Why is the eating of pork forbidden in Islam?

[Amill]

I wonder how many gay bashers and protesters eat ham sandwiches.

 

[conradxiong]

Woman: I think my husband is having an affair!

Friend: Does he eat pork???

Woman: .....

 

[kai]

If my wife sees this ?Thats it! no more bacon sandwiches for me.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Dietary restrictions, before the age of the refrigerator and freezer and efficient means of cooking, made a lot of sense.

However I don't believe for a moment that God had any thing to do with it, or said anything was unclean to eat.

we have come on a long way since the stone and bronze ages.

 

[Valjean]

Dietary restrictions, before the age of the refrigerator and freezer and efficient means of cooking, made a lot of sense.

However I don't believe for a moment that God had any thing to do with it, or said anything was unclean to eat.

we have come on a long way since the stone and bronze ages.

But pork is no less subject to rot than chevon, beef or mutton, and these were eaten extensively.

 

[YmirGF]

But pork is no less subject to rot than chevon, beef or mutton, and these were eaten extensively.

How dare you bring reason into this discussion, Seyorni. Have you no morals?

You see, some dusty old books say that pork is unclean and therefore forbidden. It's not like the books could be wrong.

 

[Bloomdido]

It's a good job the instruction to 'not step on the pavement cracks' isn't in any holy books, or to walk backwards when it's raining, or to pick up poisonous snakes. That last one would be really dangerous because there would be someone somewhere stupid enough to take it literally.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

It's a good job the instruction to 'not step on the pavement cracks' isn't in any holy books, or to walk backwards when it's raining, or to pick up poisonous snakes. That last one would be really dangerous because there would be someone somewhere stupid enough to take it literally.

Some strange christian sects already do play with snakes as they think they are protected by faith. Some die because they did not have enough faith.
So that is fair proof in my book.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

But pork is no less subject to rot than chevon, beef or mutton, and these were eaten extensively.

True ... I think the problem was that Pigs are so like humans that they suffer with the same worms and other bugs.

 

[Bloomdido]

Some strange christian sects already do play with snakes as they think they are protected by faith. Some die because they did not have enough faith.
So that is fair proof in my book.

I was using a little irony. There is a story here about children orphaned by parents playing with snakes in church. At least the parents won't be around to dilute the gene pool any further.

 

[arimoff]

Ha ha that is hilarious,

How dare you bring reason into this discussion, Seyorni. Have you no morals?

You see, some dusty old books say that pork is unclean and therefore forbidden. It's not like the books could be wrong.

Books can be wrong but this one hasn't been wrong yet.

 

[elisheba]

Maybe we are not supposed to eat them because there would be less of them which we need to keep the earth clean.

We are not supposed to be creating ANY garbage especially compost type trash.

 

[YmirGF]

Books can be wrong but this one hasn't been wrong yet.

Which book would that be?

 

[elisheba]

" Which book would that be? "


Pork is forbidden in the Tanakh, not eaten in the New Testament , and prohibited in the Quran.

 

[YmirGF]

Pork is forbidden in the Tanakh, not eaten in the New Testament , and prohibited in the Quran.

My question was in reference to "but this one hasn't been wrong yet". SO... which one isn't wrong?

 

[Zhakir]

zhakir has no idea what he is talking about, at all!!!. sure pigs are a dirty animal, but no need to call Americans pigs when you live around camels and "donkeys".

by the way we don't live in tents and take daily showers.

If some Americans switch wifes atleast they do it as a free choice and not by force using their believes to have 5 wifes.

Polygyny is permitted in Judaism. According to Talmudic law, Abraham had three wives, and Solomon had hundreds of wives. The practice of polygyny continued till Rabbi Gershom ben Yehudah (955 C.E to 1030 C.E) issued an edict against it. The Jewish Sephardic communities living in Muslim countries continued the practice till as late as 1950, until an Act of the Chief Rabbinate of Israel extended the ban on marrying more than one wife.In earlier times, Christian men were permitted as many wives as they wished, since the Bible puts no restriction on the number of wives. It was only a few centuries ago that the Church restricted the number of wives to one. --Off topic--
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Now is anyone who agrees with the eating of pork really ready to reply to what i said?
Just saying that i'm wrong or you are wrong without providing proofs doesn't always make us so.
My first comment is that sadly,no one really replied to the main issue of the transsmission of H1N1 virus .
In 1918 Swine flu pandemic it is estimated that anywhere from 50 to 100 million people were killed worldwide. here is the list till 2009 Swine influenza - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Now a days the ban on Pig farming is goining ahead through out the non-muslim world.Please Odion share with us some 2009 pictures of your wife volunteering in a pig farm,unless she doesn't know about the 2009 flu pandemic then i just need you to advise her.
Second thing,For Terriwoodendic and Odion I'm sorry if i harmed anyone's feelings.I know that many off you found it offensive and ignorant to present pork eaters as behaving like pigs.Please allow me to say that this is unjustified,because what a person eats has an effect on his behaviour.You see dear Kai and monta it's nothing funny.Food has effects on behavoir,Who is disagrees with that?! (More Info: http://www.nutrinfo.net/pdfs/bsc-project-summary.pdf )
This is the reason why do many vegetarians argue: Why do the non-vegetarians or why does Islam allow Muslims to eat non-vegetarian food, since eating of animals could make a person violent and ferocious and shameless?
For the Non-vegetarians who eat lions, tigers, leopards,Pigs etc The answer is...? You tell me.
For us Muslims we clearify that Islam only allows the eating of herbivorous animals like cow, goat, sheep, etc. that are peaceful and docile. We Muslims eat peaceful and docile animals because we are peace loving and non-violent people.
The Qur’an says:
"The Prophet commands them what is just and prohibits what is evil". "He allows them as lawful what is good (and pure) and prohibits them what is bad (and impure),"
[Al-Qur’an 7: 157]
"So take what the Messenger assigns to you and deny yourselves that which he withholds from you."
[Al-Qur’an 59: 7]
For a Muslim, the Prophet’s statement is sufficient to convince him that Allah does not wish humans to eat some kinds of meat while allowing some other kinds.





According to various authentic Ahadith narrated in Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim including hadith narrated by Ibn Abbas in Sahih Muslim, Book of hunting and slaughter, Hadith No. 4752 and Sunan Ibn-I-Majah chapter 13 Hadith no. 3232 to 3234, the Holy Prophet (pbuh) prohibited the eating of:

1. Wild animals with canine teeth, i.e. meat eating carnivorous animals. These are animals belonging to the cat families such as lion, tiger, cats, dogs, wolfs, hyenas, etc.
2. Certain rodents like mice, rats, rabbits with claws, etc.
3. Certain reptiles like snakes, alligators, etc.
4. Birds of prey with talons or claws, like vultures, eagle, crows, owl, etc.

And the prohibited mentioned in the Qur'an are:"Forbidden to you (for food) are: dead meat, blood, the flesh of swine, and that on which hath been invoked the name of other than Allah." [ 5:3]

Third,Sadly all of you ignored this.

4. Pork has fat building material
Pork has very little muscle building material and contains excess of fat. This fat gets deposited in the vessels and can cause hypertension and heart attack. It is not surprising that over 50% of Americans suffer from hypertension.

God's system for humans Islam.. changed to the better the lifes of so many people in all matters of life.One could ask wouldn't these people's lifes change to the better by stoping the eating of pork? won't this 50% rate decrease?
Some also missed the point here

5. Pig is one of the filthiest animals on earth
The pig is one of the filthiest animals on earth. It lives and thrives on muck, faeces and dirt. It is the best scavenger that I know that God has produced. In the villages they don’t have modern toilets and the villagers excrete in the open air. Very often excreta is cleared by pigs.
Some may argue that in advanced countries like Australia, pigs are bred in very clean and hygienic conditions. Even in these hygienic conditions the pigs are kept together in sties. No matter how hard you try to keep them clean they are filthy by nature. They eat and enjoy their own as well as their neighbour’s excreta.

Wrong. Pigs are known to be one of the cleanest animals. They wallow in mud to avoid damaging their skin, and in all the time my wife used to volunteer on a farm for almost 17 years, my wife has never, ever seen a pig eat its own faecal matter. If they did, this is the result of poor raising of the animals.

Yeah mud is fine,and i also like to eat and stick to the creatures that live in sewers! sewers are clean places for them.
And why allowing those who work in poor condition of raising animals (majority) to deal with pigs? And I said even there Even in these hygienic conditions the pigs are kept together in sties,go ask your wife, no matter how hard you try to keep them clean they are filthy by nature. They eat and enjoy their own as well as their neighbour’s excreta.
Forth, On what gronds do those who disagree with this stand upon?!

Eating of pork can cause no less than seventy different types of diseases. A person can have various helminthes like roundworm, pinworm, hookworm, etc. One of the most dangerous is Taenia Solium, which is in lay man’s terminology called tapeworm. It harbours in the intestine and is very long. Its ova i.e. eggs, enter the blood stream and can reach almost all the organs of the body. If it enters the brain it can cause memory loss. If it enters the heart it can cause heart attack, if it enters the eye it can cause blindness, if it enters the liver it can cause liver damage. It can damage almost all the organs of the body.
Another dangerous helminthes is Trichura Tichurasis.

Is it the common misconception about pork is that if it is cooked well, these ova die?! In a research project undertaken in America, it was found that out of twenty-four people suffering from Trichura Tichurasis, twenty two had cooked the pork very well. This indicates that the ova present in the pork do not die under normal cooking temperature.

 

[Breathe]

Please Odion share with us some 2009 pictures of your wife volunteering in a pig farm,unless she doesn't know about the 2009 flu pandemic then i just need you to advise her.

I meant to write, my wife volunteered on a pig farm until she was 17 (10 years, not 17. Whoops!). So, 2009 pictures of my wife on the pig farm are impossible. That, and I'm not going to post pictures of my wife on the net, especially to someone I don't know. Nothing personal.

Yeah mud is fine,and i also like to eat and stick to the creatures that live in sewers! sewers are clean places for them.
And why allowing those who work in poor condition of raising animals (majority) to deal with pigs? And I said even there Even in these hygienic conditions the pigs are kept together in sties,go ask your wife, no matter how hard you try to keep them clean they are filthy by nature. They eat and enjoy their own as well as their neighbour’s excreta.
Forth, On what gronds do those who disagree with this stand upon?!

My wife says she never, in all her time volunteering on the farm, saw any pig eat its own faeces, nor that of another pig.

They are not filthy animals by nature, they wallow in mud to protect themselves from the sun. Seyorni put it incredibly well. Pigs in the hot climate of the Middle East had to become filthy to survive, after all.

Even if pigs were filthy because they lived in sties, whose fault is that? Pigs do not live in sties naturally, after all. Therefore, the fault would be mankind's, not the pig's.

We (wife, kids, myself and my big sis) went and fed the pigs at the farm yesterday, actually... and we're going to feed them again today. And the pigs there were pretty clean, actually. Only mama pig had mud on her, none of the piglets did.

Okay, now we're off to feed the pigs. (We're going in the car :yes: And then maybe to feed some horses)

 

[Caladan]

Polygyny is permitted in Judaism.

the modern state of Israel states that polygamy is illegal, the people in Israel who do get to marry more than one wife are of Muslims decent, the state of Israel does not enforce that law on the Bedouin communities for example.
so please, don't post inaccurate information, I have yet to meet ANY Jewish man who is married to more than one wife, and I know quite a few

as for pork.
I'm a pork eating Jew. in fact, I love the options non kosher food offers... sea food, meat mixed with milk, I love it all. I think people need to get their priorities straight. you should pay a visit for a night of culinary experience in Tel Aviv, where the restaurants offer some great unkosher dishes, and where fresh seafood straight out of the Med is being served!
BTW, any guy for an eve of swappin'?

 

[gwk230]

the modern state of Israel states that polygamy is illegal, the people in Israel who do get to marry more than one wife are of Muslims decent, the state of Israel does not enforce that law on the Bedouin communities for example.
so please, don't post inaccurate information, I have yet to meet ANY Jewish man who is married to more than one wife, and I know quite a few

I could be wrong, cause I have been before, but I could have swore that they posted that judaism, as a religion, allowed polygyny not The governmental state of israel and surely not the whole of polygamy which also includes a woman with multiple husbands. Please correct me if I am wrong.

 

[arimoff]

My question was in reference to "but this one hasn't been wrong yet". SO... which one isn't wrong?

Torah.