Why is the theory of evolution...still considered a theory?

[Deidre]

First watch your mouth

Second do those scientists read the quran or not????
It's clear that quran says
We made Adam from clay not monkey

In Christianity, not all denominations take the origin of man story from the Bible, as literal.

To everyone, thank you so much for your explanations! I thought my question was stupid at first lol but you really opened my mind to why a theory is a theory, and how laws come to be. So a theory is ''as good as it gets'' in terms of accepting scientific facts, in some cases.

 

[Father Heathen]

Evolution isn't a theory

If accident is a theory evolution can be a theory too
But since accident isn't a theory and is against logic evolution has the same fait

That's not what evolution is, and if you don't understand what evolution is, you have no business attempting to debate the subject.

Those who believe in evolution they just wanna deny god but not publicly they can't do that
Instead they believe in evolution or prefer to be agnostic

The theory of evolution and the concept of god are not mutually exclusive. Literal interpretations of creation myths aren't a prerequisite for theistic belief.

 

[interminable]

That's not what evolution is, and if you don't understand what evolution is, you have no business attempting to debate the subject.



The theory of evolution and the concept of god are not mutually exclusive. Literal interpretations of creation myths aren't a prerequisite for theistic belief.

Unfortunately evolution is really against religions like Islam and Noone can believe in God and simultaneously in evolution as I quoted some verses from Quran in previous posts
These verses can't be interpreted to more than one meaning

And I watched a documetary

Cosmos
A spacetime odyssey

Some episodes are about evolution
Even he claims we made dogs shepherds

Did we make them shepherd???
Did we tell them not to sleep during night???
How strange!!!

I don't know why other monkeys don't like to be human
why they didn't select???

Evolution told monarch butterfly to travel 4800 kilometres??
Evolution told whales to travel 22000 kilometres to find food???

Are there some new ways to deny god????

 

[Sapiens]

First watch your mouth

Second do those scientists read the quran or not????
It's clear that quran says
We made Adam from clay not monkey

The the quran is wrong, about that and so many, many, other things. But don't feel bad ... the Christian Bible is equally erroneous.

 

[Sapiens]

Unfortunately evolution is really against religions like Islam and Noone can believe in God and simultaneously in evolution as I quoted some verses from Quran in previous posts
These verses can't be interpreted to more than one meaning

And I watched a documetary

Cosmos
A spacetime odyssey

Some episodes are about evolution
Even he claims we made dogs shepherds

Did we make them shepherd???
Did we tell them not to sleep during night???
How strange!!!

I don't know why other monkeys don't like to be human
why they didn't select???

Evolution told monarch butterfly to travel 4800 kilometres??
Evolution told whales to travel 22000 kilometres to find food???

Are there some new ways to deny god????

Monkeys do not evolve because they "want" to. Monkeys evolve because those with certain differences have a reproductive advantage over those who lack the differences.

Animals migrate a certain distance because doing to gives them a reproductive advantage over those who do not migrate as well as those who migrate less and those who migrate further. It is really quite simple.

How can one be accused of denying that which clearly does not exist except in books of mythology?

 

[interminable]

The the quran is wrong, about that and so many, many, other things. But don't feel bad ... the Christian Bible is equally erroneous.

YEAH
QURAN is like that because it doesn't coordinate your passions

If Quran said just believe in God and do whatever u want all people around the world were Muslims but practice is a hardest thing that a beliver can do

 

[Sapiens]

It is so hard only because it is so wrong. Strike two.

 

[interminable]

Monkeys do not evolve because they "want" to. Monkeys evolve because those with certain differences have a reproductive advantage over those who lack the differences.

Animals migrate a certain distance because doing to gives them a reproductive advantage over those who do not migrate as well as those who migrate less and those who migrate further. It is really quite simple.

How can one be accused of denying that which clearly does not exist except in books of mythology?

I'm speechless

It is so hard only because it is so wrong. Strike two.

 

[sayak83]

Unfortunately evolution is really against religions like Islam and Noone can believe in God and simultaneously in evolution as I quoted some verses from Quran in previous posts
These verses can't be interpreted to more than one meaning

Then it follows that the Quran is wrong. Simple.

And I watched a documetary

Cosmos
A spacetime odyssey

Good for you.

Some episodes are about evolution
Even he claims we made dogs shepherds

Of course we did. So what? Just as we can exploit the natural laws of physics to make artificial sources of light, we can similarly exploit the laws of evolution to artificially alter living things, like wolves into dogs.

I don't know why other monkeys don't like to be human
why they didn't select???

Evolutionary process are not controlled by the wishes and desires of animals. They are like laws of nature, but for biology.

Evolution told monarch butterfly to travel 4800 kilometres??

This depends on whether you believe that the laws of gravity tells the earth to revolve around the sun. Laws of Nature ARE, and the objects of nature conform to these laws inherently. There is no intentions here.

Evolution told whales to travel 22000 kilometres to find food???

The laws of evolution crafted the mind of the whales so that they behave that way, just as the laws of chemistry crafted hydrogen so that it ignites when it comes in contact with oxygen.

Are there some new ways to deny god????

As a non-Muslim I deny the reality of Abrahamic God long before evolution anyways.

 

[Deidre]

The the quran is wrong, about that and so many, many, other things. But don't feel bad ... the Christian Bible is equally erroneous.

Not so much erroneous as much as it doesn't need to be taken literally. Some things are stories to metaphorically talk about such things as morality, etc
I happen to think that the Bible needs an addendum or to be edited.. lol

 

[interminable]

Then it follows that the Quran is wrong. Simple.



Good for you.


Of course we did. So what? Just as we can exploit the natural laws of physics to make artificial sources of light, we can similarly exploit the laws of evolution to artificially alter living things, like wolves into dogs.





Evolutionary process are not controlled by the wishes and desires of animals. They are like laws of nature, but for biology.


This depends on whether you believe that the laws of gravity tells the earth to revolve around the sun. Laws of Nature ARE, and the objects of nature conform to these laws inherently. There is no intentions here.

The laws of evolution crafted the mind of the whales so that they behave that way, just as the laws of chemistry crafted hydrogen so that it ignites when it comes in contact with oxygen.


As a non-Muslim I deny the reality of Abrahamic God long before evolution anyways.

Could u please make a snake as a shepherd?

I don't expect u to accept any religion but at least don't be against logic

Whales have no intelligence

Who told them that 22000 kilometers away there are some foods???

Thank goodness human being with GPS gets lost but animals don't


Pretexts for denying god is always in your hands
This is God duty to prepare for both belivers and unbelievers something to grasp
Simply to test human beings

 

[LuisDantas]

The Qur'an does not even try to be correct about science, truth be told.

 

[interminable]

The Qur'an does not even try to be correct about science, truth be told.

Unfortunately the worst thing that happened to western nations is the equation of science with physics and chemistry

And forgot the logic and divine and religious sciences

Even when I say God Isn't something that u can see or in other words if u see something isn't God anymore

They can't accept
They say god is shy or...

But it's proved in religious science that it's impossible to see listen touch smell God

 

[sayak83]

Could u please make a snake as a shepherd?

Can one make a house out of sand. The ability to transform and manipulate elements of nature is constrained by the laws of nature themselves. Thus while one can mould and bake soft clay into hard bricks and make a house of this clay, the same can't be done for sand. Snake is like sand and wolf is like clay if you understand the analogy.

I don't expect u to accept any religion but at least don't be against logic

I am a scientist, my work involves logic.

Whales have no intelligence

This is patently false.

http://us.whales.org/whales-and-dolphins/brain-power

But that is irrelevant.

Who told them that 22000 kilometers away there are some foods???

The genes in the neurons of the brain of the whale are shaped by evolution to create this instinct in them. Just as different genes develop different neurons in a spider that creates the instinct that causes them to make webs. Similar instincts exist in us of course. The love a mother feels for her child is a great example of an instinct created by the laws of evolution.

Thank goodness human being with GPS gets lost but animals don't

Migratory species have special senses that help them keep track of direction, another ability that they have through evolution.
http://www.sciencefocus.com/qa/how-do-animals-know-where-migrate
The laws of evolution are responsible for the form and behavior of all life. Evolution creates and transforms genes. Genes dictate what proteins and enzymes are formed and when. Proteins and enzymes make up and determine the form and function of the entire body and all its organs including the activity of the brain. And so it is that evolution causes animals to act and react the way they do. What they do determine how many offsprings they have. These offsprings pass on the genes with small modifications, thus creating variability. This variability determines which offsprings are more successful in their turn to have more children. Thus the genes change, animals change and evolution continues. A vast iterative loop that hones and rehones living things through the eons of the world.

Pretexts for denying god is always in your hands

Just as pretexts to believe in such ideas...

 

[Skwim]

First watch your mouth

Or what? Just what do you plan to do to those who don't?

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Ya gotta realize that drama like this come off as outright silly rather than anything close to intimidating . . . . . .although it is entertaining. And for that:


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[Kirran]

Just to put in: it is not true that no Muslims accept evolution. There are substantial numbers who do, including various Islamic scholars.

 

[Deidre]

The Qur'an does not even try to be correct about science, truth be told.

I remember there was a thread topic on here about that...about how the Qur'an backs up science? Maybe I was imagining things.

 

[interminable]

Can one make a house out of sand. The ability to transform and manipulate elements of nature is constrained by the laws of nature themselves. Thus while one can mould and bake soft clay into hard bricks and make a house of this clay, the same can't be done for sand. Snake is like sand and wolf is like clay if you understand the analogy.


I am a scientist, my work involves logic.



This is patently false.

http://us.whales.org/whales-and-dolphins/brain-power

But that is irrelevant.



The genes in the neurons of the brain of the whale are shaped by evolution to create this instinct in them. Just as different genes develop different neurons in a spider that creates the instinct that causes them to make webs. Similar instincts exist in us of course. The love a mother feels for her child is a great example of an instinct created by the laws of evolution.



Migratory species have special senses that help them keep track of direction, another ability that they have through evolution.
http://www.sciencefocus.com/qa/how-do-animals-know-where-migrate
The laws of evolution are responsible for the form and behavior of all life. Evolution creates and transforms genes. Genes dictate what proteins and enzymes are formed and when. Proteins and enzymes make up and determine the form and function of the entire body and all its organs including the activity of the brain. And so it is that evolution causes animals to act and react the way they do. What they do determine how many offsprings they have. These offsprings pass on the genes with small modifications, thus creating variability. This variability determines which offsprings are more successful in their turn to have more children. Thus the genes change, animals change and evolution continues. A vast iterative loop that hones and rehones living things through the eons of the world.



Just as pretexts to believe in such ideas...

Instead please make lion and tiger as a shepherd can u????
All of your statements are nothing but mere claims

How smart is this evolution!!!!

Ordained something that human being till now couldn't reveal it's whole secrets with their sharp brains

Let alone creating a fly

 

[Acim]

Not sure if this is a silly question, but since we know that there exists plenty of viable information to support the theory of evolution, why is it still only considered a theory? Why isn't it a law? Or called something else? Theory implies a set of ideas that is supposing something to be true. Think we're past the idea phase of the theory of evolution, no?

No, we are not past the idea phase of the theory of evolution. It is supposition. Theory comes from philosophy and science is using that version, while adding to it, based on scientific understandings (really, additional philosophy). Theory generally means: a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, especially one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained

The ToE supposition is based ultimately on faith in the physical world. Not religious faith, but high degree of confidence that the physical world exists as reality. Coupled with scientific understanding that this is the only reality we 'know' exists given that we can perceive that (more than one of us can/does). Once the fundamental faith, or axiom, or top level principle is accepted, what follows may be rational, or irrational (not following from previous principles, assumptions and evidence). ToE rests a lot on evidence. That evidence rests (ultimately) on faith.

If sticking exclusively to scientific understandings, faith need not be part of the discussion, and to those entrenched in the paradigm along lines of 'best method for discovering truth,' faith is close to insulting. Those, of us, who understand science is a branch of philosophy and address the philosophy, or even theosophy that science clearly utilizes, aren't so hung up what science thinks is indisputable fact. More like, it is considered entirely rational to scrutinize not just the so called evidence and principles, but the basis of scientific theory and scientific philosophy.

 

[interminable]

Or what? Just what do you plan to do to those who don't?

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Ya gotta realize that drama like this come off as outright silly rather than anything close to intimidating . . . . . .although it is entertaining. And for that: [emoji106]


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Seems I didn't know the meaning of this idiom
That guy used some bad words and because in discussions I don't use those words I thought he is impolite
That's why I told him watch your mouth

So what's the meaning of this idiom exactly??
Maybe in informal situation it has another meaning