Why does my God allow children to die? Is he evil?

[Ingledsva]

If it is God's will that they should be inflicted with cancer to serve his divine purpose, then I doubt calling a doctor would would help any.

It is quit funny -


You folks claim healings as being from your God.


You folks also claim disease - no healing - is from God.


You try to cover both bases, - because in reality, - life is random - and normal human frailties could go either way - without any God in the mix.



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[Triumphant_Loser]

If it is God's will that they should be inflicted with cancer to serve his divine purpose, then I doubt calling a doctor would would help any.

If it is God's will that anyone should suffer that much pain, and endure such a slow and painful death, then you might want to rethink that whole idea of a "loving, benevolent god." No loving being that I am aware of would inflict someone with such a horrible disease intentionally. I watched my aunt get slowly eaten away to nothing by this disease. And I, as a child, sat there wondering what kind of "loving" god would not only allow something like this to happen, but actually be the cause it as well.

 

[Triumphant_Loser]

It is quit funny -


You folks claim healings as being from your God.


You folks also claim disease - no healing - is from God.


You try to cover both bases, - because in reality, - life is random - and normal human frailties could go either way - without any God in the mix.



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It's kind of funny... in a very sad way. They think he is the one who inflicts them with diseases. They also think that healing is from God too. They thank God for curing them of the very diseases he gives them. It makes no sense. That's like thanking the doctor for giving you a vaccine to cure your flu, when he was the one who purposely gave you the flu to begin with, just so he could cure you.

 

[viole]

If it is God's will that they should be inflicted with cancer to serve his divine purpose, then I doubt calling a doctor would would help any.

This is not what I asked.

I asked if you would call a doctor against His will of not interfering with His divine plan.

Would you, or would you not?

Ciao

- viole

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

It's kind of funny... in a very sad way. They think he is the one who inflicts them with diseases. They also think that healing is from God too. They thank God for curing them of the very diseases he gives them. It makes no sense. That's like thanking the doctor for giving you a vaccine to cure your flu, when he was the one who purposely gave you the flu to begin with, just so he could cure you.

It's like firefighter arsonists.

... and usually, we don't consider firefighter arsonists to be heroes; when we catch them, we charge them and put them on trial.

 

[Triumphant_Loser]

It's like firefighter arsonists.

... and usually, we don't consider firefighter arsonists to be heroes; when we catch them, we charge them and put them on trial.

Or kidnapping someone and then taking all the credit for finding them.

 

[1robin]

It is quit funny -


You folks claim healings as being from your God.


You folks also claim disease - no healing - is from God.


You try to cover both bases, - because in reality, - life is random - and normal human frailties could go either way - without any God in the mix.



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I have never heard any main stream Christians use this philosophy or explanation. My mom was a good Christian and died of cancer and never said either of these things.

 

[1robin]

It's kind of funny... in a very sad way. They think he is the one who inflicts them with diseases. They also think that healing is from God too. They thank God for curing them of the very diseases he gives them. It makes no sense. That's like thanking the doctor for giving you a vaccine to cure your flu, when he was the one who purposely gave you the flu to begin with, just so he could cure you.

It is funny that you find this caricature (of no Christian I ever met) having cancer funny. I have known many sick Christians and never heard one draw your conclusions except for stonewall Jackson (partially anyway).

 

[adi2d]

It is funny that you find this caricature (of no Christian I ever met) having cancer funny. I have known many sick Christians and never heard one draw your conclusions except for stonewall Jackson (partially anyway).

1robin meet call of the wild

Now you have met one. Read back a few posts

 

[Ingledsva]

I have never heard any main stream Christians use this philosophy or explanation. My mom was a good Christian and died of cancer and never said either of these things.

Call of the Wild claimed exactly that - as have other Christians here.



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[The Adept]

Yes your God is evil.
An all-powerful God is evil.

It is called Dystheism and Maltheism.

There are better gods btw.

 

[1robin]

1robin meet call of the wild

Now you have met one. Read back a few posts

Are you suggesting that Call of the wild has expressed every attribute that has been discussed lately?

Let me clarify what I stated to begin with.

1. Most Christians wonder if any major event is an act of God. Most determine that they cannot tell and act accordingly.
2. Few conclude that it is and act accordingly without knowing if they are right or not.
3. Even fewer do actually know and act accordingly.
4. So few that I have never met one act according to all the vagaries that have been illustrated about doctors and etc... that have been discussed lately.

I have been a Christian for 20 years and have maybe 3 events that I know God was active in and about a dozen he may have been. None of them involve any major sickness. I have known many dozens of Christians with major sicknesses not one has ever suggested they knew it was from God. Some wondered if that was the case but sought medical treatment because they had no way to be sure. Now Christian scientists may be a whole different ball of wax but I know very few of them.

Most sickness is the result of God's taking his hand off supervising nature at the fall. They randomly strike people in most cases. very few IMO are an specific act of God but I do know of several healings where God is the best by far explanation because no natural explanation exists.

Now if call of the wild is an exception they may post me at any time as I would be interested.

 

[1robin]

Yes your God is evil.
An all-powerful God is evil.

It is called Dystheism and Maltheism.

There are better gods btw.

What is this? and who is it aimed at? and you did not answer my question or address my claims.

 

[CG Didymus]

It is quit funny -


You folks claim healings as being from your God.


You folks also claim disease - no healing - is from God.


You try to cover both bases, - because in reality, - life is random - and normal human frailties could go either way - without any God in the mix.



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God causes/allows diseases and disasters. He can heal people or save them from disasters or stop the disaster. He can control who lives and who dies and when. Yet, for the greater good he let's the devil and very evil people keep existing? Almost, does it even matter if he's really there? He saves some and let's others die. Almost, like you say, it's kind of random. And, no matter what happens, they say "It must have been God's will"? But, on top of that, it's our fault anyway for choosing to have disobeyed him when Adam and Eve sinned? Strange.

 

[adi2d]

God causes/allows diseases and disasters. He can heal people or save them from disasters or stop the disaster. He can control who lives and who dies and when. Yet, for the greater good he let's the devil and very evil people keep existing? Almost, does it even matter if he's really there? He saves some and let's others die. Almost, like you say, it's kind of random. And, no matter what happens, they say "It must have been God's will"? But, on top of that, it's our fault anyway for choosing to have disobeyed him when Adam and Eve sinned? Strange.

Its not too surprising that no one really tries to defend this. If you think about it logically for five minutes it makes no more sense than believing that aborted babies go to heaven

 

[Maldini]

Why do people think freewill must be the ability to choose between good and evil? Why can't it be the ability to choose between different types of good?

To say free will is not possible without evil is ridiculous.

Free will doesn't exist. Have you ever asked yourself why different people have different tastes? It's because people are different, that's what makes them act differently. It's a combination of nature and nurture.

 

[JM2C]

Yes your God is evil.
An all-powerful God is evil.

It is called Dystheism and Maltheism.

There are better gods btw.

What do you call yourself, un-evil?

 

[Triumphant_Loser]

What is this? and who is it aimed at? and you did not answer my question or address my claims.

Well... The title of this thread is "Why does my God allow children to die? Is he evil?" I would assume it is aimed at the OP.

 

[Triumphant_Loser]

What do you call yourself, un-evil?

I've never burnt down 2 whole cities, sent bears to maul children, punished an entire race because 2 people ate a piece of fruit, turned anyone into salt, stricken anyone with leprosy, or cast anyone into a firey torture pit because they touch themselves... so... I'd say comparatively, yes.

 

[CG Didymus]

I've never burnt down 2 whole cities, sent bears to maul children, punished an entire race because 2 people ate a piece of fruit, turned anyone into salt, stricken anyone with leprosy, or cast anyone into a firey torture pit because they touch themselves... so... I'd say comparatively, yes.

He "allegedly" did those things. All we've got on him is circumstantial evidence. Without a smoking lightening bolt, we've got nothing.