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Why I am not an atheist.

John D. Brey

John D. Brey

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ratiocinator said:
Nonsense. We 'know' (as much as we can know anything in science) things evolved because of the evidence.
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A participant of this thread berated me more than once, somewhat correctly I might add, for speaking of "proof" rather than mere evidence. The idea, I think, is Popperian: evidence isn't proof.


John
 
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John D. Brey

John D. Brey

Well-Known Member
ratiocinator said:
Not really, at least not directly. Things evolve because they reproduce with inheritance and variation, when there are finite resources so not all individuals survive and reproduce.

There are no tautologies - just your own convoluted misunderstandings and apparent desperation to find fault.
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If life follows from [primordial] soup with causal dependability, the laws of nature encode a hidden subtext, a cosmic imperative, which tells them: "Make life!" And, through life, its by-products: mind, knowledge, understanding. It means that the laws of the universe have engineered their own comprehension. This is a breathtaking vision of nature, magnificent and uplifting in its majestic sweep. I hope it is correct. It would be wonderful if it were correct. But if it is, it represents a shift in the scientific world-view as profound as that initiated by Copernicus and Darwin put together.

Paul Davies, The Fifth Miracle.
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John
 
ratiocinator

ratiocinator

Lightly seared on the reality grill.
John D. Brey said:
If life follows from [primordial] soup with causal dependability, the laws of nature encode a hidden subtext, a cosmic imperative, which tells them: "Make life!" And, through life, its by-products: mind, knowledge, understanding. It means that the laws of the universe have engineered their own comprehension. This is a breathtaking vision of nature, magnificent and uplifting in its majestic sweep. I hope it is correct. It would be wonderful if it were correct. But if it is, it represents a shift in the scientific world-view as profound as that initiated by Copernicus and Darwin put together.

Paul Davies, The Fifth Miracle.
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Not really relevant to what I said - and there's a big 'if' at the start of the quote and it isn't a tautology either.
 
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