"Why Is It That Atheists Don't Believe In God?"

[Trailblazer]

I was a simple human being who studied and corresponded with God through surrender to Him and finding out what I needed to do in surviving intense persecution in the United Kingdom. Through the course of this discourse attained through the path of satya-advaita or truth accommodation, I found that I was God because I instinctively knew what to do in order to survive the most horrendous persecution launched against me by the United Kingdom State, and survive to tell the tale.

I think that when we completely surrender to God, we get help. I have experienced this myself.

Why were you being persecuted, for your beliefs?

Don't you think that others have survived horrendous persecution? Perhaps they got assistance from God but they did not claim to be God.

 

[Trailblazer]

Just do a search online for Ashera or Asheera God's wife. "in Israelite folk religion of the monarchal period, Asherah functioned as a goddess and consort of Yahweh and was worshiped as the Queen of Heaven, for whose festival the Hebrews baked small cakes." Asherah - Wikipedia Maybe nobody told Bahá’u’lláh?

You can find just about anything online but that does not mean it is true.

 

[Salvador]

For an "agnostic", you sure seem to believe some weird stuff. To each their own I guess.

My belief in directed panspermia is no weirder than believing in a virgin giving birth or believing in a talking snake. ...You're right though, to each their own....

 

[stvdv]

Sound reasonable to you? It does to me.

I do experience a higher power I can tune in to, and receive wisdom from

I do not equate that to God as pictured in the Bible (with hell and doom etc)

 

[LuisDantas]

And your point is?

That you are talking nonsense and seem not to realize it.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

I wouldn't say they don't believe in God.

Ask Doctors why they fight disease.

Ask Police why they fight crime.

Ask Plumbers why they are always fixing sewer pipes...

 

[Trailblazer]

I wouldn't say they don't believe in God.

Darn, I was hoping there would be a video to watch.
Welcome aboard the RF ship.

 

[LuisDantas]

I wouldn't say they don't believe in God.

What we actually fight is the pressure to pretend to be what we are not.

Besides, you are melting strong atheism with weak atheism.

People have a right to refuse to lie about their stance towards god-beliefs, you know.

 

[Trailblazer]

What we actually fight is the pressure to pretend to be what we are not.

Besides, you are melting strong atheism with weak atheism.

People have a right to refuse to lie about their stance towards god-beliefs, you know.

I do not think that is what the poster meant.
I think he meant fighting against the god that does not exist, as in saying the omnipotent god is responsible for all evil and suffering and thus the god itself is evil or immoral.

I have not seen you doing that so you are just being you, nothing wrong with that.
In fact, you should never pretend to BE anyone you are NOT.

 

[LuisDantas]

I do not think that is what the poster meant.
I think he meant fighting against the god that does not exist, as in saying the omnipotent god is responsible for all evil and suffering and thus the god itself is evil or immoral.

Why would he mean such a thing? It makes no sense even on its own terms, after all.

 

[blü 2]

I too strongly feel a lot on many of the issues you mentioned and for me personally I believe I’ve found a way to bring about transformation of society. But sadly it cannot be done through current systems as they havecbecimevcirruoted by greed and self interest.

Now, building a new world civilization involving the transformation of the individual and society I see as very possible and I believe as humanity matured we will eventually enter a golden age of peace and unity never dreamed of. Humanity has a glorious future awaiting it even though her immediate future is distressingly dark.

I too am optimistic, even though we and out grandchildren face a colossal bill for the present government idiocy ignoring global warming. I think humans overall, given a fair chance, are basically more decent, more honest, more altruistic, than not; that education opens doors; and that a meaningful level of accountability for market-place behavior may be possible in future.

And maybe there's a bit of evidence to support that view. Anyhow, we'll see, believers and other both. Good luck to us all.

 

[Trailblazer]

Why would he mean such a thing? It makes no sense even on its own terms, after all.

You do not read any posts from Bob the Unbeliever and Subduction Zone?
The evil, immoral god.......
No, it makes no sense.

 

[LuisDantas]

You do not read any posts from Bob the Unbeliever and Subduction Zone?
The evil, immoral god.......
No, it makes no sense.

I think you both are missing the point entirely, sorry.

 

[Trailblazer]

I think you both are missing the point entirely, sorry.

What is the point?

 

[LuisDantas]

What is the point?

At its most basic, that you can't seriously accuse atheists of "fighting that which they do not believe to exist".

Atheists, even strong atheists, never find themselves doing such a thing. Such a claim only makes people appear dishonest or worse.

Theism exists, and religious abuse exists. Atheists often challenge those, in no small part because they do, in fact, exist.

 

[Trailblazer]

At its most basic, that you can't seriously accuse atheists of "fighting that which they do not believe to exist".

I can when they do it.

Atheists, even strong atheists, never find themselves doing such a thing. Such a claim only makes people appear dishonest or worse.

Then they should not be doing it.

Theism exists, and religious abuse exists. Atheists often challenge those, in no small part because they do, in fact, exist.

That is fine to attack theism and religion, but atheists cannot attack the god that they do not believe exists without expecting to incur consequences from the God that does exist.

 

[LuisDantas]

I can when they do it.

Then they should not be doing it.

Again, you are missing the point entirely.

You can't denounce something that never happens because it is logically impossible.

And you definitely can't convince atheists to repent from doing something that we know to be impossible and to be unrelated to us.

That is fine to attack theism and religion, but atheists cannot attack the god that they do not believe exists without expecting to incur consequences from the God that does exist.

Are you seriously accusing some atheits of "attacking gods"?

We do not waste our time like that.

 

[Trailblazer]

Again, you are missing the point entirely.

You can't denounce something that never happens because it is logically impossible.

Who said these atheists are logical?

And you definitely can't convince atheists to repent from doing something that we know to be impossible and to be unrelated to us.

The minute you start accusing God of stuff, it IS related to you.
The real God hears this stuff, all of it.

Are you seriously accusing some atheits of "attacking gods"?

You can bet your sweet bippy I am. I only report what I read.

We do not waste our time like that.

You don't and most atheists don't, but some atheists do.
Using the g instead of the G does not get them off the hook.

 

[Shantanu]

I think that when we completely surrender to God, we get help. I have experienced this myself.

Why were you being persecuted, for your beliefs?

Don't you think that others have survived horrendous persecution? Perhaps they got assistance from God but they did not claim to be God.

You are right, that when we surrender to God we get help. I have concrete proof of that personally.
As to why I was persecuted it is because I challenged the UK authorities in a matter of conscience that the citizen has a right to expect justice from the State and that this was a nation of morons in a police state. The Police State denied the citizen this human right. It started when I was sacked for gross misconduct by my employers because I wanted justice against discrimination at the workplace in career development, and the UK State was not geared up for providing that justice. From a great scientist who published 35 scientific papers in international journals and had secured three promotions I was rendered into a life of poverty and could never recover my scientific career. It raised questions within me as to the desirability of having this State continuing to exist as it has done for hundreds of years. So I searched for the precise mechanism by which injustices were perpetrated by the State by issuing court proceedings incessantly. This angered the authorities and they persecuted me by trying to force me to leave the country and go to India, sending me into mental hospitals and when out forcing antipsychotic and antidepressant medications on me to control my behaviour. That is how the persecution was implemented by the State authorities.

I was determined to stay put in the United Kingdom because when I had sought asylum the countries that I had approached were manipulated not to give me asylum. I had no choice but to stay in the United Kingdom and fight the injustices. This is when I sought help from God and He provided me the precise methods that I used to fight the State authorities with. I was not going to go anywhere but remain in the United Kingdom and Blog my experiences as the only form of justice that I could muster (google Shantanu Panigrahi's Blog: Towards Knowledge for World Conservation to read more).

I practised yoga to secure God's help and in doing so I realised that I was infallible, impeccable and faultless and perfect in the manner by which I was acting to survive the persecution so I questioned whether there was any difference between me and God by coming off the method that I used to check for messages from God. This method was using a digital clock where clock sightings of the No 7 (3.22, 6.10, 4.21, 9.07, 10.33, etc) meant that God was asking me to send a missile at the criminals that the State was using to persecute me. When I saw that I was able to have the right thoughts that continued my resistance to the State-organised persecution, I knew that I was God Itself living a human life.

 

[LuisDantas]

Who said these atheists are logical?

Who said they exist?

The minute you start accusing God of stuff, it IS related to you.

I think that you are mistaking arguments that point out why certain god-concepts are logically inconsistent with actual belief in the existence of the entities thereby described.

The real God hears this stuff, all of it.

You can bet your sweet bippy I am. I only report what I read.

You don't and most atheists don't, but some atheists do.
Using the g instead of the G does not get them off the hook.

Seriously, you and @MonkeyFire both are very confused if you truly believe in that.

This is some serious, if apparently unconscious, strawman.