Apart from Israel, Islamists have largely taken over the entire ME, and it's all about greed and power.
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Why does the US Support Israel?
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Samael_Khan
Qigong / Yang Style Taijiquan / 7 Star Mantis
Israel is just one of the USA's outposts.
I believe it's the inverse . USA which on the service of Israel,through AIPAC .
This is part of it, but missing factor because Satan makes people fear discussing, is the grand plan of the freemasons in all this.
Islamists whom extactly ?
How about zionists taken over all the West, which you afraid to critize Israel or deny holocaust you will pay fee .
In West you could deny WW2 it self, but can't deny holocaust .
I don't deny holocaust , I just show you how the zionists are powerful.
Most of the ME is now ruled by various political-Islam groups. Those are what we mean when we say Islamists. Political Islam.
The Zionest have taken over the West ???? You understand I'm sure that there are literally A THOUSAND TIMES as many Muslims as there are Jews??? For every Jew alive, there are A THOUSAND Muslims. And you think the Jews have taken over the West??? hahaha
anotherneil
Well-Known Member
It's a loaded question (the title of this thread) - the US does not support Israel.
Only religious zealots and a very small cabal of powerful people who don't hold or care about the interests of the American people support Israel; they fabricate a narrative about the American people through their dominance of the mainstream media to make the rest of the world believe that the American people support Israel.
I suspect they do the same in European countries - make it seem like they support Israel.
If you want to see a good example of spin and distortion, misinformation and disinformation, defamation of character - the works, just look at what the mainstream media does to make it look like the US supports Israel & if anyone doesn't, they label them terrorists, bigots, self-hating Jews, etc.
Only religious zealots and a very small cabal of powerful people who don't hold or care about the interests of the American people support Israel; they fabricate a narrative about the American people through their dominance of the mainstream media to make the rest of the world believe that the American people support Israel.
I suspect they do the same in European countries - make it seem like they support Israel.
If you want to see a good example of spin and distortion, misinformation and disinformation, defamation of character - the works, just look at what the mainstream media does to make it look like the US supports Israel & if anyone doesn't, they label them terrorists, bigots, self-hating Jews, etc.
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anotherneil
Well-Known Member
I'll also add that the US isn't part of Israel, and Israel isn't part of the US; the reason I mention this is because that small cabal of powerful people who control the mainstream media sometimes like to make it out to seem like the US & Israel are somehow part of each other, like they do with the monarch from London; they always use phrases like "the king" or "the queen" without specifying which monarchist country they're referring to, here in the US). The US and Israel are not part of each other, and never were; those in Israel who currently control it came from Europe, and the US isn't part of Europe.
BrokenBread
Member
Why are the United States and Israel the two countries on top of their list that radical Islam wamts to see destroyed ?
Answer that question and you have answered the first question as well.
It's a twofer !
Oct 17, 2023 ... Iran today calls America "great Satan", Israel "little Satan": Steve Daines · Comments160.
Answer that question and you have answered the first question as well.
It's a twofer !
Iran today calls America "great Satan", Israel "little Satan" - YouTube
Oct 17, 2023 ... Iran today calls America "great Satan", Israel "little Satan": Steve Daines · Comments160.
anotherneil
Well-Known Member
I generally agree with it; what they discuss makes sense There's one issue I have with one of the premises, though, and that's that the US is the one in control or the mastermind. I don't think it's the US itself. Let's go back to WW1 - the US people were opposed to getting involved in it; why would they? It's a foreign overseas place.
The US people got tricked into allowing the US to get involved in that European war because of the Lusitania war bait & look at what country it was heading to - England (a country in Europe). This was not long after Roosevelt's rapprochement with the British Empire, the most traitorous political act by a POTUS against the American people, that I know of.
BTW I think it's interesting that it was another Roosevelt (2.0) who was at the helm of the US for WW2.
This OP documentary mentioned that Russia was the first to recognize Israel in the UN when it was formed because Stalin thought it was going to have influence over Israel, but things didn't work out that way for them.
I think Russia was probably tricked into recognizing Israel in the same way that the US was tricked into getting into WW1.
Look at what Russia was, a monarchy that came down just like France; I think this time when the Russian monarchy was taken down, there were those who didn't want it to become a republic with freedom the way France did, so maybe they arranged for it to be like a prison decorated with a nice iron curtain.
When it comes to the British Empire moving out of Mandatory Palestine, I don't think it really was a situation of them throwing their hands in the air and leaving as if to say "I can't control this place" or whatever the ruse is; they probably did so with the intent and plan of having the US take over that part of Western Asia, for Europe's interests.
European monarchs don't want a bunch of republics taking over their stuff, but they don't mind having control over the US for their interests, I guess.
Examples?
Does muslims don't have right to have a political part?
Breaking news?
Don't you know that USA control by zionists?
Does AIPAC represent all. Americans?
Tell how much AIPAC is powerful.
They just spend about 100 million dollars. To gain more than 30 billion dollars of weapons... Etc.
What a business!!!
Iran always called USA big devil.
Not new.
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Iran had their reasons, USA always sanctions Iran.
Is not Freedom of speech?
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BrokenBread
Member
This "we" isn't all inclusive. Israel, as "The Jewish State"
for "God's Chosen People" is feted by Christians, especially
the more fundamentalist ones. Many of us don't share
Israel's values (as exhibited by its behavior).
Shared values....were it not for Israel being The Jewish State,
USA would typically disapprove of apartheid, torture, murder,
oppression, & genocide. USA's fundamental values appear
readily abandoned ad hoc.
USA's interest in the Middle East is primarily about supporting
& protecting Israel. Without that, USA wouldn't care at all
about Muslims fighting & killing each other. Oil has lessened
as a concern, after USA began producing so much domestically,
& having ready supplies from both north & south of the border.
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BrokenBread
Member
So it is primarily a spiritual hate at it's core
Thus the spiritual monikers of " Great Satan" & "Little Satan"
Of course they do.
Some Muslims want to spread Sharia. Those Muslims are called Islamists. So Hamas for example are BOTH terrorists AND Islamists.
Nah. That's too simple.
But hate can arise from tribalism.
And from desire for property belonging to others.
And from scripture telling people they're superior to others.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Looks to me like Uncle Sam picked up the uncritical support for Zionism from England.
But stealing land, ethno-nationalism and bombing Muslims is something Uncle Sam and Zionists do share in common.