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Why I believe God Created Life.

Mycroft

Mycroft

Ministry of Serendipity
Susanpalli said:
Why then haven't scientists been able to construct a living cell from atoms and molecules?
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Because we don't have the technology to arrange matter at the atomic scale yet.

Can you produce a device that can move and reconfigure individal atoms?

You also didn't answer my previous question: Are you not alive?
 
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Susanpalli,JW

Member
Quatermass said:
Because we don't have the technology to arrange matter at the atomic scale yet.

Can you produce a device that can move and reconfigure individal atoms?

You also didn't answer my previous question: Are you not alive?
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Well, man has to create technology. How come technology hasn't evolved by chance?

I believe I am alive because a life force animates my being.

Shall we agree to disagree?
 
Mycroft

Mycroft

Ministry of Serendipity
Susanpalli said:
Well, man has to create technology. How come technology hasn't evolved by chance?
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I'm not going to dignify this with an answer. Evolution is not 'chance'. :facepalm:

I believe I am alive because a life force animates my being.
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But your body is constructed of non-living matter, yes?


Shall we agree to disagree?
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No, because I have more respect for you as an adult and a human than to condescend you in such a way.
 
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Susanpalli,JW

Member
Quatermass said:
I'm not going to dignify this with an answer. Evolution is not 'chance'. :facepalm:

What is it then?



But your body is constructed of non-living matter, yes?

So is a dead body.




No, because I have more respect for you as an adult and a human than to condescend you in such a way.
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Ok fair enough
 
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Susanpalli,JW

Member
Quatermass said:
I'm not going to dignify this with an answer. Evolution is not 'chance'. :facepalm:



But your body is constructed of non-living matter, yes?




No, because I have more respect for you as an adult and a human than to condescend you in such a way.
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If evolution isn't chance, what is it?

So is a dead body


(Sorry I don't know how to put my answers under the questions.
 
Mycroft

Mycroft

Ministry of Serendipity
Susanpalli said:
If evolution isn't chance, what is it?
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It is an intricate selection process of what works in what environment and what does not. There's no chance involved, either something is suitable for the environment it's in and thrives, or it is not and dies.

Worms, for example, inhabit a non-seeing environment. Always underground. So they never evolved eyes. Why? The conditions they thrive in don't call for eyes. But if you put a worm in an environment (such ours) where eyes are required, it cannot possibly survive for very long.

Likewise if you took a human and placed it in an environment underground where eyes were useless, the human would not be able to survive for very long.

So is a dead body
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But a dead body is still life, per se. So, in fact, non-living matter does produce life.
 
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Aman777

Bible Believer
Mestemia said:
One wonders why you are blatantly ignoring my posts.
Is it you who are afraid?
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Dear Mestemia, I just don't like the bugs which are a part of your posts. I get them off the screen and in so doing, ignore your posts. What do you have to ask?

Since it is against forums rules to even mention that liar is lying or being dishonest, you are going to get away with all manner of bull ****, aren't you?
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Not as much as people who CANNOT support their views with the AGREEMENT of Scripture, Science, and History. Can you? If so, you would be the first Evol to do so.

You talk a big game, but then run tail tucked and hide behind your big steaming piles of bull ****.
Your god must be so proud.
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I'm sorry that you cannot understand that most people don't want bugs crawling all over their screens. Perhaps you could change it to butterflies? God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman
 
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Susanpalli,JW

Member
Quatermass said:
It is an intricate selection process of what works in what environment and what does not. There's no chance involved, either something is suitable for the environment it's in and thrives, or it is not and dies.

Worms, for example, inhabit a non-seeing environment. Always underground. So they never evolved eyes. Why? The conditions they thrive in don't call for eyes. But if you put a worm in an environment (such ours) where eyes are required, it cannot possibly survive for very long.

Likewise if you took a human and placed it in an environment underground where eyes were useless, the human would not be able to survive for very long.



But a dead body is still life, per se. So, in fact, non-living matter does produce life.
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Then why doesn't a dead body become alive again?
 
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Parsimony

Well-Known Member
Susanpalli said:
After researching the subject, I have come to conclude that Evolution is still a theory, because science has till now has been unable to prove that life can spring from non-living molecules. Even in a laboratory, under controlled conditions, man has never been able to create living material.

Has anyone other evidence?
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Evolution does not hinge upon abiogenesis. If God supernaturally created the first living cells, then evolution can work with that just as well.
 
metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Why is it in Genesis did it take God supposedly 6 days to create all? He couldn't have done it in 1 day? 1 hour? 1 second?
 
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Parsimony

Well-Known Member
disciple said:
What would be the point of that? Why not just make the creation..
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I don't know why God chose the make the world the way that He did. Maybe we can ask God when we die. My statement is still true: any mechanism that can bring life into existence, be it natural or supernatural, is sufficient for evolution to begin.
 
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Susanpalli,JW

Member
metis said:
Why is it in Genesis did it take God supposedly 6 days to create all? He couldn't have done it in 1 day? 1 hour? 1 second?
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If we look at other passages, a day can mean an epoch, such as the day of Judgement which lasts 1000 years. It seems reasonable to believe that each day in Genesis represents a certain period of time.
 
metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Susanpalli said:
If we look at other passages, a day can mean an epoch, such as the day of Judgement which lasts 1000 years. It seems reasonable to believe that each day in Genesis represents a certain period of time.
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Yes, that has been theorized and is at least hypothetically possible. However, I lean more towards these accounts being allegory, and there's really good reason to lean in that direction.
 
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