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Why is Islam so dangerous?

Audie

Veteran Member
You are accusing Muhammad regarding caravans. I’m asking you to provide me with evidence from the Quran which was eye witness first hand records of events that happened for 23 years of the history of Islam.

You need to back up your claims from the Quran as it is the ONLY authority accepted by all Muslims and is the ONLY Word of God.

I suspect you get your information from rumours and Hadiths which have been proven time and again to be fraudulent and if a Hadith contradicts the Quran then the Quran triumphs any Hadith.

The Quran says Muhammad was an example to mankind. So unless you can quote a verse in the Quran supporting your accusations I assume you are relying on baseless Hadiths which even the Quran condemns and I can provide the Sura for that.

Quran verse please that says Muhammad acted dishonestly.

You either have it or you don’t but you must put up or your accusations are baseless because the Quran is the EARLIEST EYE WITNESS accounts of what happened during the 23 years you are referring to.

Quote verse please.

What a marvellous witness you would be!
You impeach your own testimony.

You suspect I get my info from Hadiths???
What outlandish bs. I got all of it from you.
So now after all your excuses for
murder and theft from the innocent, you say
the (your) stories are fraudulent?

Put you on the stand and any lawyer would
shred you, and you would be held up to all
for ridivule.


And yet again, yet again, you try to point the finger at me,
now making up something for me to have "accused"
mohammed of,.

Have you no sense of right and wrong, true or false,
bearing false witness?
I SAID ZERO OF WHAT HE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE DONE

You sure have a hard time taking adult responsibility for
yourself.

Did you forget you quoted the koran verses about not attacking?
Then told about attacking caravans?

Then I asked how to reconcile?

If you have an honest bone in your body, quit changing
the subject, making things uo etc.

Just explain it how the mentality of attacking inmocent
peaceful merchants was different from the mentality of 911.

So far you are showing how they thought it just and good.

Keep it up, we need people like you to show "Islam" for what it is.
 
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loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
What a marvellous witness you would be!
You impeach your own testimony.

You suspect I get my info from Hadiths??? What outlandish
bs. I got all of it from you. So now after all your excuses fot
murder and theft from the innkcent, you say the (your) stories
were not true.

Put you on the stand and any lawyer would shred you, and you
would be held up to all for ridicle-or worse.


And yet again, yet again, you try to point the finger at me, now making up
something for me to have "accused" mohammed of,. Have you
no sense of right and wrong, true or false, bearing false witness?
I SAID ZERO OF WHAT HE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE DONE

You sure have a hard time taking adult responsibility for
yourself.

Did you forget you quoted the moran verses about not attacking?
Then told about attacking caravans?

Then I asked how to reconcile?

If you have an honest bone in your body, quit changing
the subject, making things uo etc.

Just explain it how the mentality of attacking inmocent
peaceful merchants was different from the entality of 911.

So far you are showing how they thought it just and good.

Keep it up, we need people like you to show "Islam" for what it is.

I asked you to find me quotes about Muhammad attacking unarmed caravans. That was my answer. The quote 2:190 is about war and fighting but you mentioned caravans.

You were claiming He attacked caravans with swords, unarmed innocent people so I asked you to show me where in the Quran it is recorded that unarmed innocent people just earning their living were attacked.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Are you under the impression Muhammad only fought in self defense?

Apparently going out to attack merchant caravans of
"the enemy" is self defense.

It is like the USA attacking Iraq, or Japan bombing pearl
harbour, or any other self justified act of aggression ever.

Always hidden under noble words, and with gods blessing.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
I asked you to find me quotes about Muhammad attacking unarmed caravans. That was my answer. The quote 2:190 is about war and fighting but you mentioned caravans.

You were claiming He attacked caravans with swords, unarmed innocent people so I asked you to show me where in the Quran it is recorded that unarmed innocent people just earning their living were attacked.

YOU brought up caravans and "Mohammed".
You. You. Not me.

Keep it up, you and your islam are on full
display for what you are.

I am done, you cannot find one honest bone
in yourself.
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
It appears to bother you when asked to give a direct answer to the question.

Just thought that what I believe maybe bothers you so I don’t want you to be bothered. I also believe in Jesus so you don’t have to worry about me giving my life to Him because I already accept Him as my Lord and Saviour.
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
YOU brought up caravans and "Mohammed".
You. You. Not me.

Keep it up, you and your islam are on full
display for what you are.

I am done, you cannot find one honest bone
in yourself.

There must be a misunderstanding here because I only remember bringing up Sura 2:190 to show it was self defense but not caravans. maybe it was the other poster who mentioned it I can’t remember.
 

FragrantGrace

If winning isn't everything why do they keep score
I asked you to find me quotes about Muhammad attacking unarmed caravans. That was my answer. The quote 2:190 is about war and fighting but you mentioned caravans.

You were claiming He attacked caravans with swords, unarmed innocent people so I asked you to show me where in the Quran it is recorded that unarmed innocent people just earning their living were attacked.

Thank you for this post.
You are a fake.
Now it is obvious. The Qur'an would contain no such thing. As anyone who claims to know the Qur'an would not make the mistake you just did asking the question you just did. Now I know why you answered my question about Muhammad with a question. You do not know.

Muhammad's biographer, Muḥammad ibn Isḥāq ibn Yasār ibn Khiyār, gave account of attacks on merchant caravans. Muslims engaged in this shaved their heads prior so as to appear inconspicuous as mere merchants.

The battle of Badr was accounted in the Biographies of Muhammad later and in Muhammad's own Hadith.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
There must be a misunderstanding here because I only remember bringing up Sura 2:190 to show it was self defense but not caravans. maybe it was the other poster who mentioned it I can’t remember.
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I think you are unwell. A doctor might be able
to help.
 

Riders

Well-Known Member
I don't care much about religion.
I'm not against any religion, don't get me wrong.
I even believe religious people (Christians mainly because I grew up among them) are good people. They seem to be genuinely loving people.
I cannot speak much about other religions on a personal level because I don't make many friends that are not Christians or Atheists. Not my choice, it just happens that way.
Like many people, I have spent many hours researching on Islam after 9/11 happened.
I live in New York City so that was very close to me.
My research findings tell me Islam is a very dangerous religion.
The closer Islam gets to you the more dangerous it gets.
That seems to be a fact.
I know that Muslims are going to ask me to prove it from the scriptures and that is a ridiculous request.
There are 52 or 53 Muslim countries in the world and I can assure you that any of them has some sort of religious tension, wars or religious related violence in them.
I can quickly come up with links to prove it.
Most of the world is still Christian majority and today you rarely will find religion related violence in them.
The question is why?
Is there any hope that this pattern is going to change?
Is there some kind of Islamic reform possible?
Is war against Islam inevitable?

I have 2 Muslim friends one who is my taxi driver the other one is my driver for logisticare free rides I get to the drs office from Medicaid.. Malik my taxi driver has even tried to set me up with people and told me a tiny bit about the Muslim faith too, hes a sweet guy.

I got an interesting question for you ROTFLMAO! See if you can answer this. What religion forces their women to all covered up like teh Amish long dresses only. hair pulled back, they cant trim or cut their hair and no makeup or jewelry, and have to wear long sleeves and no open toes shoes, no panty hose,and believe their Godhead is the only way to go to heaven and their customs are the only ones>
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
Thank you for this post.
You are a fake.
Now it is obvious. The Qur'an would contain no such thing. As anyone who claims to know the Qur'an would not make the mistake you just did asking the question you just did. Now I know why you answered my question about Muhammad with a question. You do not know.

Muhammad's biographer, Muḥammad ibn Isḥāq ibn Yasār ibn Khiyār, gave account of attacks on merchant caravans. Muslims engaged in this shaved their heads prior so as to appear inconspicuous as mere merchants.

The battle of Badr was accounted in the Biographies of Muhammad later and in Muhammad's own Hadith.

Hadiths are not the Word of God. The Quran is and it clearly it stands up for His impeccable character. Like Jesus, Muhammad was a Perfect Being and free from sin. That is my belief.
 
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Riders

Well-Known Member
Oh goody, then you'll be quite busy compiling that list of those Alot.


Terrorism in the United States - Wikipedia

This article says 2017 the 85 terrorist attacks in America 23 were from Islamist and 65 from right winged extremist groups, usually that refers to extreme racist militias and skinheads and other white supremists who all claim to be Christian.

The next thing youll be saying is they dont count as Christian and my response is the Jihad is not a true representation of the Muslims.

The religion I was speaking of with all the sexist rules of dress code for women and their God is the only God is the United Pentecostal church who believes they are the only ones who baptise the right way they're the only ones going to heaven, basically the Christian version of the Jihad.
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
Apparently going out to attack merchant caravans of
"the enemy" is self defense.

It is like the USA attacking Iraq, or Japan bombing pearl
harbour, or any other self justified act of aggression ever.

Always hidden under noble words, and with gods blessing.

This is your post mentioning merchant caravans not mine. But it’s not my conversation. My understanding is you already brought it up , I just commented on it.
 
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