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Why is your Deity better and why are you sure you are right?
- Thread starter Nefelie
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To the people that practice them, yes.
To me, Jehovah is the only true God. The ancient Egyptians came to see the superiority of Jehovah over their false gods as one after another, the plagues God brought on Egypt showed the impotence of their objects of worship to protect them.(Exodus 12:12) Later, the gods of other nations were shown as impotent against Jehovah. (Zephaniah 2:11) A careful study of the Bible convinces me that Jehovah is the true God and the Bible is his word to mankind.
- Perhaps it would have been better to ask: "Why is your understanding of Deity better than that of other faiths?" My answer (particularly in the case of Islam) would be: "I'm not certain that it is."
- I'm not. I am, however, extremely comfortable with my rejection of polytheism and Christianity.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
And this was also the approach of Joseph Campbell, which I also embrace. Viva la difference.
At 15 years old the whole of reality became one voice, with the hosts of Heaven behind it, and the information presented, i wasn't aware of until 20 years later.
At 22 years old was guided to go to a sacred mountain, that is recorded in Revelation chapter 10, and two years later found it recorded in the Bible.
There are also lots of little prophecies, like having the new name of Christ, arguing with Christians about them following false doctrine, etc.
We don't know where consciousness exists, we assume memory is held in the back of the brain; yet memory can be stored in the soul, and consciousness can be infinite.
Not sure in which aspect you meant; yet here are some of the points was unaware of before the experience: wasn't aware of mycorrhizal being a network feeding the trees, that our whole reality is dictated by for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction, that the metaphysical supports the physical at a quantum level, that energy can be colour, sound, taste, etc....
The other side of the evidence, is when comparing the knowledge of Heaven, with religious texts...
Which is that Heaven exists within a place of pure consciousness, above the physical dimensions, and that its real name is Oneness.
Hell is the lowest dimension, and is almost like what the matter of the reality we see around us is made from.
Be more specific in what question you're asking.
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Nefelie
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Kelly of the Phoenix
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I believe in a singular divine reality. However, because my theology is more ecological, I feel that "God" is more of a superset, a universal set, with everyone else within it. This applies to Yahweh as well as the others. I mean, I'm from the States. If anything, shouldn't I be worshipping Grandfather Spirit or something? I believe that most theologies have some sort of "overall reality" with other various characters within it. Even the monotheistic religions can't help but have angels and demons and such things.
Like, I feel that (taking imagery from Bruce Almighty) all the prayer emails go to many alias accounts, but are all read by the same superuser, if that makes sense.
I feel that reality is complicated despite our apparent need to strip it down to bare bones so we can comprehend it. I don't see God being jealous towards other gods because "God" is the body and the rest of the gods are the body parts or something. We learn about the food chain in school and tend to forget that a more realistic version would be an ever-shifting food WEB.
I mean, if I see people fighting over a "Truth", usually there are enough hints that everyone in the fight is seeing some part of it and the ACTUAL Truth is a complicated mess that accompanies all of the different observations, like that blind guys and the elephant story.
So what did it prove when pagan countries attacked and defeated Israel or Judah? And don't just say that God was punishing His evil followers. If winning a battle means God is true, then NOT winning means the other guys' gods are true, yes?
Jehovah foretold that when his people worshipped false gods, he would allow their enemies to defeat them, and Jehovah would bring other disasters upon them. (Deuteronomy 28:58-68) This prophecy proved true on Israel. But Jehovah always preserved his nation until the Messiah arrived, thus fulfilling all the messianic prophecies God gave. One more evidence for Jehovah's Godship.
Akivah
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Why is that weird? It happens all the time. People that like sports argue who is the best sports teams, People in politics argue over the best policies. So?
My Deity makes the most logical sense to me.
See #1 above.
People have lots of different facts, circumstances, education and experiences. So like different sports teams, people will have different beliefs. I don't presume to dictate to others how my deity thinks. From what I believe, My deity cares far less about beliefs than actions.
Most of the time, Pagans are Polytheists, and vice-versa. While certainly not synonymous, these two concepts can't really butt heads.
Because I like them better.
"Right/wrong" doesn't apply, here.
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They don't argue whose gods are better, they respect each others' beliefs. They simply argue about who's doing it right or wrong.
- One deity can fling a chariot wheel like a frisbee and turn it into a giant buzzsaw in mid-air, another can smash mountains with a hammer. I mean, that's some hardcore divinity right there!
- It works for me; I don't say others don't have it right.
prabhu mūrat dekhi tin taisi
(Everyone sees God in their own way, or something like that).
I'm sorry, I can see how that might have been confusing. I am Jewish, but it would be the height of presumption to claim that my understanding of Deity is better than the understanding achieved by of some of the preeminent Islamic philosophers, particularly since I have not properly studied them.
Nefelie
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I don’t think that people supporting the same team will go to such extremes as killing fellow-fans, like Muslims did to Sufis, Protestants to Catholics (and vise versa), and so on.
BTW: When I wrote: “Christians vs Muslims vs Jewish vs Pagans vs Polytheists and so on”, I didn’t mean it in this particular order. I meant the arguments between these religion believers. I do know that it’s not frequent to see Pagans arguing with Polytheists (even though I have seen it happen), but Christians with Pagans or Muslims with Polytheists, and so on, is an “everyday fact”. I hope I made myself clear now
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It's almost not about good or bad. God, if exists, is supposed to be a super being. All matters is thus what He wants us to do. Next is;
If what He demands humans to do is not significant, then it makes not much difference if humans are going to fulfill His demand or not. All matters is thus when His demand is significant. Next is;
If His demand is significant, He must maintain the same message conveyed today, and some 2000 years ago. Or else, humans today may not be able to receive the same demand as humans did some 2000 years ago. Next is;
The Holy Bible of Christianity is the only human book (of thousand pages of theological contents) which we can reconcile to tell that the theological message it's trying to convey today remains the same as some 2000 years ago. We have a whole library of Dead Sea Scrolls to tell that the OT Bible we read today is the same OT Bible the Jews read some 2000 years ago. We have also 2 independent NT sources, namely the NIV and KJV streams of Bible, for us to reconcile to tell that the theological message it's trying to convey today remains the same as some 2000 years ago. Next is;
Finally, how significant the message is to be considered significant at all? It is as significant as concerning the dead or alive of a human. To put it another way, if you failed to follow the message you are pretty much doomed. If the message is less significant than this, then the message becomes optional for humans to follow or not. That is, the message is considered significant only when following the message becomes compulsory, as if it's optional then it remains an option for you to choose not to follow. Next is;
The Bible is now conveying a compulsory message for humans to follow. If not so you don't need to follow God's demand strictly. You don't need to believe whatever He's trying to say. It's because the demand is compulsory that the message becomes significant to humans. Humans thus must follow or will suffer from serious consequences. Next is;
How many Jews exist today, and how many not treating the Mosaic Law optional to follow? Even under the assumption that the 20 million Jews follow the OT strictly, that means only (20 million / 6 billion) humans are saved. It is thus more reasonable that God not just chooses the 20 million Jews (of which the majority actually don't follow His demand strictly as the Jews did some 2000 years ago) to follow His demand. Next is;
Now Christianity is the only religion that Christians saved today are under the same standard set some 2000 yeas ago. They are saved through the same standard of Faith as specified in a said covenant!
Dude, have you seen how horrible uberfans of certain types of media can be to each other, and to other fans?
So, a might makes right form of governance?
Nefelie
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And I answered. Not really sure what else you're looking for.