Why does the US Support Israel?

[Nakosis]

Interesting, but an hour long.
It includes a clip of Biden as a senator stating that if Israel didn't exist, that the US would have to invent it.

Why? Because of our economy. Israel is necessary to have some critical control over oil in the region and trade is the basic justification given.
Claiming that Israel is a tool of the US. Previously the US had relations with Iran and Saudi Arabia. After the Iranian revolution, the US saw the support of Israel key to protecting its interests in the middle east.

Do you agree with this and does it justify the current situation.

 

[Estro Felino]

The Mediterranean area is enormous and there are so many large states like Turkey or Algeria.
We need to promote peace among all these nations which are so diverse.

And all people of the Mediterranean, whether they speak Spanish, or Arabic or Turkish desire peace and not war. Peace favors prosperity and freedom.

We all expect the US and the NATO to promote peace in this area of the world...and if some hideous and godless warmongers want to use Israelis or Arabs or Turks as cannon fodder to sow hatred and conflicts... this means that the peace we can achieve (and people here have understood it is achievable) is hated by devilish warmongers.

 

[Nakosis]

The Mediterranean area is enormous and there are so many large states like Turkey or Algeria.
We need to promote peace among all these nations which are so diverse.

And all people of the Mediterranean, whether they speak Spanish, or Arabic or Turkish desire peace and not war. Peace favors prosperity and freedom.

We all expect the US and the NATO to promote peace in this area of the world...and if some hideous and godless warmongers want to use Israelis or Arabs or Turks as cannon fodder to sow hatred and conflicts... this means that the peace we can achieve (and people here have understood is achievable) is hated by devilish warmongers who obey their master, Lucifer.

It shows Netanyahu as an American Israeli supporting American interests. Not so much the interest of the people of Israel.
The US government doesn't want peace in the Middle East. They want justification to go to war with Iran.

The current situation leading to a response from Iran which will justify military action from the US. Maybe the people want peace, the US government wants control over world energy supplies.

 

[Estro Felino]

Interesting, but an hour long.
It includes a clip of Biden as a senator stating that if Israel didn't exist, that the US would have to invent it.

Why? Because of our economy. Israel is necessary to have some critical control over oil in the region and trade is the basic justification given.
Claiming that Israel is a tool of the US. Previously the US had relations with Iran and Saudi Arabia. After the Iranian revolution, the US saw the support of Israel key to protecting its interests in the middle east.

Do you agree with this and does it justify the current situation.

What's the price?
Israel protects the US interests in this area of the world...at what cost?
At the cost of war?

That guy from Kenya whose name I keep forgetting received a Nobel Prize for Peace. However ...a peaceful Mediterranean was turned into a war area in turmoil.
Utterly unacceptable.

 

[metis]

To the question asked in the title, because we share most of the values we both feel are important to us.

 

[Nakosis]

What's the price?
Israel protects the US interests in this area of the world...at what cost?
At the cost of war?

That guy from Kenya whose name I keep forgetting received a Nobel Prize for Peace. However ...a peaceful Mediterranean was turned into a war area in turmoil.
Utterly unacceptable.

That seems to be the point. All in an effort to make it acceptable.
"Hey! We're just defending Israel".

 

[Nakosis]

To the question asked in the title, because we share most of the values we both feel are important to us.

IMO, most people share these same values.
The destruction of Gaza and Israeli control of the West Bank, maybe not so much.

 

[metis]

IMO, most people share these same values.
The destruction of Gaza and Israeli control of the West Bank, maybe not so much.

What about the destruction of Israel? the Holocaust? etc.?

 

[Estro Felino]

That seems to be the point. All in an effort to make it acceptable.
"Hey! We're just defending Israel".

But maybe if that Deep State really cared about Israeli citizens, they would find a compromise with the countries surrounding Israel, so their safety is preserved.
The truth is that they don't give a beep about them.

 

[Nakosis]

What about the destruction of Israel? the Holocaust? etc.?

The point here is not to attack Israel.
According to the video, other than religious Jews, the people of Israel do not necessarily support the actions of their current government.
Netanyahu's current direction is to support American interests rather than the interests of peace in the Middle East.

Isn't seeking peace in the Middle East the way to preserve Israel? Do you think the current actions of the Israeli government is in the support of peace?

 

[Nakosis]

But maybe if that Deep State really cared about Israeli citizens, they would find a compromise with the countries surrounding Israel, so their safety is preserved.
The truth is that they don't give a beep about them.

The video says the point is to exhaust the resources of Israel and Ukraine to support America's control of energy resources. I also saw that when question arise in US congress about how we justify support of Israel it is quickly shutdown. Perhaps because the answer is not publicly palatable.

That is why we are willing to send billions. It's only money and we can always print more.

 

[metis]

Netanyahu's current direction is to support American interests rather than the interests of peace in the Middle East.

Nonsense.

BTW, I cannot stand Netanyahu and his Likud coalition.

Isn't seeking peace in the Middle East the way to preserve Israel? Do you think the current actions of the Israeli government is in the support of peace?

You talk about peace, and yet you blame Israel??? So, what Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah, the Houthis, Syrian and Iraqi Shi'i elements have repeatedly been doing with the rockets and missiles, are for peace? You gotta be kidding!!!

 

[Nakosis]

Nonsense.

BTW, I cannot stand Netanyahu and his Likud coalition.

Do you think his current actions are in the best interests of Israel?

You talk about peace, and yet you blame Israel??? So, what Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah, the Houthis, Syrian and Iraqi Shi'i elements have repeatedly been doing with the rockets and missiles, are for peace? You gotta be kidding!!!

Where did I blame Israel?
You must be talking about someone else.

 

[metis]

Isn't seeking peace in the Middle East the way to preserve Israel? Do you think the current actions of the Israeli government is in the support of peace?

One side cannot create peace in a conflict.

Do you think his current actions are in the best interests of Israel?

It's the only options I can see at this time as Iran and its proxies keep attacking and attacking and attacking.... We well know what they're doing and why, so there really is no great mystery about that.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

What about the destruction of Israel? the Holocaust? etc.?

For a lot of Evangelicals, the destruction of Israel is the ultimate goal behind their current "support" of Israel.

Their belief is that Jewish possession of all of the "traditional" territory of Israel is a necessary condition to bring about Armageddon and the Second Coming, during which everyone who hasn't accepted Christ - including practicing Jews - will be purged from the Earth or banished to Hell, depending on their specific flavour of eschatology.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/05/14/half-of-evangelicals-support-israel-because-they-believe-it-is-important-for-fulfilling-end-times-prophecy/

 

[Godobeyer]

To the question asked in the title, because we share most of the values we both feel are important to us.

I doubt in some important levels,
. israel share it's lobby in USA, and USA not.
. Americans probably don't accept share their taxes.
. America nowday didn't have value of bomb hostage and civilian intentionally,for example Iran in USA, hostages crise.

. America don't occupation Mexico, or have settlers in Mexico, humiliation Mexicans.

 

[metis]

I doubt in some important levels,
. israel share it's lobby in USA, and USA not.
. Americans probably don't accept share their taxes.
. America nowday didn't have value of bomb hostage and civilian intentionally,for example Iran in USA, hostages crise.

. America don't occupation Mexico, or have settlers in Mexico, humiliation Mexicans.

You simply don't know what you're talking about which is why I usually ignore your posts.

 

[MayPeaceBeUpOnYou]

Interesting, but an hour long.
It includes a clip of Biden as a senator stating that if Israel didn't exist, that the US would have to invent it.

Why? Because of our economy. Israel is necessary to have some critical control over oil in the region and trade is the basic justification given.
Claiming that Israel is a tool of the US. Previously the US had relations with Iran and Saudi Arabia. After the Iranian revolution, the US saw the support of Israel key to protecting its interests in the middle east.

Do you agree with this and does it justify the current situation.

To me there is no justification for this situation. I mean the amount of suffering that happened the last year is ridiculous. Let alone the occupation and the apartheid regime the Palestinians are facing daily before that.

I think it’s abundant clear that US support Israel unconditionally and Israel lobbyists In the US are making sure it stays that way. I mean the amount of times israel crossed the ‘red line’ is proof of that. And if I am correct the US even kept secret the fact that Israel was guilty of stopping aid getting into Gaza.

Like history have shown us, the Middle East is just a playground for the US. If it wasn’t because stopping the Russian to gaining power, if it wasn’t oil, if it wasn’t the war against terror then it is as we see now the control of the canal with Yemen.

Like always the Muslims who oppose US or Israel are labeled ‘bad guys ‘ and the west with Israel are the good guys. And then people wonder why there is so much hatred against the US government.

A simple math of cause and effect and its sad leaders don’t learn from history. It’s all about greed and power.

 

[Godobeyer]

You simply don't know what you're talking about which is why I usually ignore your posts.

I know what i talking about.
I disagree that Israel and USA share principal same values.

I just listed important values that USA and Israel don't match.

USA values is about freedom and humanity.
The Israel lobby influence make it evil and give it bad reputation.
Edited to add

Israel is apartheid racist state, how the hell you compare it to USA.

Bidem said (created) Israel to protect our interests in region, if there is no Israel . We will invent Israel.

Actually don't know who used the other.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Interesting, but an hour long.
It includes a clip of Biden as a senator stating that if Israel didn't exist, that the US would have to invent it.

Why? Because of our economy. Israel is necessary to have some critical control over oil in the region and trade is the basic justification given.
Claiming that Israel is a tool of the US. Previously the US had relations with Iran and Saudi Arabia. After the Iranian revolution, the US saw the support of Israel key to protecting its interests in the middle east.

Do you agree with this and does it justify the current situation.

Israel is a key strategic ally not to mention a key religious ally as well. It's not surprising that US support follows that foundation.

How the U.S. Gains from Israel Alliance

Washington's partnership with Israel has helped the United States maintain its global edge without compromising its interests in the Arab and Muslim worlds.

www.washingtoninstitute.org

You could say they are close friends with mutual benefits as others had put it, and has contributed to overall stability between conflicts.