Why don’t you believe in God?

[Jimmy]

I wager it takes a god to know a god. Not second hand pronouncements made on alleged non existent figures of divinity that has no bearing or influence whatsoever on the world stage that only lives inside a person's head.

If a person cannot prove it through tactile means through science, then it's worthless and easily dismissed.

I find belief to be absoultly underwhelming and useless so I take things on a strict provisional basis now.

That’s one way to look at it

 

[Jimmy]

I wager it takes a god to know a god. Not second hand pronouncements made on alleged non existent figures of divinity that has no bearing or influence whatsoever on the world stage that only lives inside a person's head.

If a person cannot prove it through tactile means through science, then it's worthless and easily dismissed.

I find belief to be absoultly underwhelming and useless so I take things on a strict provisional basis now.

I think the average Joe would be able to detect a God. Maybe even more so than another God.

 

[Jimmy]

Is there anything that science can fully explain?
Every new understanding that's discovered
introduces new questions, with answers that
will potentially replace previous understandings.
If anything can be fully explained, leaving no
surprises to await us, that would be disappointing.
Fortunately, exploration & detection provide
new info to upset old understandings.

You don’t like the word explain do you? To broad for ya?

 

[Quester]

This particular subject, that deals with the existence of GOD, should be handled like any other subject ... via HARD DATA. But, it isn't, I explained above the historical details that to this day NO ONE has been able to answer. It's like Christianity and Jesus. Actually, it's the same error. The Zoroastrian Saoshyant was rewritten as the Hebrew messiah, the Zoroastrian end time story was rewritten as the Hebrew version, and it just kept on going. Actually this "end times" story has a history that's seemingly traceable back thousands of years before writing began. I don't get into it because of the same rhetoric posted by people, and since writing didn't exist, it's not possible to prove in the way it should be proven.

 

[ChristineM]

You

You can only go back-and-forth for so long and besides your first comment didn’t really make much sense to me.

I stopped going back and forth when i said there is no point in continuing.
My first post was fairly straightforward

 

[Jimmy]

Is there anything that science can fully explain?
Every new understanding that's discovered
introduces new questions, with answers that
will potentially replace previous understandings.
If anything can be fully explained, leaving no
surprises to await us, that would be disappointing.
Fortunately, exploration & detection provide
new info to upset old understandings.

Fully explain? Sure why not. I’ll accept the scientific explanation about how and why plants give off oxygen.

 

[Jimmy]

I stopped going back and forth when i said there is no point in continuing.
My first post was fairly straightforward

And here we are

 

[ChristineM]

And here we are

Goodnight

 

[Jimmy]

Goodnight

Ni ni

 

[LuisDantas]

Is it because of your inability to believe in anything that can’t be explained by science?

No. I just learned of god-concepts and realized that believing in their literal existence is very unadvisable.

 

[Jimmy]

No. I just learned of god-concepts and realized that believing in their literal existence is very unadvisable.

Oh because a lot of the bad in the world can be attributed to God? Like religious wars etc?

 

[LuisDantas]

No, not to god. To god beliefs.

 

[Jimmy]

No, not to god. To god beliefs.

Thank you very much for that clarification

 

[Jimmy]

No, it is more the observation that , beliefs that seemed comforting such as the tooth fairy and the Easter bunny turned out to jest be stories and only those with evidence ultimately held up.

So you need evidence to believe something?

 

[Jimmy]

For me it is not that I don't believe in God, it is that I lack a belief in God.

Why?
Because I don't trust what you believe and if I had a belief, I wouldn't trust it either.

So why do you lack a leaf in God?. is it because you need evidence?

 

[Jimmy]

No one is obligated to believe anything. I was suspicious of all the God claims growing up and I refused to believe just because others did. Thus far there’s no convincing evidence for any of the thousands of gods in human history.

Did you ever explore your own idea of God Before or after you refused what others did?

 

[Jimmy]

Because I didn't need the belief in God to cope.

Did the god you found make you feel like you needed it to cope?

 

[Jimmy]

I explained that they're not the same, & even gave you an example.
Are you here to bicker, or to discuss & understand the views of others?
I ask because your OP seemed rather contentious, but I gave the benefit of doubt.

I truly thank you for giving me the benefit of the doubt

 

[Jimmy]

No, because science cannot explain a lot of natural phenomena, yet I still trust the methodology it uses to explain what it does explain. I don't believe in God for the same reason that you don't believe in other mythological beings such as leprechauns. You don't believe in leprechauns do you? If not, why not? What would convince you of their existence?

So What you’re saying is you need evidence?

 

[osgart]

Is it because of your inability to believe in anything that can’t be explained by science?

There's no benevolent power at work on planet Earth. There exists a brutal, survival, and power game amongst humans. The universe is hostile and indifferent to life on Earth. If humanity is to survive then power needs be given to the trustworthy and deserving instead of merely using up such people as pawns.

If God is charitable and benevolent then no such God exists for the aforementioned reasons. If any other God would exist without charity and benevolence then that God is merely worthless.

The universe behaves as there were no transcendent force. Existence couldn't care less about transcendence. Life is a scavenger and beggar in the universe.

Nothing on Earth indicates that life has an ideal existence somewhere out there. Honest working humans are what produce the quality of life that so many people enjoy, yet they themselves receive little reward. If there were a God we would see justice operating in the world.