, but people in long-term relationships focus on different things.

I'd guess the same. In fact, this sounds spot on.
 

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
I'm confused. This doesn't jive with the widespread assertion by females that they primarily value such "non-shallow" traits such as a sense of humor, sensitivity, and intelligence. Please don't tell me I've been hoodwinked this entire time, and women are as physically "shallow" as men.

Personality becomes important when we seek relationship with a person. On a purely sexual level, without knowing someone, there are certain physical characteristics that are attractive.

It's when the hunky, powerful man shows himself to be an idiot, that the interest is lost.

I think the main difference between men and women is the motivation. Women tend more toward wanting a bond with their sexual partner, whereas men (primarily) just need the relief/pleasure. Because women have this extra motivation, the man's personality becomes an important factor.
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
Looks don't seem to fit into my wants in a man: I like kindness, strength of spirit, dependable, funny, polite, somewhat romantic, and so on. My husband isn't kind, romantic, polite, but he is somewhat dependable and a bit funny.
 

Mathematician

Reason, and reason again
WOW... what a strange and dangerous view of women. :eek:

I won't oust myself, but I will say that I'm quite promiscuous and also indulge frequently in casual conversations about sex with strangers; it's not dangerous. It's the truth.

I've been having sex since middle school, and I quickly learned that most women (not all, but most) enjoy being dominated to that extent. I only met one girl who didn't "mind" the behavior but found it a little funny. Granted there's different depths to how dominate one should be. I've been with women where I called them everything in the dictionary and left bruises on them and they wanted more. You have to read the other person.
 
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Mathematician

Reason, and reason again
I'm confused. This doesn't jive with the widespread assertion by females that they primarily value such "non-shallow" traits such as a sense of humor, sensitivity, and intelligence. Please don't tell me I've been hoodwinked this entire time, and women are as physically "shallow" as men.

Foremost, you should realize that what women want in the bedroom does not usually transgress into other affairs. While it's often perfectly acceptable to call a woman some very inappropriate words while shagging, that is just a heat of the moment ordeal. Both men and women while having sex like to create a mental barrier against social norms and think of the act as purely carnal.

Secondly, women value confidence.

Unfortunately, it's hard for most people to be both sensitive and confident. The whole idea that bad boys get ahead with women rests on the fact they convey (at least in public) confidence. In my opinion, the men who get ahead before everyone else are gentleman, not just gentlemanly.
 
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