Why is Satan bad?

[MoonWater]

His so-called "enlightenment" led to the Fall of mankind. I'm not sure I like that kind of "enlightenment."

You may not like it but I know I do. True I have no idea what life would truly have been like had I been born and raised in Eden. However I do know, or am least pretty certain, that "pursuit of knowledge" would not be a common hobby in Eden, especially when you consider that we were forbidden to partake of the tree of knowledge. Now pursuing knowledge is my life. And I don't just mean learning facts, that bores me to tears, but learning about the obscure and the unknown. I love learning about the many different religions of the world and how they affect people and how people integrate their religion into their daily lives. Beyond that I am interested in morality and ethics, why certain things are considered right and wrong and how this came to be so. I guess you could say the knowledge I seek IS the "knowledge of good and evil", the very knowledge forbidden us by God but opened to us by Lucifer. Now perhaps this knowledge did cause us to fall but I, at least, am glad for it. For my pursuit of the "knowledge of good and evil" is just as much apart of me as my writing, or the love in my heart. If that were taken away I would not truly be me. So while others may disagree I personally wish to shake Lucifer's hand for giving me the chance to be myself.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

To think that Satan has only killed 7 people in biblical times seems ridiculous to me.

I find it too be a very valid point that shows something. God kills people for not behaving, yet Satan, who is called "The Enemy" killed fewer people than most serial killers.

Furthermore, How Jesus died so that we can receive salvation seems irrelevant.

Why is it irrelevant? Because it's the way God chose to do it? Sure an omnipotent god could have come up with a much less violent plan to Salvation than sending his own son into a lion's den.

To destroy human life robs God of that glory. I can't help but see that Satan is partially to blame when you see serial killers, genocide, and even less conspicuous forms of evil.

Then why did God destroy all living things, save for a handful, during the flood? Why was Sodom and Gomorrah destroyed, and Lot's wife turned to salt? Jonah was eaten by a whale. And even one poor man was killed, by God, for masturbating. God seems to rob himself of alot of glory.
God even allowed Satan to put Job threw hell just to prove a point. It seems rather cruel just to inflate your ego abit.

 

[Darkness]

You seem to hold Satan/Lucifer in such high regard. Tell me if you know so much about him, where are his inspired writings that I can learn what his will is for me?

In Praise of the Devil is a good place to begin. Then I suggest you read the Revelation of Lucifer the Divine.

Where does he teach that he loves me so much and is willing to die for me?

Lucifer rebelled against God and all of Heaven for freedom and to free Adam and Eve from the prison of Eden (a Gnostic-like interpretation). I would say Lucifer risked his life to help us.

Am I on the earth for his purposes? To advance his kingdom? Is he here to bring meaning and happiness to my life?

No, no, and no! Lucifer is not for the ones who do not wish to be independent beings. He is not for slaves! You want purpose, you want a kingdom, you want happiness? What you don't realize is that you have the power. You have the power to create all of those things! That is Lucifer's gift to mankind.

Maybe you don't see the God of the bible like I do but until you give me something besides your anti-God projections summed up into your symbolic Satan, I can't take what you say too seriously.

That is your choice.

 

[MoonWater]

In Praise of the Devil is a good place to begin. Then I suggest you read the Revelation of Lucifer the Divine.

Do you know where I could pick up a copy of each of those books? They don't seem to be available at my library and I'm interested in taking a look at them.

 

[Popeyesays]

The question implies that "Satan" is an entity.

I know better than that.

Regards,
Scott

 

[MoonWater]

Who knows, perhaps lucifer had plans to bring knowledge to ALL creatures. Not to simply stop at humans but bring other species to eat from the tree of knowledge as well but God banished him before he got the chance.

A silk lined prison is still a prison. Despite the pain and suffering that is present I would rather spend a hundred years in this life than 1,000 in Eden. At least here I can do something worthwhile, pursue my dreams and live life my way. Things which I doubt I'd be able to do in Eden.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Do you know where I could pick up a copy of each of those books? They don't seem to be available at my library and I'm interested in taking a look at them.

I'm sure a Barnes & Nobles, Borders, or Books-a-Million could special order a copy if they don't have them in stock.

 

[Ringer]

Then I suggest you read the Revelation of Lucifer the Divine.

I'm supposed to believe that a man suffering from "paranoid schizophrenia" has written a book that has meaning to my life? I'm not trying to sound facetious. It's an honest question. As for the other book you mentioned, I couldn't find it on B&N or Amazon. I'll have to do a little more looking.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

You seem to hold Satan/Lucifer in such high regard. Tell me if you know so much about him, where are his inspired writings that I can learn what his will is for me? Where does he teach that he loves me so much and is willing to die for me? Am I on the earth for his purposes? To advance his kingdom? Is he here to bring meaning and happiness to my life? Maybe you don't see the God of the bible like I do but until you give me something besides your anti-God projections summed up into your symbolic Satan, I can't take what you say too seriously.

Satan is the liberator of mankind, and a freedom fighter. He also does not need, nor want, to be worshiped. Because of him, we have the ability to think and make choices. Because of Satan's acts, we have the power to bring ourselves meaning and happiness. He does not wish people to bing themselves to him, as that is not what he fights for, nor wishes upon anyone. He fought for us to be free, and not be bound to any religious dogma.

Why is it a Christian man more trust worthy than a man who believes in Satan. Please tell my why this is?

To answer this question, they are not necessarily more trust worthy. One of my friends is a Satanist, and is also the most trust worthy person I have ever met.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I'm supposed to believe that a man suffering from "paranoid schizophrenia" has written a book that has meaning to my life? I'm not trying to sound facetious. It's an honest question. As for the other book you mentioned, I couldn't find it on B&N or Amazon. I'll have to do a little more looking.

I'm sure at least one of the authors of the Bible had some form of mental disorders. And paranoid

 

[Kcnorwood]

His so-called "enlightenment" led to the Fall of mankind. I'm not sure I like that kind of "enlightenment."



Or the devil was merely appealing to our pride, knowing full well from his own experience what happens when you get too big for your britches......"pride goeth before a fall." It ain't no accident it's called the "Fall."

All sin/evil originates from pride. Think about it.

Which God himself created all of these things right? So who's to really blame? Sounds like your God is full of pride himself.

 

[Storm]

Do you know where I could pick up a copy of each of those books? They don't seem to be available at my library and I'm interested in taking a look at them.

I found Revelation of Lucifer the Divine at powells.com.

 

[cardero]

You gonna be happy saying that to God on judgement day?

Everyday is Judgment Day.

 

[cardero]

Thats a sad statement oviously you dont know
scripture ie Qur'an,
God Almighty out 0f His Mercy, and Wisdom,
even gave satan a choice to recognise the status
of man ie humans , but he was arogant and unjust
to himself.

As for the atrocities they are the obedience of man
to the whispers and sugestions of the devil.
What has that got to do with God?

But in the Bible (and someone has actually attempted to tally a body count) the total this person has reached (so far) that were murdered by God's hand comes to 2,270,265. Now I am not sure how you define Mercy and Wisdom or good and evil but these are very impressive numbers compared to the entity Satan, who has done...what- tempted and taunted someone in a desert and some others in a garden? Tempting and taunting I can handle, blasted to death by the hand of God is a little more difficult to recover from.

 

[cardero]

Likewise, God does not make Satan do anything and cannot be held responsible for Satan's actions.

1:9 Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?
1:10 Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land. God gives Satan permission to test Job's virtue
(Unknown, 1372)
1:11 But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face.
1:12 And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD.

Held responsible? In these verses, not only does God give Satan His power but also His permission.

 

[lamplighter]

I personally would stand before God and question all that it's done and everything it stands for but thats me and I value reason over blind acceptance. Now about this Satan fellow, he never once disobeyed god, killed fewer people, brought the power of knowledge to humanity, never have I heard anyone proclaim "Why, if I was ignorant, I would be better off!". Does anyone truly believe that all the answers to the unknowable are going to be conveniently handed to you in one neatly packaged book? Well thats your pride getting the best of you I'm afraid, nothing worth being gained comes easily even knowledge, there is a reason why so many don't blindly accept the Bible, it's because we want something more substantial than the words of men. The Bible certainly likes to bad mouth Satan, but what evidence do you have that he did something truly evil? When I was growing up and supposed to be believe the Bible I always thought even then that Satan was looked upon unfairly, I was always under the impression that Satan was misunderstood, only doing what god wished and therefor good by default and that people were just afraid because they didn't understand, like people always do, fear the unknown and because it was Satan's task to punish the wicked, a job given to him by God. Never really sounded as if Satan was doing anything bad there, someone has to punish the wrongs but why should that person be persecuted for treating others how they should be treated? And what of Job all Satan did was question how much faith he had, and god not only permitted Job to horrible suffering but basically made a bet with Satan as to how faithful Job was. Doesn't really come off to me as something a noble and just a God would do to his faithful followers.

 

[Darkness]

Do you know where I could pick up a copy of each of those books? They don't seem to be available at my library and I'm interested in taking a look at them.

In Praise of the Devil is actually an essay, written by an unknown author. (Click the title above to read it).

You can buy the Revelation of Lucifer the Divine on Barnes and Noble or you can Private Message me and I will give you a .pdf version.

I'm supposed to believe that a man suffering from "paranoid schizophrenia" has written a book that has meaning to my life? I'm not trying to sound facetious. It's an honest question. As for the other book you mentioned, I couldn't find it on B&N or Amazon. I'll have to do a little more looking.

For a paranoid schizophrenic, the book is pretty profound. And if you decide to read it, realize that it is not a Luciferian evangelical book. It is written almost like a novel and is not Anti-God.

 

[MoonWater]

In Praise of the Devil is actually an essay, written by an unknown author. (Click the title above to read it).

You can buy the Revelation of Lucifer the Divine on Barnes and Noble or you can Private Message me and I will give you a .pdf version.



For a paranoid schizophrenic, the book is pretty profound. And if you decide to read it, realize that it is not a Luciferian evangelical book. It is written almost like a novel and is not Anti-God.

Thanks for that. I think I'll go with barnes&noble though or see if I can a copy online. I never was to fond of the idea of reading books on a computer. Thanks for the offer though.

 

[capslockf9]

The first thing satan invented was religion. And in this he is bad.

 

[Grappleberry Punch]

I believe in Satan and I still do good things for people. Why is it a Christian man more trust worthy than a man who believes in Satan. Please tell my why this is?

Uh, a lot of Christiansbelieve in Satan, so this isn't a real question, and its a false dichotomy. Why is it that a Christian man is more trustworthy than a man who believes in Baptism? Answer my question, and then I'll answer yours.

Why is Satan bad, as in the title of your post? Well...why is he labeled "bad" first. Satan won't kill you, he won't hurt you physically, he, depending who you believe, <i>can't</i> do those things--but he'll eat away at the edges of your soul for so long that you'll kill yourself first. He causes depression, hopelessness, unfocused and insecure aggression, he causes people to become gullible, ignorant, apathetic and self-centered.

Second, why did he choose to be bad? Well, there are a few stories in the Bible, in the Qur'an, in other texts that give theories as to why this might be. Commonly, it is because he's an angel/dinn (again, depends on what you read) supremacist, who hates humans for being created in God's image. Some say he's just the absence of God, or some hateful, corrosive side of ourselves that we gained after the Fall...in that case, it would simply be his nature to be "bad".