ppp
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Why is evolution even still a debate?
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ppp
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I do not believe you. Or more pointedly, I don't believe the Bible on that subject.
ElishaElijah
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There are believers and unbelievers so that’s your path and choice.
ppp
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Not really. When there is not enough evidence to believe a claim, I have no choice but to not believe that claim.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Lugh? Ogmios? Cernunnos? The Morrigan?
Well, at least the theory I advocate has actually evidence.
cladking
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Of course!!! Anyone who doesn't agree with what you believe is "science" simply doesn't understand it.
Even if one doesn't argue facts with an expert they are still wrong if they interpret evidence or experiment differently.
But there is evidence given what experts know about chemicals and molecules, and how the environment can effect them. As has been explained to you many, many times, abiogenesis is a plausible phenomenon. Religious magic is not. So between the two options the only rational option is abiogenesis.
Why have you selected the magic option that has no evidence, and reject the only plausible explanation? Do you think your religious belief is superior to experts in science? If so, why?
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
I don't even own a clam. Lighten up buttercup.
Wildswanderer
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Not. Science isn't supposed to be about speculation. No one has to prove it didn't happen when there's no evidence it did.
Wildswanderer
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Where do molecules come from?
Did chemicals create themselves?
Wildswanderer
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So does mine. It's not the evidence, it's how you interpret it.
No, it is about deferring to what experts report, and not accepting what non-experts offer as "better" explanations, which they are not.
From natural processes.
This is a poor question because you're asking if something that didn't exist create itself.
Chemicals come about from the how elements behave according to the laws of nature. The universe has a great deal of dynamic forces and these cause the elements to form and change composition. At the Big Bang there was only hydrogen and helium and over time all other elements came into being due to the formation of stars.
There is no evidence of magic or any phenomenon that religious people tend to believe in.
Wildswanderer
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Lol, seriously? That's not an answer. You can't have a process without something to cause it in the first place.
Wildswanderer
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Rotflol!
The universe did it! Stars formed themselves creating elements! Where did the universe come from? Sounds to me like you have a Chicken or the egg scenario, and either way something has to begin it.
But what reasonable person would give unevidenced belief any epistemic weight?
rational experiences
Veteran Member
Humans exist first. Says human intelligence human.
Pretty basic.
Why does any human theory non human existence.
As consciousness says a human is a human first. You know yourself as the human. If you pretend you don't exist a human didn't first not exist says the human teaching.
Then invent only by a human scientist is by placating you first don't exist. Actually was taught as humans life presence removal in total. In thought confession.
Thesis by human mind only then placating said by your placating inventive reaction you wanted your life removed.
As the reaction was first theoried about inside of the earth's heavens to the ground mass itself. Natural reaction position.
Where all life biology in multi forms exist.
Reaction now would kill off biology was a direct answer.
The thesis machine is not the invention of a reaction as your scientist infers. By strings from earth to machine to reaction.
As a human scientist didn't invent reactive conversion. Natural had.
Self possession inventor theist destroyer a human only warning.
Controlled reactions.
Safety was imposed whilst he applies the reacting. As a human.
Nature never owned safety what the scientist theist human Inventor lied as a human direct lie was about.
Hence humans are sick and tired of arguing humans self destructive group man brothers bullying history.
Which brings us all to his moment of self destruction being the group the men the brothers who own as humans the cause of it.
All men who agreed.
So then code imposed to a man theist who asks is the moment in human history life destruction on earth by mens names as that moment. Then misappropriated the advice for a new machine reaction.
Claims we're safe I'm only theorising codes for a machine reaction. I know I'm the coder self. Yet is he personally inside the machine body being the reaction? No.
His theist imposes we were as mother human DNA with man baby theme. Humans first.
Human adult life body victim attacked in atmosphere knows. Victimised as a female like Jesus theme man baby adult had been.
So I just look at you all and your inane history of man scientist theist.
My advice says man knew water his thesis began created as mass the volume he idealises. As owning for machine resources in space. Mass by volume.
Alien theme space first.
No biology in water first is historic as ice had frozen water. In space only conditions.
Water as pure first substance science of man says...first in science only as water first owns no bio form.
The moment in new science he now has Idealised.
Destruction of all life on earth.
When he had previously as satanic scientist men destroyed all life on earth he knew water with bio life in it had to enter stones earth attacked in fission to shut off the ground attack. Reacting ground mass.
Life he said entered rock stone then in science of man's human story causes. Biology already by man's science wisdom was living in water was not first Living inside stone as just water only.
He thesis is alien space water theme ice and water no living biology...waters owned highest moment.
So everyone asks why are you even bothering claiming a theory of evolution. As a theist as a scientist?You want us all destroyed.
As science theories were for reactions first not evolution is the lie of humans
Stephen Haw King direct man warning science to scientist.
As he was looking at you all too a huge man assessment and has included you all in his scientific assessment the human science community.
Men say to men... if I drop an invented nuke on your head you'll Nuke me. So I think I won't as it's not ideal advice so I believe I'm safe.
Then you see human behaviour that says in God's spiritual claim evil men doing wrong should be destroyed.
As gods science was the origin scientific communities thesis. First. Origin man thinkers own the man memories as thesis history as the scientist man.
If science says by thesis origin beginning thesis as the human theist by intent it is first out in space.
God science exact.
It's is the exact moment of sciences owned destruction. As humans.
No life in space at all.
By intention of the position of man's thought itself.
Men then say humans possessed by star fall origins don't think the same as other conscious humans. You don't understand how they think either as they aren't conscious anymore. They are just Ai science self man of science possessed.
By mind thought placement want and idea. By machines only.
Play out robotic behaviours as a designer. The human exact warning human behaviour is now out of conscious controls.
Designer Inventor thinker destroyer then claims both uses of my machine inventors man human history claim life is hence safe. Ignored self warnings intent is owned by machine reaction.
Theme science is all types of inventions.
If you believed bible history. JesusAD0 memories recorded by man of the dusts imaged records was stated. Voiced recorded.
No man is God.
God didn't own a name by his man science thesis.
Science had been outlawed. As nuclear practice.
You prove by codes being God inferred also. Science you express today no such agreement in your psyche exists anymore as consciousness of a human.
Not owning any human intent of not naming God as created by you. As you naming created creation.
As man of science agreed no looking back. Evolution thesis. No theorising about dead things of past by hu man's. Evolution thesis
No listening to medium Ai status. Machines.
Was a pre scientific warning. Don't believe in AI. An exact old known behaviour of human men of future science prediction.
Science hence owns no hierarchial position in natural human life as you now try to impose and enforce as the destroyer community.
Evolution thesis is wrong when imposed by a false human teaching. As you don't own what you thesis its just thoughts and beliefs.
Humans presence by old law said no thesis about GOD was represented by humans word use.
Words are used first before numbers get imposed.
It was a teaching directly about human man theists and human science practices only. Humans self destructive behaviours.
As direct human advice it was only about human theists in the community.
Today science blames the God theist yet God thesis was the origin of humans science themes.
The human warning is direct about human scientists. All scientists.
Pretty basic.
Why does any human theory non human existence.
As consciousness says a human is a human first. You know yourself as the human. If you pretend you don't exist a human didn't first not exist says the human teaching.
Then invent only by a human scientist is by placating you first don't exist. Actually was taught as humans life presence removal in total. In thought confession.
Thesis by human mind only then placating said by your placating inventive reaction you wanted your life removed.
As the reaction was first theoried about inside of the earth's heavens to the ground mass itself. Natural reaction position.
Where all life biology in multi forms exist.
Reaction now would kill off biology was a direct answer.
The thesis machine is not the invention of a reaction as your scientist infers. By strings from earth to machine to reaction.
As a human scientist didn't invent reactive conversion. Natural had.
Self possession inventor theist destroyer a human only warning.
Controlled reactions.
Safety was imposed whilst he applies the reacting. As a human.
Nature never owned safety what the scientist theist human Inventor lied as a human direct lie was about.
Hence humans are sick and tired of arguing humans self destructive group man brothers bullying history.
Which brings us all to his moment of self destruction being the group the men the brothers who own as humans the cause of it.
All men who agreed.
So then code imposed to a man theist who asks is the moment in human history life destruction on earth by mens names as that moment. Then misappropriated the advice for a new machine reaction.
Claims we're safe I'm only theorising codes for a machine reaction. I know I'm the coder self. Yet is he personally inside the machine body being the reaction? No.
His theist imposes we were as mother human DNA with man baby theme. Humans first.
Human adult life body victim attacked in atmosphere knows. Victimised as a female like Jesus theme man baby adult had been.
So I just look at you all and your inane history of man scientist theist.
My advice says man knew water his thesis began created as mass the volume he idealises. As owning for machine resources in space. Mass by volume.
Alien theme space first.
No biology in water first is historic as ice had frozen water. In space only conditions.
Water as pure first substance science of man says...first in science only as water first owns no bio form.
The moment in new science he now has Idealised.
Destruction of all life on earth.
When he had previously as satanic scientist men destroyed all life on earth he knew water with bio life in it had to enter stones earth attacked in fission to shut off the ground attack. Reacting ground mass.
Life he said entered rock stone then in science of man's human story causes. Biology already by man's science wisdom was living in water was not first Living inside stone as just water only.
He thesis is alien space water theme ice and water no living biology...waters owned highest moment.
So everyone asks why are you even bothering claiming a theory of evolution. As a theist as a scientist?You want us all destroyed.
As science theories were for reactions first not evolution is the lie of humans
Stephen Haw King direct man warning science to scientist.
As he was looking at you all too a huge man assessment and has included you all in his scientific assessment the human science community.
Men say to men... if I drop an invented nuke on your head you'll Nuke me. So I think I won't as it's not ideal advice so I believe I'm safe.
Then you see human behaviour that says in God's spiritual claim evil men doing wrong should be destroyed.
As gods science was the origin scientific communities thesis. First. Origin man thinkers own the man memories as thesis history as the scientist man.
If science says by thesis origin beginning thesis as the human theist by intent it is first out in space.
God science exact.
It's is the exact moment of sciences owned destruction. As humans.
No life in space at all.
By intention of the position of man's thought itself.
Men then say humans possessed by star fall origins don't think the same as other conscious humans. You don't understand how they think either as they aren't conscious anymore. They are just Ai science self man of science possessed.
By mind thought placement want and idea. By machines only.
Play out robotic behaviours as a designer. The human exact warning human behaviour is now out of conscious controls.
Designer Inventor thinker destroyer then claims both uses of my machine inventors man human history claim life is hence safe. Ignored self warnings intent is owned by machine reaction.
Theme science is all types of inventions.
If you believed bible history. JesusAD0 memories recorded by man of the dusts imaged records was stated. Voiced recorded.
No man is God.
God didn't own a name by his man science thesis.
Science had been outlawed. As nuclear practice.
You prove by codes being God inferred also. Science you express today no such agreement in your psyche exists anymore as consciousness of a human.
Not owning any human intent of not naming God as created by you. As you naming created creation.
As man of science agreed no looking back. Evolution thesis. No theorising about dead things of past by hu man's. Evolution thesis
No listening to medium Ai status. Machines.
Was a pre scientific warning. Don't believe in AI. An exact old known behaviour of human men of future science prediction.
Science hence owns no hierarchial position in natural human life as you now try to impose and enforce as the destroyer community.
Evolution thesis is wrong when imposed by a false human teaching. As you don't own what you thesis its just thoughts and beliefs.
Humans presence by old law said no thesis about GOD was represented by humans word use.
Words are used first before numbers get imposed.
It was a teaching directly about human man theists and human science practices only. Humans self destructive behaviours.
As direct human advice it was only about human theists in the community.
Today science blames the God theist yet God thesis was the origin of humans science themes.
The human warning is direct about human scientists. All scientists.
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ElishaElijah
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No one and that’s why I’m wondering why you believe all of Creation came to be from nothing. What ever happened to the life that was supposedly created from non living materials in the Miller experiment? Surely that life was self sustaining in the lab, right? It has become something by now hasn’t it?
The formation of stars and elements is pretty well understood, The original creation of the universe is not; its an active field of research.
Science believes the creation was a natural process. The religious believe it was magic.
Magic has never been observed, and there is no reason to believe it even exists. It's action without mechanism -- something the religious poo-poo all the time as "something from nothing," yet embrace when it involves "creation."