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Why I am an Ahmadi Muslim?

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
I understand by abstinance from any partner with God you mean that an Ahmadi Muslim is expected to be strictly monotheistic? Perhaps also that he recognizes the authority of the One God as supreme and decisive in all circunstances?
We, Ahmadis, do believe in Oneness of G-d:
Arabic: لآ اِلَهَ اِلّا اللّهُ مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُوُل اللّهِ
Roman Transliteration: Laa ilaaha illal Lahoo Mohammadur Rasool Ullah
English:"There is none worthy of worship except God Muhammad is the Messenger of God".
Regards
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
That much is clear. But I see references to the importance of emphasizing that "God has no partner", and I feel that it may have a subler meaning lost in translation.

Islam obviously approves of cooperation with God's will, so something else must be meant by "partnership". It is not very clear what exactly.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
paarsurrey said:
Does one find any of the pillars in?:
Condition I
That he/she shall abstain from Shirk (association of any partner with God) right up to the day of his/her death.
http://www.alislam.org/apps/cob/webapp/
Regards
I understand by abstinance from any partner with God you mean that an Ahmadi Muslim is expected to be strictly monotheistic? Perhaps also that he recognizes the authority of the One God as supreme and decisive in all circunstances?
That much is clear. But I see references to the importance of emphasizing that "God has no partner", and I feel that it may have a subler meaning lost in translation.

Islam obviously approves of cooperation with God's will, so something else must be meant by "partnership". It is not very clear what exactly.

There is a short chapter in Quran that eliminated categorically G-d having any partner whatsoever, I quote it below:

The Holy Quran : Chapter 112: Al-Ikhlas

[112:1]In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[112:2]Say, ‘He is Allah, the One;
[112:3]‘Allah, the Independent and Besought of all.
[112:4]‘He begets not, nor is He begotten;
[112:5]‘And there is none like unto Him.’
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=112


"Perhaps also that he recognizes the authority of the One God as supreme and decisive in all circunstances?"

There is nothing wrong with believing Allah as supreme and decisive in all circumstances.It in fact eases human life instead of entangling human mind in different man-made mythical images of sorts.
Please elaborate as to what is in your mind so that I could reply and clear it, if I know the answer.
Regards
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
There is a short chapter in Quran that eliminated categorically G-d having any partner whatsoever, I quote it below:

The Holy Quran : Chapter 112: Al-Ikhlas

[112:1]In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[112:2]Say, ‘He is Allah, the One;
[112:3]‘Allah, the Independent and Besought of all.
[112:4]‘He begets not, nor is He begotten;
[112:5]‘And there is none like unto Him.’
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=112


Thanks. I do however remain with the impression that there is a subtle language challenge at work here.

This Surah does not seem to address what I understand by the English word "partnership". It is a statement of the exceptionality of God and of its supremacy, and that is fair enough. But it would not in and of itself imply that God has no partners of any kind.

Sorry if I am being too nitpicky. I sincerely think this may be a source of unnecessary misunderstandings about the message of the Quran. But of course, it is your call, not mine.

"Perhaps also that he recognizes the authority of the One God as supreme and decisive in all circunstances?"

There is nothing wrong with believing Allah as supreme and decisive in all circumstances.
I actually disagree, but I think we can agree that according to the Quran that is certainly true.

It in fact eases human life instead of entangling human mind in different man-made mythical images of sorts.

A believer in the God of Ibrahim would probably agree. I am not such a believer, but that is another matter for another time.

Please elaborate as to what is in your mind so that I could reply and clear it, if I know the answer.
Regards

The matter of the God described of the Quran being supreme, one and only seems clear enough. I won't hold such a belief myself, but it is stated clearly enough.

I also think it is a serious mistake to expect that belief to be compatible and healthy for everybody, but you know that already.

But at this moment, I am more interested in attempting to verify whether there is a better (English) word to use in your analysis of Surah 112 than "partner". I suspect it is not a very accurate translation of the original Arabic word, at least in this context. Unbeliever as I am, it still seems to me that an English-speaking Muslim might easily describe his love and dedication to God as a partnership without being all that wrong or disrespectful.

It is a very sympathetic word, "partner".
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
This Surah does not seem to address what I understand by the English word "partnership". It is a statement of the exceptionality of God and of its supremacy, and that is fair enough. But it would not in and of itself imply that God has no partners of any kind.

Online Etymology of the Word "partner":
partner (n.)
c. 1300, altered from parcener (late 13c.), from Old French parçonier "partner, associate; joint owner, joint heir," from parçon "partition, division. portion, share, lot," from Latin partitionem (nominative partitio) "a sharing, partition, division, distribution" (see partition (n.)). Form in English influenced bypart (n.). The word also may represent Old French part tenour "part holder."
partner (v.)
1610s, transitive, "to make a partner," from partner (n.). Intransitive sense from 1961. Related: Partnered; partnering.​
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=partner

Quran Dictionary - ش ر ك
The triliteral root shīn rā kāf (ش ر ك) occurs 168 times in the Quran, in eight derived forms:
  • once as the form III verb shārik (شَارِكْ)
  • 71 times as the form IV verb ashraka (أَشْرَكَ)
  • five times as the noun shir'k (شِرْك)
  • 40 times as the noun sharīk (شَرِيك)
  • 44 times as the form IV active participle mush'rik (مُشْرِك)
  • three times as the form IV active participle mush'rikāt (مُشْرِكَٰت)
  • twice as the form IV active participle mush'rikat (مُشْرِكَة)
  • twice as the form VIII active participle mush'tarikūn (مُشْتَرِكُون)
The translations below are brief glosses intended as a guide to meaning. An Arabic word may have arange of meanings depending on context. Click on a word for more linguistic information, or to suggestion a correction.

Verb (form III) - to be a partner
(17:64:10) washārik'hum and be a partner وَشَارِكْهُمْ فِي الْأَمْوَالِ وَالْأَوْلَادِ وَعِدْهُمْ
Verb (form IV) - to associate partners
(2:96:8) ashrakū associate[d] partners (with Allah) وَلَتَجِدَنَّهُمْ أَحْرَصَ النَّاسِ عَلَىٰ حَيَاةٍ وَمِنَ الَّذِينَ أَشْرَكُوا
(3:64:15) nush'rika we associate partners أَلَّا نَعْبُدَ إِلَّا اللَّهَ وَلَا نُشْرِكَ بِهِ شَيْئًا
(3:151:8) ashrakū they associated partners سَنُلْقِي فِي قُلُوبِ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا الرُّعْبَ بِمَا أَشْرَكُوا بِاللَّهِ
(3:186:14) ashrakū associate partners with Allah وَلَتَسْمَعُنَّ مِنَ الَّذِينَ أُوتُوا الْكِتَابَ مِنْ قَبْلِكُمْ وَمِنَ الَّذِينَ أَشْرَكُواأَذًى كَثِيرًا
(4:36:4) tush'rikū associate وَاعْبُدُوا اللَّهَ وَلَا تُشْرِكُوا بِهِ شَيْئًا
(4:48:6) yush'raka partners be associated إِنَّ اللَّهَ لَا يَغْفِرُ أَنْ يُشْرَكَ بِهِ وَيَغْفِرُ مَا دُونَ ذَٰلِكَ لِمَنْ يَشَاءُ
(4:48:15) yush'rik associates partners وَمَنْ يُشْرِكْ بِاللَّهِ فَقَدِ افْتَرَىٰ إِثْمًا عَظِيمًا
(4:116:6) yush'raka partners be associated إِنَّ اللَّهَ لَا يَغْفِرُ أَنْ يُشْرَكَ بِهِ وَيَغْفِرُ مَا دُونَ ذَٰلِكَ لِمَنْ يَشَاءُ
(4:116:15) yush'rik associates partners وَمَنْ يُشْرِكْ بِاللَّهِ فَقَدْ ضَلَّ ضَلَالًا بَعِيدًا
(5:72:21) yush'rik associates partners إِنَّهُ مَنْ يُشْرِكْ بِاللَّهِ فَقَدْ حَرَّمَ اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ الْجَنَّةَ
(5:82:9) ashrakū (are) polytheists لَتَجِدَنَّ أَشَدَّ النَّاسِ عَدَاوَةً لِلَّذِينَ آمَنُوا الْيَهُودَ وَالَّذِينَ أَشْرَكُوا
(6:19:37) tush'rikūna you associate (with Him) قُلْ إِنَّمَا هُوَ إِلَٰهٌ وَاحِدٌ وَإِنَّنِي بَرِيءٌ مِمَّا تُشْرِكُونَ
(6:22:7) ashrakū associated others with Allah وَيَوْمَ نَحْشُرُهُمْ جَمِيعًا ثُمَّ نَقُولُ لِلَّذِينَ أَشْرَكُوا أَيْنَ شُرَكَاؤُكُمُ
(6:41:12) tush'rikūna you associate (with Him) فَيَكْشِفُ مَا تَدْعُونَ إِلَيْهِ إِنْ شَاءَ وَتَنْسَوْنَ مَا تُشْرِكُونَ
(6:64:10) tush'rikūna associate partners (with Allah) قُلِ اللَّهُ يُنَجِّيكُمْ مِنْهَا وَمِنْ كُلِّ كَرْبٍ ثُمَّ أَنْتُمْ تُشْرِكُونَ
(6:78:17) tush'rikūna you associate (with Allah) فَلَمَّا أَفَلَتْ قَالَ يَا قَوْمِ إِنِّي بَرِيءٌ مِمَّا تُشْرِكُونَ
(6:80:12) tush'rikūna you associate وَلَا أَخَافُ مَا تُشْرِكُونَ بِهِ إِلَّا أَنْ يَشَاءَ رَبِّي شَيْئًا
(6:81:4) ashraktum you associate (with Allah) وَكَيْفَ أَخَافُ مَا أَشْرَكْتُمْ
(6:81:8) ashraktum have associated وَلَا تَخَافُونَ أَنَّكُمْ أَشْرَكْتُمْ بِاللَّهِ مَا لَمْ يُنَزِّلْ بِهِ عَلَيْكُمْ سُلْطَانًا
(6:88:11) ashrakū they (had) associated partners (with Allah) وَلَوْ أَشْرَكُوا لَحَبِطَ عَنْهُمْ مَا كَانُوا يَعْمَلُونَ
(6:107:5) ashrakū associated partners (with Him) وَلَوْ شَاءَ اللَّهُ مَا أَشْرَكُوا وَمَا جَعَلْنَاكَ عَلَيْهِمْ حَفِيظًا
(6:148:3) ashrakū associate partners (with Allah) سَيَقُولُ الَّذِينَ أَشْرَكُوا لَوْ شَاءَ اللَّهُ مَا أَشْرَكْنَا
(6:148:8) ashraknā we (would) have associated partners (with Allah) لَوْ شَاءَ اللَّهُ مَا أَشْرَكْنَا وَلَا آبَاؤُنَا وَلَا حَرَّمْنَا مِنْ شَيْءٍ
(6:151:9) tush'rikū associate قُلْ تَعَالَوْا أَتْلُ مَا حَرَّمَ رَبُّكُمْ عَلَيْكُمْ أَلَّا تُشْرِكُوا بِهِ شَيْئًا
(7:33:16) tush'rikū you associate (others) وَأَنْ تُشْرِكُوا بِاللَّهِ مَا لَمْ يُنَزِّلْ بِهِ سُلْطَانًا
(7:173:4) ashraka partners (were) associated (with Allah) أَوْ تَقُولُوا إِنَّمَا أَشْرَكَ آبَاؤُنَا مِنْ قَبْلُ وَكُنَّا ذُرِّيَّةً مِنْ بَعْدِهِمْ
(7:190:12) yush'rikūna they associate (with Him) فَتَعَالَى اللَّهُ عَمَّا يُشْرِكُونَ
(7:191:1) ayush'rikūna Do they associate أَيُشْرِكُونَ مَا لَا يَخْلُقُ شَيْئًا وَهُمْ يُخْلَقُونَ
(9:31:23) yush'rikūna they associate (with Him) لَا إِلَٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَ سُبْحَانَهُ عَمَّا يُشْرِكُونَ
(10:18:29) yush'rikūna they associate (with Him) سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ عَمَّا يُشْرِكُونَ
(10:28:7) ashrakū associate partners (with Allah) وَيَوْمَ نَحْشُرُهُمْ جَمِيعًا ثُمَّ نَقُولُ لِلَّذِينَ أَشْرَكُوا مَكَانَكُمْ
(11:54:16) tush'rikūna you associate قَالَ إِنِّي أُشْهِدُ اللَّهَ وَاشْهَدُوا أَنِّي بَرِيءٌ مِمَّا تُشْرِكُونَ
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
(12:38:11) nush'rika we associate مَا كَانَ لَنَا أَنْ نُشْرِكَ بِاللَّهِ مِنْ شَيْءٍ
(13:36:20) ush'rika I associate partners قُلْ إِنَّمَا أُمِرْتُ أَنْ أَعْبُدَ اللَّهَ وَلَا أُشْرِكَ بِهِ
(14:22:37) ashraktumūni your association of me (with Allah) إِنِّي كَفَرْتُ بِمَا أَشْرَكْتُمُونِ مِنْ قَبْلُ
(16:1:9) yush'rikūna they associate أَتَىٰ أَمْرُ اللَّهِ فَلَا تَسْتَعْجِلُوهُ سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ عَمَّا يُشْرِكُونَ
(16:3:7) yush'rikūna they associate خَلَقَ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضَ بِالْحَقِّ تَعَالَىٰ عَمَّا يُشْرِكُونَ
(16:35:3) ashrakū associate partners (with Allah) وَقَالَ الَّذِينَ أَشْرَكُوا لَوْ شَاءَ اللَّهُ مَا عَبَدْنَا مِنْ دُونِهِ مِنْ شَيْءٍ
(16:54:10) yush'rikūna associate others ثُمَّ إِذَا كَشَفَ الضُّرَّ عَنْكُمْ إِذَا فَرِيقٌ مِنْكُمْ بِرَبِّهِمْ يُشْرِكُونَ
(16:86:4) ashrakū associated partners with Allah وَإِذَا رَأَى الَّذِينَ أَشْرَكُوا شُرَكَاءَهُمْ قَالُوا رَبَّنَا هَٰؤُلَاءِ شُرَكَاؤُنَا الَّذِينَ كُنَّا نَدْعُو مِنْ دُونِكَ
(18:26:20) yush'riku He shares مَا لَهُمْ مِنْ دُونِهِ مِنْ وَلِيٍّ وَلَا يُشْرِكُ فِي حُكْمِهِ أَحَدًا
(18:38:6) ush'riku I associate لَٰكِنَّا هُوَ اللَّهُ رَبِّي وَلَا أُشْرِكُ بِرَبِّي أَحَدًا
(18:42:17) ush'rik I had not associated وَيَقُولُ يَا لَيْتَنِي لَمْ أُشْرِكْ بِرَبِّي أَحَدًا
(18:110:21) yush'rik associate فَلْيَعْمَلْ عَمَلًا صَالِحًا وَلَا يُشْرِكْ بِعِبَادَةِ رَبِّهِ أَحَدًا
(20:32:1) wa-ashrik'hu And make him share وَأَشْرِكْهُ فِي أَمْرِي
(22:17:10) ashrakū (are) polytheists إِنَّ الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا وَالَّذِينَ هَادُوا وَالصَّابِئِينَ وَالنَّصَارَىٰ وَالْمَجُوسَ وَالَّذِينَ أَشْرَكُوا إِنَّ اللَّهَ يَفْصِلُ بَيْنَهُمْ يَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ
(22:26:8) tush'rik associate وَإِذْ بَوَّأْنَا لِإِبْرَاهِيمَ مَكَانَ الْبَيْتِ أَنْ لَا تُشْرِكْ بِي شَيْئًا
(22:31:7) yush'rik associates partners وَمَنْ يُشْرِكْ بِاللَّهِ فَكَأَنَّمَا خَرَّ مِنَ السَّمَاءِ فَتَخْطَفُهُ الطَّيْرُ
(23:59:5) yush'rikūna associate partners وَالَّذِينَ هُمْ بِرَبِّهِمْ لَا يُشْرِكُونَ
(23:92:6) yush'rikūna they associate عَالِمِ الْغَيْبِ وَالشَّهَادَةِ فَتَعَالَىٰ عَمَّا يُشْرِكُونَ
(24:55:29) yush'rikūna they associate يَعْبُدُونَنِي لَا يُشْرِكُونَ بِي شَيْئًا
(27:59:12) yush'rikūna they associate (with Him) آللَّهُ خَيْرٌ أَمَّا يُشْرِكُونَ
(27:63:20) yush'rikūna they associate (with Him) أَإِلَٰهٌ مَعَ اللَّهِ تَعَالَى اللَّهُ عَمَّا يُشْرِكُونَ
(28:68:14) yush'rikūna they associate (with Him) مَا كَانَ لَهُمُ الْخِيَرَةُ سُبْحَانَ اللَّهِ وَتَعَالَىٰ عَمَّا يُشْرِكُونَ
(29:8:7) litush'rika to make you associate وَإِنْ جَاهَدَاكَ لِتُشْرِكَ بِي مَا لَيْسَ لَكَ بِهِ عِلْمٌ فَلَا تُطِعْهُمَا
(29:65:16) yush'rikūna associate partners (with Him) فَلَمَّا نَجَّاهُمْ إِلَى الْبَرِّ إِذَا هُمْ يُشْرِكُونَ
(30:33:18) yush'rikūna associate partners ثُمَّ إِذَا أَذَاقَهُمْ مِنْهُ رَحْمَةً إِذَا فَرِيقٌ مِنْهُمْ بِرَبِّهِمْ يُشْرِكُونَ
(30:35:10) yush'rikūna associating أَمْ أَنْزَلْنَا عَلَيْهِمْ سُلْطَانًا فَهُوَ يَتَكَلَّمُ بِمَا كَانُوا بِهِ يُشْرِكُونَ
(30:40:22) yush'rikūna they associate سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ عَمَّا يُشْرِكُونَ
(31:13:9) tush'rik associate partners وَإِذْ قَالَ لُقْمَانُ لِابْنِهِ وَهُوَ يَعِظُهُ يَا بُنَيَّ لَا تُشْرِكْ بِاللَّهِ
(31:15:5) tush'rika you associate partners وَإِنْ جَاهَدَاكَ عَلَىٰ أَنْ تُشْرِكَ بِي مَا لَيْسَ لَكَ بِهِ عِلْمٌ فَلَا تُطِعْهُمَا
(39:65:9) ashrakta you associate (with Allah) لَئِنْ أَشْرَكْتَ لَيَحْبَطَنَّ عَمَلُكَ وَلَتَكُونَنَّ مِنَ الْخَاسِرِينَ
(39:67:17) yush'rikūna they associate (with Him) وَالسَّمَاوَاتُ مَطْوِيَّاتٌ بِيَمِينِهِ سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ عَمَّا يُشْرِكُونَ
(40:12:9) yush'rak (others) were associated ذَٰلِكُمْ بِأَنَّهُ إِذَا دُعِيَ اللَّهُ وَحْدَهُ كَفَرْتُمْ وَإِنْ يُشْرَكْ بِهِ تُؤْمِنُوا
(40:42:4) wa-ush'rika and (to) associate تَدْعُونَنِي لِأَكْفُرَ بِاللَّهِ وَأُشْرِكَ بِهِ مَا لَيْسَ لِي بِهِ عِلْمٌ
(40:73:7) tush'rikūna associate ثُمَّ قِيلَ لَهُمْ أَيْنَ مَا كُنْتُمْ تُشْرِكُونَ
(52:43:9) yush'rikūna they associate (with Him) أَمْ لَهُمْ إِلَٰهٌ غَيْرُ اللَّهِ سُبْحَانَ اللَّهِ عَمَّا يُشْرِكُونَ
(59:23:19) yush'rikūna they associate (with Him) الْعَزِيزُ الْجَبَّارُ الْمُتَكَبِّرُ سُبْحَانَ اللَّهِ عَمَّا يُشْرِكُونَ
(60:12:10) yush'rik'na they will associate إِذَا جَاءَكَ الْمُؤْمِنَاتُ يُبَايِعْنَكَ عَلَىٰ أَنْ لَا يُشْرِكْنَ بِاللَّهِ شَيْئًا
(72:2:7) nush'rika we will associate وَلَنْ نُشْرِكَ بِرَبِّنَا أَحَدًا
(72:20:6) ush'riku I associate قُلْ إِنَّمَا أَدْعُو رَبِّي وَلَا أُشْرِكُ بِهِ أَحَدًا
Noun
(31:13:12) l-shir'ka associating partners يَا بُنَيَّ لَا تُشْرِكْ بِاللَّهِ إِنَّ الشِّرْكَ لَظُلْمٌ عَظِيمٌ
(34:22:21) shir'kin partnership وَمَا لَهُمْ فِيهِمَا مِنْ شِرْكٍ وَمَا لَهُ مِنْهُمْ مِنْ ظَهِيرٍ
(35:14:14) bishir'kikum your association وَيَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ يَكْفُرُونَ بِشِرْكِكُمْ وَلَا يُنَبِّئُكَ مِثْلُ خَبِيرٍ
(35:40:16) shir'kun (is) a share أَرُونِي مَاذَا خَلَقُوا مِنَ الْأَرْضِ أَمْ لَهُمْ شِرْكٌ فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ
(46:4:15) shir'kun (is) any share أَرُونِي مَاذَا خَلَقُوا مِنَ الْأَرْضِ أَمْ لَهُمْ شِرْكٌ فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Noun
(4:12:71) shurakāu (are) partners فَإِنْ كَانُوا أَكْثَرَ مِنْ ذَٰلِكَ فَهُمْ شُرَكَاءُ فِي الثُّلُثِ
(6:22:9) shurakāukumu your partners ثُمَّ نَقُولُ لِلَّذِينَ أَشْرَكُوا أَيْنَ شُرَكَاؤُكُمُ
(6:94:21) shurakāu partners (with Allah) وَمَا نَرَىٰ مَعَكُمْ شُفَعَاءَكُمُ الَّذِينَ زَعَمْتُمْ أَنَّهُمْ فِيكُمْ شُرَكَاءُ
(6:100:3) shurakāa partners وَجَعَلُوا لِلَّهِ شُرَكَاءَ الْجِنَّ وَخَلَقَهُمْ وَخَرَقُوا لَهُ بَنِينَ
(6:136:14) lishurakāinā (is) for our partners فَقَالُوا هَٰذَا لِلَّهِ بِزَعْمِهِمْ وَهَٰذَا لِشُرَكَائِنَا
(6:136:17) lishurakāihim for their partners فَمَا كَانَ لِشُرَكَائِهِمْ فَلَا يَصِلُ إِلَى اللَّهِ
(6:136:28) shurakāihim their partners وَمَا كَانَ لِلَّهِ فَهُوَ يَصِلُ إِلَىٰ شُرَكَائِهِمْ
(6:137:8) shurakāuhum their partners وَكَذَٰلِكَ زَيَّنَ لِكَثِيرٍ مِنَ الْمُشْرِكِينَ قَتْلَ أَوْلَادِهِمْ شُرَكَاؤُهُمْ
(6:139:17) shurakāu (are) partners وَإِنْ يَكُنْ مَيْتَةً فَهُمْ فِيهِ شُرَكَاءُ
(6:163:2) sharīka partners لَا شَرِيكَ لَهُ وَبِذَٰلِكَ أُمِرْتُ وَأَنَا أَوَّلُ الْمُسْلِمِينَ
(7:190:6) shurakāa partners فَلَمَّا آتَاهُمَا صَالِحًا جَعَلَا لَهُ شُرَكَاءَ فِيمَا آتَاهُمَا
(7:195:22) shurakāakum your partners قُلِ ادْعُوا شُرَكَاءَكُمْ ثُمَّ كِيدُونِ فَلَا تُنْظِرُونِ
(10:28:10) washurakāukum and your partners ثُمَّ نَقُولُ لِلَّذِينَ أَشْرَكُوا مَكَانَكُمْ أَنْتُمْ وَشُرَكَاؤُكُمْ
(10:28:14) shurakāuhum their partners فَزَيَّلْنَا بَيْنَهُمْ وَقَالَ شُرَكَاؤُهُمْ مَا كُنْتُمْ إِيَّانَا تَعْبُدُونَ
(10:34:4) shurakāikum your partners قُلْ هَلْ مِنْ شُرَكَائِكُمْ مَنْ يَبْدَأُ الْخَلْقَ ثُمَّ يُعِيدُهُ
(10:35:4) shurakāikum your partners قُلْ هَلْ مِنْ شُرَكَائِكُمْ مَنْ يَهْدِي إِلَى الْحَقِّ
(10:66:17) shurakāa partners وَمَا يَتَّبِعُ الَّذِينَ يَدْعُونَ مِنْ دُونِ اللَّهِ شُرَكَاءَ
(10:71:22) washurakāakum and your partners فَأَجْمِعُوا أَمْرَكُمْ وَشُرَكَاءَكُمْ ثُمَّ لَا يَكُنْ أَمْرُكُمْ عَلَيْكُمْ غُمَّةً
(13:16:32) shurakāa partners أَمْ جَعَلُوا لِلَّهِ شُرَكَاءَ خَلَقُوا كَخَلْقِهِ فَتَشَابَهَ الْخَلْقُ عَلَيْهِمْ
(13:33:11) shurakāa partners وَجَعَلُوا لِلَّهِ شُرَكَاءَ قُلْ سَمُّوهُمْ
(16:27:7) shurakāiya (are) My partners وَيَقُولُ أَيْنَ شُرَكَائِيَ الَّذِينَ كُنْتُمْ تُشَاقُّونَ فِيهِمْ
(16:86:5) shurakāahum their partners وَإِذَا رَأَى الَّذِينَ أَشْرَكُوا شُرَكَاءَهُمْ قَالُوا رَبَّنَا هَٰؤُلَاءِ شُرَكَاؤُنَا الَّذِينَ كُنَّا نَدْعُو مِنْ دُونِكَ
(16:86:9) shurakāunā (are) our partners قَالُوا رَبَّنَا هَٰؤُلَاءِ شُرَكَاؤُنَا الَّذِينَ كُنَّا نَدْعُو مِنْ دُونِكَ
(17:111:11) sharīkun a partner وَقُلِ الْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ الَّذِي لَمْ يَتَّخِذْ وَلَدًا وَلَمْ يَكُنْ لَهُ شَرِيكٌ فِي الْمُلْكِ
(18:52:4) shurakāiya My partners وَيَوْمَ يَقُولُ نَادُوا شُرَكَائِيَ الَّذِينَ زَعَمْتُمْ فَدَعَوْهُمْ
(25:2:12) sharīkun a partner وَلَمْ يَتَّخِذْ وَلَدًا وَلَمْ يَكُنْ لَهُ شَرِيكٌ فِي الْمُلْكِ
(28:62:5) shurakāiya (are) My partners وَيَوْمَ يُنَادِيهِمْ فَيَقُولُ أَيْنَ شُرَكَائِيَ الَّذِينَ كُنْتُمْ تَزْعُمُونَ
(28:64:3) shurakāakum your partners وَقِيلَ ادْعُوا شُرَكَاءَكُمْ فَدَعَوْهُمْ فَلَمْ يَسْتَجِيبُوا لَهُمْ
(28:74:5) shurakāiya (are) My partners وَيَوْمَ يُنَادِيهِمْ فَيَقُولُ أَيْنَ شُرَكَائِيَ الَّذِينَ كُنْتُمْ تَزْعُمُونَ
(30:13:5) shurakāihim theirs partners وَلَمْ يَكُنْ لَهُمْ مِنْ شُرَكَائِهِمْ شُفَعَاءُ
(30:13:8) bishurakāihim in their partners وَكَانُوا بِشُرَكَائِهِمْ كَافِرِينَ
(30:28:13) shurakāa partners هَلْ لَكُمْ مِنْ مَا مَلَكَتْ أَيْمَانُكُمْ مِنْ شُرَكَاءَ فِي مَا رَزَقْنَاكُمْ
(30:40:12) shurakāikum (of) your partners هَلْ مِنْ شُرَكَائِكُمْ مَنْ يَفْعَلُ مِنْ ذَٰلِكُمْ مِنْ شَيْءٍ
(34:27:6) shurakāa (as) partners قُلْ أَرُونِيَ الَّذِينَ أَلْحَقْتُمْ بِهِ شُرَكَاءَ كَلَّا
(35:40:3) shurakāakumu your partners قُلْ أَرَأَيْتُمْ شُرَكَاءَكُمُ الَّذِينَ تَدْعُونَ مِنْ دُونِ اللَّهِ
(39:29:6) shurakāu partners ضَرَبَ اللَّهُ مَثَلًا رَجُلًا فِيهِ شُرَكَاءُ مُتَشَاكِسُونَ
(41:47:22) shurakāī My partners وَيَوْمَ يُنَادِيهِمْ أَيْنَ شُرَكَائِي قَالُوا آذَنَّاكَ مَا مِنَّا مِنْ شَهِيدٍ
(42:21:3) shurakāu (are) partners أَمْ لَهُمْ شُرَكَاءُ شَرَعُوا لَهُمْ مِنَ الدِّينِ مَا لَمْ يَأْذَنْ بِهِ اللَّهُ
(68:41:3) shurakāu partners أَمْ لَهُمْ شُرَكَاءُ فَلْيَأْتُوا بِشُرَكَائِهِمْ إِنْ كَانُوا صَادِقِينَ
(68:41:5) bishurakāihim their partners أَمْ لَهُمْ شُرَكَاءُ فَلْيَأْتُوا بِشُرَكَائِهِمْ إِنْ كَانُوا صَادِقِينَ
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Active participle (form IV)
(2:105:9) l-mush'rikīna those who associate partners (with Allah) مَا يَوَدُّ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا مِنْ أَهْلِ الْكِتَابِ وَلَا الْمُشْرِكِينَ أَنْ يُنَزَّلَ عَلَيْكُمْ مِنْ خَيْرٍ مِنْ رَبِّكُمْ
(2:135:15) l-mush'rikīna those who associated partners (with Allah) قُلْ بَلْ مِلَّةَ إِبْرَاهِيمَ حَنِيفًا وَمَا كَانَ مِنَ الْمُشْرِكِينَ
(2:221:15) l-mush'rikīna (to) [the] polytheistic men وَلَا تُنْكِحُوا الْمُشْرِكِينَ حَتَّىٰ يُؤْمِنُوا
(2:221:22) mush'rikin a polytheistic man وَلَعَبْدٌ مُؤْمِنٌ خَيْرٌ مِنْ مُشْرِكٍ وَلَوْ أَعْجَبَكُمْ
(3:67:14) l-mush'rikīna the polytheists وَلَٰكِنْ كَانَ حَنِيفًا مُسْلِمًا وَمَا كَانَ مِنَ الْمُشْرِكِينَ
(3:95:11) l-mush'rikīna the polytheists قُلْ صَدَقَ اللَّهُ فَاتَّبِعُوا مِلَّةَ إِبْرَاهِيمَ حَنِيفًا وَمَا كَانَ مِنَ الْمُشْرِكِينَ
(6:14:24) l-mush'rikīna the polytheists وَلَا تَكُونَنَّ مِنَ الْمُشْرِكِينَ
(6:23:12) mush'rikīna those who associated others (with Allah) ثُمَّ لَمْ تَكُنْ فِتْنَتُهُمْ إِلَّا أَنْ قَالُوا وَاللَّهِ رَبِّنَا مَا كُنَّا مُشْرِكِينَ
(6:79:12) l-mush'rikīna the polytheists إِنِّي وَجَّهْتُ وَجْهِيَ لِلَّذِي فَطَرَ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضَ حَنِيفًا وَمَا أَنَا مِنَ الْمُشْرِكِينَ
(6:106:13) l-mush'rikīna the polytheists لَا إِلَٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَ وَأَعْرِضْ عَنِ الْمُشْرِكِينَ
(6:121:20) lamush'rikūna (would) be the polytheists وَإِنْ أَطَعْتُمُوهُمْ إِنَّكُمْ لَمُشْرِكُونَ
(6:137:5) l-mush'rikīna the polytheists وَكَذَٰلِكَ زَيَّنَ لِكَثِيرٍ مِنَ الْمُشْرِكِينَ قَتْلَ أَوْلَادِهِمْ شُرَكَاؤُهُمْ
(6:161:16) l-mush'rikīna the polytheists دِينًا قِيَمًا مِلَّةَ إِبْرَاهِيمَ حَنِيفًا وَمَا كَانَ مِنَ الْمُشْرِكِينَ
(9:1:9) l-mush'rikīna the polytheists بَرَاءَةٌ مِنَ اللَّهِ وَرَسُولِهِ إِلَى الَّذِينَ عَاهَدْتُمْ مِنَ الْمُشْرِكِينَ
(9:3:14) l-mush'rikīna (to) the polytheists أَنَّ اللَّهَ بَرِيءٌ مِنَ الْمُشْرِكِينَ وَرَسُولُهُ
(9:4:5) l-mush'rikīna the polytheists إِلَّا الَّذِينَ عَاهَدْتُمْ مِنَ الْمُشْرِكِينَ ثُمَّ لَمْ يَنْقُصُوكُمْ شَيْئًا
(9:5:6) l-mush'rikīna the polytheists فَإِذَا انْسَلَخَ الْأَشْهُرُ الْحُرُمُ فَاقْتُلُوا الْمُشْرِكِينَ حَيْثُ وَجَدْتُمُوهُمْ
(9:6:4) l-mush'rikīna the polytheists وَإِنْ أَحَدٌ مِنَ الْمُشْرِكِينَ اسْتَجَارَكَ فَأَجِرْهُ حَتَّىٰ يَسْمَعَ كَلَامَ اللَّهِ
(9:7:3) lil'mush'rikīna for the polytheists كَيْفَ يَكُونُ لِلْمُشْرِكِينَ عَهْدٌ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ وَعِنْدَ رَسُولِهِ
(9:17:3) lil'mush'rikīna for the polytheists مَا كَانَ لِلْمُشْرِكِينَ أَنْ يَعْمُرُوا مَسَاجِدَ اللَّهِ شَاهِدِينَ عَلَىٰ أَنْفُسِهِمْ بِالْكُفْرِ
(9:28:5) l-mush'rikūna the polytheists إِنَّمَا الْمُشْرِكُونَ نَجَسٌ
(9:33:14) l-mush'rikūna the polytheists لِيُظْهِرَهُ عَلَى الدِّينِ كُلِّهِ وَلَوْ كَرِهَ الْمُشْرِكُونَ
(9:36:27) l-mush'rikīna the polytheists وَقَاتِلُوا الْمُشْرِكِينَ كَافَّةً كَمَا يُقَاتِلُونَكُمْ كَافَّةً
(9:113:8) lil'mush'rikīna for the polytheists مَا كَانَ لِلنَّبِيِّ وَالَّذِينَ آمَنُوا أَنْ يَسْتَغْفِرُوا لِلْمُشْرِكِينَ
(10:105:9) l-mush'rikīna the polytheists وَأَنْ أَقِمْ وَجْهَكَ لِلدِّينِ حَنِيفًا وَلَا تَكُونَنَّ مِنَ الْمُشْرِكِينَ
(12:106:7) mush'rikūna associate partners with Him وَمَا يُؤْمِنُ أَكْثَرُهُمْ بِاللَّهِ إِلَّا وَهُمْ مُشْرِكُونَ
(12:108:17) l-mush'rikīna the polytheists عَلَىٰ بَصِيرَةٍ أَنَا وَمَنِ اتَّبَعَنِي وَسُبْحَانَ اللَّهِ وَمَا أَنَا مِنَ الْمُشْرِكِينَ
(15:94:6) l-mush'rikīna the polytheists فَاصْدَعْ بِمَا تُؤْمَرُ وَأَعْرِضْ عَنِ الْمُشْرِكِينَ
(16:100:9) mush'rikūna associate partners إِنَّمَا سُلْطَانُهُ عَلَى الَّذِينَ يَتَوَلَّوْنَهُ وَالَّذِينَ هُمْ بِهِ مُشْرِكُونَ
(16:120:11) l-mush'rikīna the polytheists إِنَّ إِبْرَاهِيمَ كَانَ أُمَّةً قَانِتًا لِلَّهِ حَنِيفًا وَلَمْ يَكُ مِنَ الْمُشْرِكِينَ
(16:123:12) l-mush'rikīna the polytheists ثُمَّ أَوْحَيْنَا إِلَيْكَ أَنِ اتَّبِعْ مِلَّةَ إِبْرَاهِيمَ حَنِيفًا وَمَا كَانَ مِنَالْمُشْرِكِينَ
(22:31:4) mush'rikīna associating partners حُنَفَاءَ لِلَّهِ غَيْرَ مُشْرِكِينَ بِهِ
(24:3:14) mush'rikun a polytheist man وَالزَّانِيَةُ لَا يَنْكِحُهَا إِلَّا زَانٍ أَوْ مُشْرِكٌ
(28:87:16) l-mush'rikīna the polytheists وَادْعُ إِلَىٰ رَبِّكَ وَلَا تَكُونَنَّ مِنَ الْمُشْرِكِينَ
(30:31:9) l-mush'rikīna the polytheists مُنِيبِينَ إِلَيْهِ وَاتَّقُوهُ وَأَقِيمُوا الصَّلَاةَ وَلَا تَكُونُوا مِنَ الْمُشْرِكِينَ
(30:42:14) mush'rikīna polytheists فَانْظُرُوا كَيْفَ كَانَ عَاقِبَةُ الَّذِينَ مِنْ قَبْلُ كَانَ أَكْثَرُهُمْ مُشْرِكِينَ
(33:73:5) wal-mush'rikīna and the polytheist men لِيُعَذِّبَ اللَّهُ الْمُنَافِقِينَ وَالْمُنَافِقَاتِ وَالْمُشْرِكِينَ وَالْمُشْرِكَاتِ
(40:84:12) mush'rikīna associate قَالُوا آمَنَّا بِاللَّهِ وَحْدَهُ وَكَفَرْنَا بِمَا كُنَّا بِهِ مُشْرِكِينَ
(41:6:16) lil'mush'rikīna to the polytheists فَاسْتَقِيمُوا إِلَيْهِ وَاسْتَغْفِرُوهُ وَوَيْلٌ لِلْمُشْرِكِينَ
(42:13:26) l-mush'rikīna the polytheists كَبُرَ عَلَى الْمُشْرِكِينَ مَا تَدْعُوهُمْ إِلَيْهِ
(48:6:4) wal-mush'rikīna and the polytheist men وَيُعَذِّبَ الْمُنَافِقِينَ وَالْمُنَافِقَاتِ وَالْمُشْرِكِينَ وَالْمُشْرِكَاتِ
(61:9:14) l-mush'rikūna the polytheists لِيُظْهِرَهُ عَلَى الدِّينِ كُلِّهِ وَلَوْ كَرِهَ الْمُشْرِكُونَ
(98:1:8) wal-mush'rikīna and the polytheists لَمْ يَكُنِ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا مِنْ أَهْلِ الْكِتَابِ وَالْمُشْرِكِينَ مُنْفَكِّينَ حَتَّىٰ تَأْتِيَهُمُ الْبَيِّنَةُ
(98:6:7) wal-mush'rikīna and the polytheists إِنَّ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا مِنْ أَهْلِ الْكِتَابِ وَالْمُشْرِكِينَ فِي نَارِ جَهَنَّمَ
Active participle (form IV)
(2:221:3) l-mush'rikāti [the] polytheistic women وَلَا تَنْكِحُوا الْمُشْرِكَاتِ حَتَّىٰ يُؤْمِنَّ
(33:73:6) wal-mush'rikāti and the polytheist women لِيُعَذِّبَ اللَّهُ الْمُنَافِقِينَ وَالْمُنَافِقَاتِ وَالْمُشْرِكِينَ وَالْمُشْرِكَاتِ
(48:6:5) wal-mush'rikāti and the polytheist women وَيُعَذِّبَ الْمُنَافِقِينَ وَالْمُنَافِقَاتِ وَالْمُشْرِكِينَ وَالْمُشْرِكَاتِ
Active participle (form IV)
(2:221:10) mush'rikatin a polytheistic woman وَلَأَمَةٌ مُؤْمِنَةٌ خَيْرٌ مِنْ مُشْرِكَةٍ وَلَوْ أَعْجَبَتْكُمْ
(24:3:7) mush'rikatan a polytheist woman الزَّانِي لَا يَنْكِحُ إِلَّا زَانِيَةً أَوْ مُشْرِكَةً
Active participle (form VIII)
(37:33:5) mush'tarikūna (will be) sharers فَإِنَّهُمْ يَوْمَئِذٍ فِي الْعَذَابِ مُشْتَرِكُونَ
(43:39:9) mush'tarikūna sharing وَلَنْ يَنْفَعَكُمُ الْيَوْمَ إِذْ ظَلَمْتُمْ أَنَّكُمْ فِي الْعَذَابِ مُشْتَرِكُونَ
http://corpus.quran.com/qurandictionary.jsp?q=$rk
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
I do however remain with the impression that there is a subtle language challenge at work here.
This Surah does not seem to address what I understand by the English word "partnership". It is a statement of the exceptionality of God and of its supremacy, and that is fair enough. But it would not in and of itself imply that God has no partners of any kind.

I have given the etymology of English word "partner" in post #45 and also provided all places of Quran where the Arabic triliteral root shīn rā kāf (ش ر ك) occurs. It occurs 168 times in the Quran, in its eight derived forms, in posts #46 #47 #48.
One may have to look in all of them to pin-point one's view-point.
Thanks for your interest in Quran and its meanings.

Regards
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Several of those verses talk about associating with God as a positive thing that humans can do, don't they?

I may easily be mistaken and it is not like I feel strongly about the matter either way, but that is how it looks to be from where I stand.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Several of those verses talk about associating with God as a positive thing that humans can do, don't they?
I may easily be mistaken and it is not like I feel strongly about the matter either way, but that is how it looks to be from where I stand.
Never-mind, please.
Regards
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Assalam alaikum.. I have a doubt.. There are lots of saheeh hadeeths about dajjal, Imam Mahdi, return of son of Maryam(as) and the end times. Does Ahmadis reject those hadeeths or do you have a different interpretation from that of the mainstream Muslims? For example hadeeths which say Isa alaihissalam would rule the world with justice, during his rule wealth would be equally distributed, world would be in Peace, isa alaihissalam would destroy dajjal etc.
We, Ahmadi don't reject Ahadith/hadeeths, however, we interpret them within the context and meaning of Quran. Quran is supreme:

Sahih International: These are the verses* of Allah which We recite to you in truth. Then in what statement** and His verses will they believe?

*The Quran.
**
The word is ḥadīth-in.
Note: It is very clear from the above verse that not even hadith is to be accepted if its against the text and meaning of Quran else hadith is to be interpreted to reconcile with the verses of Quran. If it is not possible to interpret hadith within the text and context of verses of Quran, then even if its chain of ravis/communicators is saheeh, it is not saheeh as to its subject matter and meaning, independent of Quran.

Regards
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
I have seen a debate between an Ahmadi scholar and a Sunni guy. The Sunni guy was not a scholar but he issues Takfiri upon the Ahamadis. It was a very sad one to see.
I can only presume that you must be getting that also.
Really sad.
Peace bro.
Thanks and regards
 
i respect to your religion an believe but Ahmahi is not a islamic religion.if evry one come and read some things about Quran and after that said he is Imam MAhdi so we should have thousands of islamic religions!
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
i respect to your religion an believe but Ahmahi is not a islamic religion.if evry one come and read some things about Quran and after that said he is Imam MAhdi so we should have thousands of islamic religions!

I am not Ahmadi.

But, for you to say its not Islamic is such a bias statement that I find it quite offensive brother. When someone follows the Quran, do you still deem them non islamic. My God, please dont shun people like that. To mock a people is not Islamic, so it is you who is not Islamic.

That was not to offend you. Just stating something from the Quranic point of view. As a Muslim. Be submissive. Be Peaceful.

Peace.
 

The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
i respect to your religion an believe but Ahmahi is not a islamic religion.if evry one come and read some things about Quran and after that said he is Imam MAhdi so we should have thousands of islamic religions!

They identify as Muslims, they cite the shahada, accept the oneness of God, accept Muhammed as a prophet of God, accept the Quran as God's final message and they pray facing towards Mecca. They're Muslims.
 
I am not Ahmadi.

But, for you to say its not Islamic is such a bias statement that I find it quite offensive brother. When someone follows the Quran, do you still deem them non islamic. My God, please dont shun people like that. To mock a people is not Islamic, so it is you who is not Islamic.

That was not to offend you. Just stating something from the Quranic point of view. As a Muslim. Be submissive. Be Peaceful.

Peace.
hello my brother.
i am not bias and dont mock.i just said it is not a islamic religion.
every thing has a definition .by explation of you i can say i am last Imam and make a religion and name that muhammadi islam!
this is like a joke.i said i recpect to him but it is not a islamic religion.:rose::rose::rose::rose:
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
hello my brother.
i am not bias and dont mock.i just said it is not a islamic religion.
every thing has a definition .by explation of you i can say i am last Imam and make a religion and name that muhammadi islam!
this is like a joke.i said i recpect to him but it is not a islamic religion.:rose::rose::rose::rose:

Brother. Have you explored their theology in full. Totally.

Do you think Sunnism is an Islamic religion?

Do you believe that there is only one deen, millat?
 
They identify as Muslims, they cite the shahada, accept the oneness of God, accept Muhammed as a prophet of God, accept the Quran as God's final message and they pray facing towards Mecca. They're Muslims.
hello my brother.i know but islam is not that thing you see in appearance.
it has philosophy and if any one want to became muslim should research about it and if accept principles can be muslim.
islam is fixed .and anyone can not change it by his wishes.like Quran that all muslim have one Quran and it did not change.
 
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