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Why exactly is Satan bad?
- Thread starter Eddi
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Speak for yourself
I'm looking for your evidence of the claim you made that satan is a murderer and liar. I have no idea what lead you to your conclusion, I don't read minds, which is why I asked. It's a fairly innocuous question to generate so much side stepping.
First, to qualify the answer, this isn’t a thread about whether Satan exists or doesn’t exist. It is assumed that the poster believes he exists — either from the Bible or from another religion that believes he exists. My foundation is that I follow the belief system as presented through the Bible.
We come to that conclusion through various scriptures such as:
1 John 3:
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[And] not be like Cain who [took his nature and got his motivation] from the evil one and slew his brother. And why did he slay him? Because his deeds (activities, works) were wicked and malicious and his brother’s were righteous (virtuous).
Then we have the words from Jesus:
John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
So we have both “murderer” and “liar” or the father of lies.
Marwan
*banned*
None has the right to be worshiped but God the Most Great, the Compassionate. None has the right to be worshiped but God, the Lord of the Heavens, the Lord of the Earth, and the Lord of the after-life.
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I have been attacked at least 20 times by devils and demons, 2 major ones.
They are evil and merciless entities who wants the most bad for you and will try to do that happily.
But they can keep trying themselves on me and fail, as they have done until now, and as they will continue to do.
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I have been attacked at least 20 times by devils and demons, 2 major ones.
They are evil and merciless entities who wants the most bad for you and will try to do that happily.
But they can keep trying themselves on me and fail, as they have done until now, and as they will continue to do.
Terrible parenting.
No, he was not unsuccessful. Ten --- TEN!! --- of Job's children (that is, all of them, each and every one) died. With God's "nihil obstat" (permission).
To qualify your qualifying (for the 2nd time), I did not ask you whether satan does or does not exist. I asked you for evidence of your claim.
We? I don't.
Thankyou. How hard was that? I have no idea why it was so difficult for you to give an answer!
I have comments and a follow up question to your answer but I've learnt my lesson and won't bother asking it.
OK
Thus the qualifier
Not hard at all… I did ask you if you wanted scriptural references… you never said “yes"
OK - you did seem to make it difficult to understand just what you were looking for. Once I figured it out (or you asked correctly) - wasn’t hard to answer
Sand Dancer
Currently catless
The Bible should show this. It talks about it but doesn't give any stories showing it.
I think you missed the context - You might reread.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
The colonies were corrupted by their rebellion against the crown, from England's perspective.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
My moral standards are higher than that.
I know you think so. But His standards are farther above yours than you could ever know.
Correct, I did not, however I did say I can't tell you what your evidence is. I'm not a mind reader, if I were I wouldn't have asked the question.
I don't believe I changed the wording of my question in any of the 4,000 times I asked you... What is your evidence for claiming satan is a murderer and liar? But I wouldn't want to ruin your 100% record of thinking you're right so I'm willing to take the blame.
Treasure Hunter
Well-Known Member
God is the sole creator. He creates all ideas, thoughts, wills, and accusations. True or false?
If my claim is true, then how can the current version of God be condemned unless it’s through the doing of a higher version of God?
Both true and false simultaneously. He does paradoxes.
Your claim isn't correct.
Treasure Hunter
Well-Known Member
This thread is a good illustration of the two brothers: the good son who trusts the father and the rejected son who sees the imposter and revolts. Both brothers have a piece of the truth and must be united.
Have you read the book of Job?