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It is an irrefutable fact: if a person does not fear God, when one of his interests is at stake, he is more likely to violate any moral principle (if any exists) than a person who fears God to avoid personal damage.
The materialist principle of survival of the fittest is based on achieving the end regardless of the consequences. Evidently this is the philosophy that most of the world's wealthy people have adopted, since they do not care about the damage they do to their workers or the planet, if their profits increase.
Offended with the obvious truth?
Yup, your other variation on "I'm ignoring you", I'm going away so I don't have to deal with you. LOLHave a great day
The No True Scotsman seems rather popular today
Interesting how someone with so many on ignore is completely unable to actually ignore them.Yup, your other variation on "I'm ignoring you", I'm going away so I don't have to deal with you. LOL
When it is all you have, flaunt it.Yes, it seems to be a rather popular excuse.
" sincerity of the (Christianity) people "I'm not in a position to comment on how things are these days, since I only encounter the odd rare example at a funeral ─ it's been a while since I attended a wedding.
But I had no reason to doubt the sincerity of the people active in the church in my childhood. As I mentioned, except for my burst of confirmation enthusiasm, I mainly remember my disconnection.
The brain is where human thought originates but scientists are still in the dark about how it works. The brain is only the physical organ in our head that supports the functions of the mind. The mind gives us the ability to think, feel, and engage in physical activity. How the human mind works is largely unknown by scientists.This has nothing to do with what some arbitrary religious doctrine proclaims to be the truth. There is ample reason to believe that every mental activity we know of corresponds to physical brain activity. Therefore, it is reasonable to conclude that brain activity causes those activities, because it waxes and wanes according to changes in brain activity.
I am not saying I believe that there are disembodied spirits that interact with physical reality and that we can detect them from physical activity, I don't believe that we can.If there were disembodied spirits that interacted with physical reality, then we should be able to detect them from physical activity, but we simply don't. In this case, lack of evidence really does look like evidence of lack.
Regarding the alleged miracles in the Bible those are not verifiable evidence because they cannot be verified. Even if the miracles happened they were only evidence to the few people who witnessed them. Everyone else had to believe they happened. on faith.Some concrete verifiable evidence of interaction between a disembodied spirit like a god (or any disembodied spirit) and physical events. Given the attributes and powers attributable to the Abrahamic God, it would be trivial for God to provide evidence. After all, Abrahamic-inspired holy scripture is full of reports of such evidence, but why would we not observe similar miraculous events in modern times?
Science was never a subject I studied, I studied geography and psychology. Physics is fascinating but I don't think I have a knack for it.I think that physicists and other scientists do a much better job of explaining its workings than laypersons like us. Nobody really expects you to know more, or even as much as, scientists about how the universe works.
No, I am not making an ad populum argument because I am not saying that "God exists" is true because many or most people believe that God exists.I have put in boldface the point at which you stop denying ad populum arguments and suddenly declare them logically valid. You claim you are not making an ad populum argument. Then you say you are trying to be "logical". Then you say that what most people believe should be trusted because it makes "logical sense". Despite your denial, you are actually making an ad populum argument.
What I am saying is that there is no verifiable evidence (proof) that God exists. I do not know whether or not there 'could be' verifiable evidence, only God knows that.Any claim that something exists is an existential claim, so the claim that God exists is an existential claim. Unless I misunderstand you, you admit that there can be no verifiable evidence that God exists. If that is the case, then I see no reason to believe that God exists.
All the atheists I have ever conversed with have told me that need to be convinced by evidence.Right, but so what? Not everyone wants to be convinced by the evidence, and people are prone to wishful thinking.
Now that you have gotten my curiosity up you are not going to tell me where you have looked?When I publish my 25-tome autobiography, I will send you a complimentary copy of the volume that details all of the places I've looked. Meanwhile, you should just take everything I say as gospel truth. Seriously, though, that kind of question can't be answered in any practical way.
I have believed that for a long time but more recently I have has some paranormal experiences that corroborated by beliefs.Fair enough. That's pretty much what I thought you believed. I have no experiences to corroborate such claims, so I remain a skeptic.
But not everyone sees it that way.God does no such things. The OT is pure unadulterated anthropomorphism.
We can agree, I suspect, that Paul was something of a dingbat." sincerity of the (Christianity) people "
Sincerity of the Christianity people is and or could be there, depends, but in spite of that, as I understand, they have been mislead by Saul of Tarsus aka Paul, please, right?
Regards
Who told you this, by the way?" sincerity of the (Christianity) people "
Sincerity of the Christianity people is and or could be there, depends, but in spite of that, as I understand, they have been mislead by Saul of Tarsus aka Paul, please, right?
Regards
Don't I know it.But not everyone sees it that way.
That is exactly what I am saying. Why would Christians have to fear God when they are saved and forgiven by the cross sacrifice?
Christians do not live under the Law of God, Paul did away with that.
Many do fear god. Why, i have no idea except perhaps that's the way they've been indoctrinated
Obviously Christians are not following the laws of God or teaching their children to.
I never did that
Sounds a bit like the pot calling the kettle black with no indoctrination necessary.
Not your laws anyway
Point of view
I follow the hard evidence, not the made up stuff
Yes, many Christians do fear God, and that is because of what the Bible says about God.Many do fear god. Why, i have no idea except perhaps that's the way they've been indoctrinated
Yes, many Christians do fear God
In the a Baha'i prayer it says that God is more of a friend to us than we are to ourselves. I'll second that.
Since my husband died I talk to God all the time, mostly during my long walks in the country.and he told me...
I don't know why people fear god, i see him as a good friend, since Betty died god and i talk every night, he's such a comfort.
I read the Bible NT and OT both of them, I could see it there, for myself, right?Who told you this, by the way?