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Why is there no Prophet of our time?

Grendel

New Member
If we look at the three major monolithic faiths from the time of Adam to the Islamic prophet Muhammad, throughout that period there has been a steady progression of prophets and messengers from God. Why is there no prophet of our time? Why has God chosen to be silent in our darkest time? It would be nice to hear the views of all religions on this subject.
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
There's been plenty of contemporary self-identified prophets. It's just a matter of deciding whether they're the real deal or not.
 

Katzpur

Not your average Mormon
If we look at the three major monolithic faiths from the time of Adam to the Islamic prophet Muhammad, throughout that period there has been a steady progression of prophets and messengers from God. Why is there no prophet of our time? Why has God chosen to be silent in our darkest time? It would be nice to hear the views of all religions on this subject.
Well, seeing as you've specifically asked, and seeing as you are interested in the views of all religions... ;), members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (i.e. "the Mormons") are quite insistent that there is indeed a living prophet on the earth today, and we would fully agree with you that it would be quite odd for God to choose to be silent in this day and age. I think the term "Prophet" has some very negative connotations nowadays, thanks to people like David Koresh and Jim Jones.

This is the man we Mormons believe to be a prophet today. His name is Thomas S. Monson, and we believe he is a prophet in exactly the same sense as Abraham, Moses and Isaiah were prophets. I'm not going to proselytize, but if you have any questions about our belief in the need for and the reality of prophets in this day and age, just ask.

View attachment President Monson.jpg

Incidentally, the ability to wiggle one's ears is not a requirement for a prophet, but President Monson has this one nailed. If you're in the mood for a cute, quick video, check it out.
 
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Aquitaine

Well-Known Member
If we look at the three major monolithic faiths from the time of Adam to the Islamic prophet Muhammad, throughout that period there has been a steady progression of prophets and messengers from God. Why is there no prophet of our time? Why has God chosen to be silent in our darkest time? It would be nice to hear the views of all religions on this subject.

Because there's no such thing as a "Prophet of God", the whole thing is literally just based on Faith and Belief.

It's an illusion, it's a lie, it's not real - it's nothing more than a bunch of fables and myths dreamt up by other Human Beings.
 

Thana

Lady
Mmm, There are plenty of self proclaimed prophets of a variety of faiths in this time, And throughout.

Whether or not you distinguish them as true prophets or not, Is I suppose a personal decision.
 

Shermana

Heretic
If we look at the three major monolithic faiths from the time of Adam to the Islamic prophet Muhammad, throughout that period there has been a steady progression of prophets and messengers from God. Why is there no prophet of our time? Why has God chosen to be silent in our darkest time? It would be nice to hear the views of all religions on this subject.

Perhaps there actually are authentic prophets that the Abrahamic god has spoken to (as opposed to the myriads of hucksters), many of them, but who would listen to them? Who would believe them?

I believe in Hasidic tradition, there have been prophets as well for example.

However, the text also seems to indicate that prophets will not be sent when mankind is overwhelmingly sinful.
 

apophenia

Well-Known Member
Because there's no such thing as a "Prophet of God", the whole thing is literally just based on Faith and Belief.

It's an illusion, it's a lie, it's not real - it's nothing more than a bunch of fables and myths dreamt up by other Human Beings.

Wouldn't it be weird if it turned out that prophets and religions are products of evolution ? It may even be that certain kinds of ignorance and delusion improve survival potential. I'm thinking along the lines of human hive mind, and maybe an emergent behavior which enhances cooperation.
 

Aquitaine

Well-Known Member
Wouldn't it be weird if it turned out that prophets and religions are products of evolution ? It may even be that certain kinds of ignorance and delusion improve survival potential. I'm thinking along the lines of human hive mind, and maybe an emergent behavior which enhances cooperation.

Hehe, perhaps! :D
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
There's been plenty of contemporary self-identified prophets. It's just a matter of deciding whether they're the real deal or not.

Pretty much. And with several more billion people on the planet now, I imagine it's substantially harder to convince the majority of them that any particular prophet is "legitimate."

But I have to ask the OP: how is this our "darkest time?" There's more light pollution in the sky now than ever before, yo. Unless I make a point of going out on a boat in the middle of the ocean, I will die without ever seeing the true night sky. Kind of depressing, actually.
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
We're not in a "darkest time"; if anything, Euro-American pan-culture is living in a freaking golden age.

Sure, there may be a trillion problems, but at least I'm not living in post-Roman pre-Anglic Britain.
 

hexler

Member
There was a personage on earth, whom you would call "prophet", He was teaching many things which we take for granted today, but it was not in those latter days. Many signs appeared which proofed, that a new era has begun. Without the technical inventions of the 19th century our world would be different. Consider: Leonardo da Vinci was a genius, he tried to invent something, so that human beings could soar through the air. Nevertheless he did not succeed. But when around 200 years ago this new era began, new knowledge was released from the spiritual world and many people became inspired by this new descent of the Holy Spirit and invented - f.e. Brothers Wright the aeroplane.
 

dynavert2012

Active Member
well, you have first to know why the god is sending the messengers to us, according to my belief as there's still a valid message, the god won't send a messenger, but when all messages had been corrupted or distorted by people then god will interfere and send to the mankind a prophet who will correct them their message, as i believe that the god sent Jesus to Jews when they fully corrupt the Torah and no one on the earth was really a true believer as god wills so he sent them Jesus pubh to fix all of that, then when Christian did the same with gospel, the god sent prophet Mohamed puph to mankind to fix all of that, and as it was in the god's plan that prophet Mohamed is the last prophet so the god himself promises to preserve the last message of him to the mankind which is the Quran and so as it's preserved so why to send them a new messenger, the valid message is still preserved who wills to find it, it would be easy for him to find it, but the god is sending a man who refreshing the followers' minds from time to time by the main goals od that message.

about all of that evil in the world, it's part of the god's plan and we were told about it 1400 years ago, so we Muslims are not doubted because of it as we already knows it's part of the god's plan, you can find some articles in the Islam DIR that talks about that
 

hexler

Member
well, you have first to know why the god is sending the messengers to us, according to my belief as there's still a valid message, the god won't send a messenger, but when all messages had been corrupted or distorted by people then god will interfere and send to the mankind a prophet who will correct them their message, as i believe that the god sent Jesus to Jews when they fully corrupt the Torah and no one on the earth was really a true believer as god wills so he sent them Jesus pubh to fix all of that, then when Christian did the same with gospel, the god sent prophet Mohamed puph to mankind to fix all of that, and as it was in the god's plan that prophet Mohamed is the last prophet so the god himself promises to preserve the last message of him to the mankind which is the Quran and so as it's preserved so why to send them a new messenger, the valid message is still preserved who wills to find it, it would be easy for him to find it, but the god is sending a man who refreshing the followers' minds from time to time by the main goals od that message.

about all of that evil in the world, it's part of the god's plan and we were told about it 1400 years ago, so we Muslims are not doubted because of it as we already knows it's part of the god's plan, you can find some articles in the Islam DIR that talks about that

You are complete correct, when you say Mohammed was the last prophet. When I mentioned "personage" my intention was, not to look like a proselityzer. Probably you found out, it is Bahá’u’lláh. And He is not a prophet. A prophet makes prophesies, that is He speaks about the future. Bahá’u’lláh is talking for today. What He is, He clearly states:
Immerse yourselves in the ocean of My words, that ye may unravel its secrets, and discover all the pearls of wisdom that lie hid in its depths. Take heed that ye do not vacillate in your determination to embrace the truth of this Cause -- a Cause through which the potentialities of the might of God have been revealed, and His sovereignty established. With faces beaming with joy, hasten ye unto Him. This is the changeless Faith of God, eternal in the past, eternal in the future. Let him that seeketh, attain it; and as to him that hath refused to seek it -- verily, God is Self-Sufficient, above any need of His creatures.

Say: This is the infallible Balance which the Hand of God is holding, in which all who are in the heavens and all who are on the earth are weighed, and their fate determined, if ye be of them that believe and recognize this truth. Say: Through it the poor have been enriched, the learned enlightened, and the seekers enabled to ascend unto the presence of God. Beware, lest ye make it a cause of dissension amongst you. Be ye as firmly settled as the immovable mountain in the Cause of your Lord, the Mighty, the Loving.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
There are more prophets alive now that at any time in our past, and exactly the same number of 'true' prophets.
This miracle is a sign of God.

And yes, flight lounge beer is a trap. I shouldn't be posting, and make no guarantees that my posts won't get looser from here until my (delayed) flight.

I'm also impressed by my spelling, given my current state. Yay for muscle-memory!
 

dynavert2012

Active Member
You are complete correct, when you say Mohammed was the last prophet. When I mentioned "personage" my intention was, not to look like a proselityzer. Probably you found out, it is Bahá’u’lláh. And He is not a prophet. A prophet makes prophesies, that is He speaks about the future. Bahá’u’lláh is talking for today. What He is, He clearly states:
Immerse yourselves in the ocean of My words, that ye may unravel its secrets, and discover all the pearls of wisdom that lie hid in its depths. Take heed that ye do not vacillate in your determination to embrace the truth of this Cause -- a Cause through which the potentialities of the might of God have been revealed, and His sovereignty established. With faces beaming with joy, hasten ye unto Him. This is the changeless Faith of God, eternal in the past, eternal in the future. Let him that seeketh, attain it; and as to him that hath refused to seek it -- verily, God is Self-Sufficient, above any need of His creatures.

Say: This is the infallible Balance which the Hand of God is holding, in which all who are in the heavens and all who are on the earth are weighed, and their fate determined, if ye be of them that believe and recognize this truth. Say: Through it the poor have been enriched, the learned enlightened, and the seekers enabled to ascend unto the presence of God. Beware, lest ye make it a cause of dissension amongst you. Be ye as firmly settled as the immovable mountain in the Cause of your Lord, the Mighty, the Loving.

HI hexler, i just don't want to take the thread off, but surly you know the Muslims' opinion about Bahá’u’lláh, we don't consider him sent by god to us
 

chinu

chinu
If we look at the three major monolithic faiths from the time of Adam to the Islamic prophet Muhammad, throughout that period there has been a steady progression of prophets and messengers from God. Why is there no prophet of our time? Why has God chosen to be silent in our darkest time? It would be nice to hear the views of all religions on this subject.
Who said you, there isn't any prophet in your time ? That thing is different, if haven't got yet. Thus, you may keep on searching until you get, imo :)
 

chinu

chinu
There's been plenty of contemporary self-identified prophets. It's just a matter of deciding whether they're the real deal or not.
Imo, am sure that the Real-one will introduce him/herself, if really there's any real needy person on this earth, because its his/her duty to do so :)
 

chinu

chinu
Because there's no such thing as a "Prophet of God", the whole thing is literally just based on Faith and Belief.

It's an illusion, it's a lie, it's not real - it's nothing more than a bunch of fables and myths dreamt up by other Human Beings.
If this is all illusion, than what is reality ? :D
 

chinu

chinu
Wouldn't it be weird if it turned out that prophets and religions are products of evolution ? It may even be that certain kinds of ignorance and delusion improve survival potential. I'm thinking along the lines of human hive mind, and maybe an emergent behavior which enhances cooperation.
loll, some people are very much worried about others, than themselves.
 
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