Why does my God allow children to die? Is he evil?

[CG Didymus]

Day two: I watched my wife's grand daughter this morning. What is she up to? What schemes is that little brain devising? She's acting so innocent. Sitting there with her pacifier in her mouth. I know better. What lies, what evil does she have planned today?

Another problem, we're heading for Seattle today. God, I know, is in control of when Mt. Rainer blows up. Did any of you hear from God if today's the day? If so, should I try and warn the people in Tacoma and see if they'll repent? Or, just let the deserved wrath of God tear into them? Thanks for your speedy reply.

 

[Clear]

CG DIDYMUS : I can't help it. I just imagine you smiling as you are typing those sorts of posts.

However, on the more serious side : My professional medical opinion is to watch the baby for subtle signs of frank and profound evil. For example, if you ever observe a one-year old's head spinning around several times while spewing green pea soup-like vomit and an otherworldly base voice or screeching comes out of the mouth saying stuff like "I AM GOING TO EAT YOUR SOOOOUUUL", OR "I....AM....SATAAAAN", this is usually considered abnormal for this age. I recommend, first, have the child checked for strep and mono. If it's neither of those, then it's evil ethers taking over the toddler's body and the toddler will need to be put down before it kills and eats the parents. We watch for signs like this in the hospital nursery and check for them during each well child check. The medical clinician could also have blood work done for evil ether levels and have them do a sin titer and check for serum ceramic levels (to make sure it isn't a crock). We see stuff like this at my pediatric office all the time and there is simply nothing to do but to put the little tike down myself. It bothers the mothers, (though dad's are ok with it) but still, it must be done.

Also, watch for glowing red eyes that are associated with sudden leprecaun-like cackling while pulling the legs off the family dog, etc. Those actions are actually typical of teen-agers, but could indicate a problem at a younger age or if the child starts to fixate on such activities. Pulling the legs off of cats however, is perfectly normal and should not alarm a parent. We put all this information in our patient pamphlets. Interestingly,there are some studies looking at infants who, instead of saying "goo goo, gaa gaa" are saying "gog gog magog" instead. But these studies are incomplete since the scientists performing these studies have all gone missing.

Good luck surviving the visit with your grand-daughter. I fear for your safety.

Clear
σεσισιεισιω

CG, did you make out your will before making this trip?

 

[idav]

CG DIDYMUS : I can't help it. I just imagine you smiling as you are typing those sorts of posts.

However, on the more serious side : My professional medical opinion is to watch the baby for subtle signs of frank and profound evil. For example, if you ever observe a one-year old's head spinning around several times while spewing green pea soup-like vomit and an otherworldly base voice or screeching comes out of the mouth saying stuff like "I AM GOING TO EAT YOUR SOOOOUUUL", OR "I....AM....SATAAAAN", this usually considered abnormal for this age. I recommend, first, have the child checked for strep and mono. If it's neither of those, then it's evil ethers taking over the toddler's body and the toddler will need to be put down before it kills and eats the parents. We watch for signs like this in the hospital nursery and check for them during each well child check. The medical clinician could also have blood work done for evil ether levels, a sin titer and for serum ceramic levels (to make sure it isn't a crock). We see stuff like this at my pediatric office all the time and there is simply nothing to do but to put the little tike down myself. It bothers the mothers, (though dad's are ok with it) but still, it must be done.

Also, watch for glowing red eyes that are associated with sudden leprecaun-like cackling while pulling the legs off the family dog, etc. Those actions are actually typical of teen-agers, but could indicate a problem at a younger age or if the child starts to fixate on such activities. Pulling the legs off of cats however, is perfectly normal and should not alarm a parent. We put all this information in our patient pamphlets. Interestingly,there are some studies looking at infants who, instead of saying "goo goo, gaa gaa" are saying "gog gog and magog" instead. But these studies are incomplete since the scientists performing these studies have all gone missing.

Clear
σεσισιεισιω

Gee thanks for the heads up. Demon babies are scary.

 

[CG Didymus]

CG DIDYMUS : I can't help it. I just imagine you smiling as you are typing those sorts of posts.

My professional medical opinion is to watch the baby for subtle signs of frank and profound evil. For example, if you ever observe a one-year old's head spinning around several times while spewing green pea soup-like vomit and an otherworldly base voice or screeching comes out of the mouth saying stuff like "I AM GOING TO EAT YOUR SOOOOUUUL", OR "I....AM....SATAN", this usually considered abnormal for this age. I recommend, first, have the child checked for strep and mono. If it's neither of those, then it's evil ethers taking over the toddler's body and the toddler will need to be put down before it kills and eats the parents. We watch for signs like this in the hospital nursery and check for them during each well child check. The medical clinician could also have blood work done for evil ether levels, a sin titer and for serum ceramic levels (to make sure it isn't a crock). We see stuff like this at my pediatric office all the time and there is simply nothing to do but to put the little tike down myself. It bothers the mothers, (though dad's are ok with it) but still, it must be done.

Also, watch for glowing red eyes that are associated with sudden leprecaun-like cackling while pulling the legs off the family dog, etc. Those actions are actually typical of teen-agers, but could indicate a problem at a younger age or if the child starts to fixate on such activities. Pulling the legs off of cats however, is perfectly normal and should not alarm a parent. We put this information in our patient pamphlets. There are some studies looking at infant who, instead of saying "goo goo, gaa gaa"; they are saying "gog gog and magog" instead. But these studies are incomplete since the scientists have all gone missing.

Clear
σεσισιεισιω

No, she's good. She's got that sweet innocent look. You know the one, like they love you or something, but I know different. Thanks for telling me what to look out for, though. So far, so good. Any news about Mt. Rainer? I know I deserve to be covered with hot molten magma, but if I could avoid it, I'd like to.

 

[CG Didymus]

You said it yourself “Nobody can, or wants to, follow the laws perfectly” The same thing in the Law of Moses.

Jas 2:10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.
Paul said the same thing in Galatians 3:10. Where do you think James and Paul got these quotes from? The Law of Moses. Dt.27:26, Lev 26:14-16.

So God told them he would do all those blessings if they would follow his commands. And, in your reading of it, if they broke any of it, they would be guilty of all? So God could have promised them any thing and not have to worry about keeping his word, because he knew it was impossible for them to follow the commands. So, pretty much, God was telling them how he was going to curse them and make it their fault, because they didn't do what they said they would do. Hmmm? And you think that's fair?

What if I told you I'd give you a million dollars if you never blink your eyes. But, if you can't, not blink, then I'd gouge your eyes out. That would be stupid, yes there's that word again, for you to take that bet. I'm essentially telling you I'm going to gouge your eyes out, if you accept the terms. I'm not risking a thing. There is no way you can win. So if some fool took me up on it, then blinked, and I gouged his eyes out, what would you think of me? Wouldn't you think that I was evil hearted and cruel for taking advantage of some one not smart enough to know he couldn't win?

Well, God knew they could not keep all his rules. He promised them blessings, knowing he would not have to worry about doing them. And now, he was justified in cursing the people. People he, supposedly, made. But, he only gave them enough brains to be stupid enough not to listen and understand what he was really saying.

But, it gets better. God created an angel that he knew would turn bad. God then sends this evil angel to earth to deceive the people he created. Then, he curses them for getting deceived. And, you guys think this is how God really is? And this is not just some mythology?

Oh yeah, I know, it's true because he provided an acceptable alternative. Accept his son's death as payment in full... and obey his commandments. Although you can't follow his commands either. But that's okay, as long as you say you believe in him, and make at least a little effort at being good, you're justified. Now that's a much better deal. That's doable. Why didn't God make that deal with the Hebrews? Or, did he want to watch them suffer and fail?

 

[Ingledsva]

So God told them he would do all those blessings if they would follow his commands. And, in your reading of it, if they broke any of it, they would be guilty of all? So God could have promised them any thing and not have to worry about keeping his word, because he knew it was impossible for them to follow the commands. So, pretty much, God was telling them how he was going to curse them and make it their fault, because they didn't do what they said they would do. Hmmm? And you think that's fair?

What if I told you I'd give you a million dollars if you never blink your eyes. But, if you can't, not blink, then I'd gouge your eyes out. That would be stupid, yes there's that word again, for you to take that bet. I'm essentially telling you I'm going to gouge your eyes out, if you accept the terms. I'm not risking a thing. There is no way you can win. So if some fool took me up on it, then blinked, and I gouged his eyes out, what would you think of me? Wouldn't you think that I was evil hearted and cruel for taking advantage of some one not smart enough to know he couldn't win?

Well, God knew they could not keep all his rules. He promised them blessings, knowing he would not have to worry about doing them. And now, he was justified in cursing the people. People he, supposedly, made. But, he only gave them enough brains to be stupid enough not to listen and understand what he was really saying.

But, it gets better. God created an angel that he knew would turn bad. God then sends this evil angel to earth to deceive the people he created. Then, he curses them for getting deceived. And, you guys think this is how God really is? And this is not just some mythology?

Oh yeah, I know, it's true because he provided an acceptable alternative. Accept his son's death as payment in full... and obey his commandments. Although you can't follow his commands either. But that's okay, as long as you say you believe in him, and make at least a little effort at being good, you're justified. Now that's a much better deal. That's doable. Why didn't God make that deal with the Hebrews? Or, did he want to watch them suffer and fail?

Jesus -

I’m going to create man and women with intent to original sin.

Then when they do, I'm going to kick them out into a world of sin that I created.

Then I’m going to impregnate a woman with myself as her child so that I can be born.

Once alive, I will kill myself as a sacrifice to myself.

To save you from the sin I originally condemned you to.

Ta Dah!!!


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[CG Didymus]

Jesus -

I’m going to create man and women with intent to original sin.

Then I’m going to impregnate a woman with myself as her child so that I can be born.

Once alive, I will kill myself as a sacrifice to myself.

To save you from the sin I originally condemned you to.

Ta Dah!!!


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Well now that makes sense. Yeah, now I see what they're talking about. No mythology there. It makes all other religions look foolish. Thanks for your expository of the word.

 

[Ingledsva]

Well now that makes sense. Yeah, now I see what they're talking about. No mythology there. It makes all other religions look foolish. Thanks for your expository of the word.

You're very welcome.



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[thau]

So God told them he would do all those blessings if they would follow his commands. And, in your reading of it, if they broke any of it, they would be guilty of all? So God could have promised them any thing and not have to worry about keeping his word, because he knew it was impossible for them to follow the commands. So, pretty much, God was telling them how he was going to curse them and make it their fault, because they didn't do what they said they would do. Hmmm? And you think that's fair?

What if I told you I'd give you a million dollars if you never blink your eyes. But, if you can't, not blink, then I'd gouge your eyes out. That would be stupid, yes there's that word again, for you to take that bet. I'm essentially telling you I'm going to gouge your eyes out, if you accept the terms. I'm not risking a thing. There is no way you can win. So if some fool took me up on it, then blinked, and I gouged his eyes out, what would you think of me? Wouldn't you think that I was evil hearted and cruel for taking advantage of some one not smart enough to know he couldn't win?

Well, God knew they could not keep all his rules. He promised them blessings, knowing he would not have to worry about doing them. And now, he was justified in cursing the people. People he, supposedly, made. But, he only gave them enough brains to be stupid enough not to listen and understand what he was really saying.

But, it gets better. God created an angel that he knew would turn bad. God then sends this evil angel to earth to deceive the people he created. Then, he curses them for getting deceived. And, you guys think this is how God really is? And this is not just some mythology?

Oh yeah, I know, it's true because he provided an acceptable alternative. Accept his son's death as payment in full... and obey his commandments. Although you can't follow his commands either. But that's okay, as long as you say you believe in him, and make at least a little effort at being good, you're justified. Now that's a much better deal. That's doable. Why didn't God make that deal with the Hebrews? Or, did he want to watch them suffer and fail?

Be sure you got your theology correct before you relax with all your assumptions.

As it were, there have been untold number of divine manifestations validating this "mythological God" as you would have it. Once you realize that, it then tends for one to look deeper into what this God is telling us. It's really a gift, not a curse.

But if you want no part of the bargain, (i.e. the risk of outer darkness at the expense of no chance for eternal glory) then perhaps this God will turn you into a rock when you pass and spare you from chances of either fate?

 

[Ingledsva]

Be sure you got your theology correct before you relax with all your assumptions.

As it were, there have been untold number of divine manifestations validating this "mythological God" as you would have it. Once you realize that, it then tends for one to look deeper into what this God is telling us. It's really a gift, not a curse.

But if you want no part of the bargain, (i.e. the risk of outer darkness at the expense of no chance for eternal glory) then perhaps this God will turn you into a rock when you pass and spare you from chances of either fate?

What divine manifestations?


We are told there were miracles. No proof of them.


Crying statues or tears of blood can be easily faked, in fact there was a history channel show recently on tricks temples and the like used to bedazzle their followers.

Crying statues were one of the things they showed.- along with voices of God, and floating images of Gods, mysteriously opening temple doors - when they paid and the priest lit the Sacred Fire, etc.

Don't you think it just a little strange that now that we have science and investigative practices, and cameras everywhere, there are no more such manifestations?



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[JM2C]

So God told them he would do all those blessings if they would follow his commands. And, in your reading of it, if they broke any of it, they would be guilty of all? So God could have promised them any thing and not have to worry about keeping his word, because he knew it was impossible for them to follow the commands. So, pretty much, God was telling them how he was going to curse them and make it their fault, because they didn't do what they said they would do. Hmmm? And you think that's fair?

What if I told you I'd give you a million dollars if you never blink your eyes. But, if you can't, not blink, then I'd gouge your eyes out. That would be stupid, yes there's that word again, for you to take that bet. I'm essentially telling you I'm going to gouge your eyes out, if you accept the terms. I'm not risking a thing. There is no way you can win. So if some fool took me up on it, then blinked, and I gouged his eyes out, what would you think of me? Wouldn't you think that I was evil hearted and cruel for taking advantage of some one not smart enough to know he couldn't win?

What if God tells you that where ever you go, or walk, or set your foot today and tomorrow or for rest of your life will be yours, as in you will be the owner of the land where you set your feet on, and all you have to do is follow His command? Will you do it?

DT 11:24 “ Every place on which the sole of your foot treads shall be yours; your border will be from the wilderness to Lebanon, and from the river, the river Euphrates, as far as the western sea.
DT 11:25 “ No man will be able to stand before you; the LORD your God will lay the dread of you and the fear of you on all the land on which you set foot, as He has spoken to you.

Read and understand Deuteronomy chapter 11 and compare that to your "million dollars never blink" analogy and tell me which one is easier. Your analogy is more like tortures or you have to brutalize first before one gets that million dollars, while in Deuteronomy all they have to do is WALK IN and they could BLINK endlessly if they want to and possess the land, “a land flowing with milk and honey –Dt 11:9” or “not like the land of Egypt from which they came –Dt 11:10”.

DT 11:10 “For the land, into which you are entering to possess it, is not like the land of Egypt from which you came, where you used to sow your seed and water it with your foot like a vegetable garden.
DT 11:11 “But the land into which you are about to cross to possess it, a land of hills and valleys, drinks water from the rain of heaven,
DT 11:12 a land for which the LORD your God cares; the eyes of the LORD your God are always on it, from the beginning even to the end of the year.
DT 11:13 “It shall come about, if you listen obediently to my commandments which I am commanding you today, to love the LORD your God and to serve Him with all your heart and all your soul,
DT 11:14 that He will give the rain for your land in its season, the early and late rain, that you may gather in your grain and your new wine and your oil.
DT 11:15 “ He will give grass in your fields for your cattle, and you will eat and be satisfied.

Tell me which one is easier?

 

[CG Didymus]

What if God tells you that where ever you go, or walk, or set your foot today and tomorrow or for rest of your life will be yours, as in you will be the owner of the land where you set your feet on, and all you have to do is follow His command? Will you do it?

DT 11:24 “ Every place on which the sole of your foot treads shall be yours; your border will be from the wilderness to Lebanon, and from the river, the river Euphrates, as far as the western sea.
DT 11:25 “ No man will be able to stand before you; the LORD your God will lay the dread of you and the fear of you on all the land on which you set foot, as He has spoken to you.

Read and understand Deuteronomy chapter 11 and compare that to your "million dollars never blink" analogy and tell me which one is easier. Your analogy is more like tortures or you have to brutalize first before one gets that million dollars, while in Deuteronomy all they have to do is WALK IN and they could BLINK endlessly if they want to and possess the land, “a land flowing with milk and honey –Dt 11:9” or “not like the land of Egypt from which they came –Dt 11:10”.

DT 11:10 “For the land, into which you are entering to possess it, is not like the land of Egypt from which you came, where you used to sow your seed and water it with your foot like a vegetable garden.
DT 11:11 “But the land into which you are about to cross to possess it, a land of hills and valleys, drinks water from the rain of heaven,
DT 11:12 a land for which the LORD your God cares; the eyes of the LORD your God are always on it, from the beginning even to the end of the year.
DT 11:13 “It shall come about, if you listen obediently to my commandments which I am commanding you today, to love the LORD your God and to serve Him with all your heart and all your soul,
DT 11:14 that He will give the rain for your land in its season, the early and late rain, that you may gather in your grain and your new wine and your oil.
DT 11:15 “ He will give grass in your fields for your cattle, and you will eat and be satisfied.

Tell me which one is easier?

Do believe it is possible for any human being to follow the Law perfectly? What do you think happens if a person breaks the lest of the laws? Don't you believe they are guilty of all? In fact, aren't you saying all people are all ready guilty at birth? So what are you trying to prove? All I'm saying is that God made promises he knew he wouldn't have to keep. He knew the people would fail. He knew it was impossible for them to keep the Law. No matter how good they did, for how long, eventually they would stumble. Then, God could curse them all he wanted.

Now instead of blinking, what if I said that you could have anything you wanted, all you had to do is love God with all your heart and with all your soul. But, if you don't love God with all your heart and soul, you'll be cast into hell. Would you take that bet? Or, would you still be a fool to try it, because we can't love God with all our hearts. We are too evil, evil from birth. So tell me how we're we supposed to win this game?

Supposedly, after years of failure, he told us the truth. We can't do it. We need to accept his son to get into heaven. That's the only way to win? So he let centuries go by with people trying their best to follow his rules, and he stood by and watched them fail. And then tells them that they could never have kept the law? That he never really liked animal sacrifices? That's worse then my "blinking" test.

 

[CG Didymus]

Be sure you got your theology correct before you relax with all your assumptions.

As it were, there have been untold number of divine manifestations validating this "mythological God" as you would have it. Once you realize that, it then tends for one to look deeper into what this God is telling us. It's really a gift, not a curse.

But if you want no part of the bargain, (i.e. the risk of outer darkness at the expense of no chance for eternal glory) then perhaps this God will turn you into a rock when you pass and spare you from chances of either fate?

What is "correct" theology? It's not going to be the same as protestants, so why are they wrong and you right?

 

[thau]

What is "correct" theology? It's not going to be the same as protestants, so why are they wrong and you right?

It appears to me that you are of the contention no one can be right about God? We all must be gravely flawed for daring speak out?

My faith is not a blind faith. It is not based on the Word of God without a myriad of accompanying reasons, events or manifestations validating the claims, and it all making rational and merciful sense. So either Jesus Christ is the Son of God or his faith is worthless. Both cannot be wrong. And if the former is true then shall we apologize to the world for our dire allegiance?

And either Jesus is present in the Eucharist or the Catholics are in grave error. But if we are not, then the Protestants are on the outside looking in at the real Church Jesus established in Matthew 16.

 

[CG Didymus]

It appears to me that you are of the contention no one can be right about God? We all must be gravely flawed for daring speak out?

My faith is not a blind faith. It is not based on the Word of God without a myriad of accompanying reasons, events or manifestations validating the claims, and it all making rational and merciful sense. So either Jesus Christ is the Son of God or his faith is worthless. Both cannot be wrong. And if the former is true then shall we apologize to the world for our dire allegiance?

And either Jesus is present in the Eucharist or the Catholics are in grave error. But if we are not, then the Protestants are on the outside looking in at the real Church Jesus established in Matthew 16.

Are Jews correct? Are Muslims? Are Buddhists or Hindus? Are Protestants?

No matter what you think, they all believe they are right. And, from their point of view, can prove it. Many of them think you are wrong and will use the Bible to prove it. Sorry, not that I believe everything Protestants do, but I believe they are more right than Catholics on being more inline with NT Christianity. But, I believe most forms of Christianity are way out of line with Judaism.

So you tell me how what you believe fits into what the Hebrew Scriptures teach and then how it fits in with the NT. I'll probably disagree, but I'm not saying you aren't right or that what you believe doesn't work and make perfect sense to you. I'm just saying I don't believe it and I'll give you my reasons why I don't. Fair enough?

 

[thau]

Are Jews correct? Are Muslims? Are Buddhists or Hindus? Are Protestants?

No matter what you think, they all believe they are right. And, from their point of view, can prove it. Many of them think you are wrong and will use the Bible to prove it. Sorry, not that I believe everything Protestants do, but I believe they are more right than Catholics on being more inline with NT Christianity. But, I believe most forms of Christianity are way out of line with Judaism.

So you tell me how what you believe fits into what the Hebrew Scriptures teach and then how it fits in with the NT. I'll probably disagree, but I'm not saying you aren't right or that what you believe doesn't work and make perfect sense to you. I'm just saying I don't believe it and I'll give you my reasons why I don't. Fair enough?

Very fair.

I recall an interview with Pope Benedict XVI when he was still Cardinal Ratzinger, an interviewer asked him (paphrasing) --- “What makes your God or your religion the truth and all others to be in error.” He responded --- “There are thousands of books and thousands of testimonies of saints witnessing to the truth, and now you expect me to give you a satisfactory answer in a paragraph or two of words?”

Or as St. Thomas More once said: “’Tis a shorter thing and sooner done to write heresies than to answer them.”

Worth noting, the Catholic Church in its councils and teachings makes it clear that salvation is reserved or attainable by believers or any faith, and unbelievers alike. So I do not think it fair for one to assume that because Catholicism claims the most true teaching on God for itself, it condemns no man for rejecting it or not knowing of it.

As far as evidence for the Catholic faith, it is far too lengthy for me to do it justice. I will present pieces in a top post here and there perhaps? But I have done so in the past (with tepid response), so if the reader is looking for something new, then their greater demands may not be to their benefit. Jesus said (paraphrase) some will become obstinate or uncaring causing a a darkening of the intellect and a weakening of the will. >>> Matthew 12:39 “An evil age is eager for a sign, but no sign will be given it except that of Jonah.” (an obvious reference to his three days inthe tomb, jonah’s three days in the whale)

 

[JM2C]

Well, God knew they could not keep all his rules. He promised them blessings, knowing he would not have to worry about doing them. And now, he was justified in cursing the people. People he, supposedly, made.

But, he only gave them enough brains to be stupid enough not to listen and understand what he was really saying.

But, it gets better. God created an angel that he knew would turn bad. God then sends this evil angel to earth to deceive the people he created. Then, he curses them for getting deceived. And, you guys think this is how God really is? And this is not just some mythology?

Oh yeah, I know, it's true because he provided an acceptable alternative.

Your analysis are after the facts, or the Monday morning quarterback analysis, you know the “I told you so”. You know the Monday morning quarterbacks never lose a game because they are so perfect of what they do, and that is, analyze after the facts.

What you should understand is why no one could keep God’s commandments instead of conjecturing or making analogical extrapolation, or MMQing. Was it because men were born sinners, you know the “lower natures”? Except of course for the sinless Clear.

We all need to transcend our lower natures and strive to become better people.

Can you imagine Adam and Eve on how pristine their thinking was before they sinned against God? They were not like the Israelites that came out of Egypt with their gods and all those deities and yet they, Adam and Eve, [sinless, perfect ‘cause they were created “in the image of God” –Gen 1:26] and yet they sinned against God.

IOW, Adam and Even knew no other gods but the God who created them and yet they sinned against Him, and you think those Israelites and us, non-Israelites or Gentiles, could do better than Adam and Eve? Except of course for the sinless Clear.

It’s the human sinful nature, the “LOWER NATURES”, that we should see, and not what your criticism of God, you know the, that God did this so He can do that analysis. What we read in the O.T. were all after the facts. Meaning: you cannot change it anymore nor do a Monday morning quarterback analysis anymore but learn from it like what Paul said in,
1Co 10:11 These things happened to them/Israelites as examples and were written down as warnings for us/Christians, on whom the fulfillment of the ages has come.

Do you really think that human are capable to overcome this “lower natures” to “become better people”?

The perfect and sinless Adam and Eve who knew no evil were overcome by evil and we, sinners by nature –Eph 2:3, except for the sinless Clear of course, do you think we can overcome this “lower natures” with “evil nature –Eph 2:3”, or what good can come out of “evil nature –Eph 2:3” to overcome evil itself? Nothing!

Mt 12:26 If Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then can his kingdom stand?

2Co 4:4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

Only God, you know the ONE you always criticized, He can overcome evil.

1Jn 4:4 You, dear children/Christians, are from God and have overcome them/antichrist, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world.

 

[CG Didymus]

Worth noting, the Catholic Church in its councils and teachings makes it clear that salvation is reserved or attainable by believers or any faith, and unbelievers alike. So I do not think it fair for one to assume that because Catholicism claims the most true teaching on God for itself, it condemns no man for rejecting it or not knowing of it.

That's interesting. Tell me more. How do Catholic Christians feel about those that are good people from other religions, because the typical answer from an evangelical protestant is that none are good. If they haven't accepted Jesus into their heart, they will go to hell.

I assumed that was true when first taught about the Bible. I was told only a few selected verses that made everything sound exactly like those christians wanted me to believe, which included that Catholics were wrong. I was told, Catholics follow "traditions of men" and Jews follow "traditions of men". Then I listened to some Jewish friends that told me their interpretation.

Pertinent to this thread, Jews say we are born with a clean slate. Jews didn't have the same beliefs about the afterlife, hell, the satan, and about who and what their Messiah would be and what he'd accomplish. All based on the Bible and using it more in context than the christians. So, for that reason, I don't trust most interpretations that Christians have. But, I'll listen and if I feel there's reason to question what they say, I will. But, so far, I like what you're saying.

 

[JM2C]

And either Jesus is present in the Eucharist or the Catholics are in grave error. But if we are not, then the Protestants are on the outside looking in at the real Church Jesus established in Matthew 16.

Please explain Matthew 16

 

[CG Didymus]

Your analysis are after the facts, or the Monday morning quarterback analysis, you know the “I told you so”. You know the Monday morning quarterbacks never lose a game because they are so perfect of what they do, and that is, analyze after the facts.

What in the Bible was not written after the fact? Especially prophesies about Jesus?