Why is the Church of LDS of Jesus Christ the only denomination growing in the NZ Christian community

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Hi @danieldemol

If you think anything I say reflects on the most expert historians you are not very interested in an authentic representation of genuine expert historical research.

That IS the point @danieldemol

You were NEVER going to be able to give us credible examples nor create a historical narrative such as I have described that Joseph Smith created. Nor could Smith have done it without revelation. Nor can the finest and best religious historians do it. It's never been done in the way Smith was able to do it.

I simply knew that I could use your attempt (had you tried it) as an example of failure, and had planned to use the attempt to allow other readers to gain insight.

You voiced a religious opinion and offered your religious historical theory as to how such narratives could be created without revelation. Then, when I ask you to describe your theory and to support your opinion with data, you admit ignorance of data on the subject. If you cannot support your theory with any historical data and applied reasoning, then I don't see any reason to discuss your theory.

Do you want me to give you further examples?

In any case Danieldemol, I hope your own lifes journey is good and wonderful.


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Mormonism is not a cult. Its members are not brainwashed and can leave any time they want to. Get a life, pal.

I believe of course that you are still capable of reasoning beyond what you are taught but not everyone is. I will be glad to hear why you think Mormonism is not a cult. I am a reasonable person and try not to prejudge things. Sorry my life belongs to Jesus and I have no intention of taking it back.

 

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I believe of course that you are still capable of reasoning beyond what you are taught but not everyone is. I will be glad to hear why you think Mormonism is not a cult. I am a reasonable person and try not to prejudge things.

Don't try to put me on the defensive. You're the one who made the claim that Mormonism is a cult. It's up to you to substantiate that claim.

Sorry my life belongs to Jesus and I have no intention of taking it back.

That's nothing to apologize for. The only thing you have to apologize for is having to call it to my attention. That's something that should be evident without your having to point it out.

 

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I believe of course that you are still capable of reasoning beyond what you are taught but not everyone is. I will be glad to hear why you think Mormonism is not a cult. I am a reasonable person and try not to prejudge things. Sorry my life belongs to Jesus and I have no intention of taking it back.

Don't try to put me on the defensive. You're the one who made the claim that Mormonism is a cult. It's up to you to substantiate that claim.

That's nothing to apologize for. The only thing you have to apologize for is having to call it to my attention. That's something that should be evident without your having to point it out.

Hi @Katzpur

I do think that the anti-christian christians and the incessant criticism of other christianities contributes to individuals both leaving christianity and / or, looking for religious kindness and understanding, outside of christianity when they see the constant undermining and hypocrisy and arguing within and among Christian movements. It is counterproductive when one cult tries to prove others are cultish and that their own cult is better. At least I have athiest friends who describe their view of hypocrisy which raises their disinterest in investigating christianity for meaning and morals.

As a convert, myself, it feels like the criticisms voiced by one group, often, inadvertently become applied more fairly and more evenly applied to all christianities in the eyes of people who are investigating Christianity for meaning and morals. The mud slinging inevitably spatters.

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