Why ISIS are wrong.

[Looncall]

Is it even proper to allow considerations of Quranic interpretation to overrule basic decency?

This is why it is so idiotic to base one's judgements on ancient scriptures. People would do much better to rely on common sense and empathy. Like the ancient roman criterion "what an honest person of good will would deem to be right", or words to that effect.

ISIS is what one should expect where scripture is allow to govern people's lives. It gives a dangerous sense of certainty.

 

[Godobeyer]

Iraqis under ISIS control say their lives have gotten better

their lives have gotten better !!!!

Today I heard in news that they excute more than 500 innocent because they are Yazidi beliefs

IF someone under threaten , he/she would say anything to stay alive , so whom said "their lives have gotten better" , were under threaten .

ISIS want establish Khilaf , since Khilaf (or even Makah) is not important than 1 innocent soul .

 

[Godobeyer]

Inspite some remarks about USA Army and Policy , this time USA Army did good job , by saving the innocent in Iraq .

 

[Matemkar]

I can't be sure of that brother. Having been used to what the US drones do in Afghanistan and Yemen (i.e. targeting civillians rather than the terrorists), I can't be sure if they really target ISIS. They are its illegitimate babies after all. The results of its help to the Syrian rebels and help of its allies to them.

 

[Godobeyer]

I can't be sure of that brother. Having been used to what the US drones do in Afghanistan and Yemen (i.e. targeting civillians rather than the terrorists), I can't be sure if they really target ISIS. They are its illegitimate babies after all. The results of its help to the Syrian rebels and help of its allies to them.

as I heard they made direct operations against ISIS , and drop food and aid to the civilians , Iraqi army and Turkey Army and Kurds and why not Syrian army should help .

 

[outhouse]

I can't be sure of that brother. Having been used to what the US drones do in Afghanistan and Yemen (i.e. targeting civillians rather than the terrorists), I can't be sure if they really target ISIS. They are its illegitimate babies after all. The results of its help to the Syrian rebels and help of its allies to them.

Ignorance, and biased hatred.


Look, when primitive abd barbaric people cannot place nice with the world, or their own people. Someone has to control the situation. War is not pretty and bad things happen, and you can state anything you want, and make all kinds of blame,

But its best you look in a mirror.

Thanks to us:yes: We are stopping your own garbage, muslim on muslim violence your own people cannot control, so we have to come in and take care of YOUR mess.

 

[outhouse]

This is why it is so idiotic to base one's judgements on ancient scriptures. People would do much better to rely on common sense and empathy. Like the ancient roman criterion "what an honest person of good will would deem to be right", or words to that effect.

ISIS is what one should expect where scripture is allow to govern people's lives. It gives a dangerous sense of certainty.

Agreed.

Applied fundamentalism to the extreme.

 

[columbus]

I can't be sure of that brother. Having been used to what the US drones do in Afghanistan and Yemen (i.e. targeting civillians rather than the terrorists), I can't be sure if they really target ISIS. They are its illegitimate babies after all. The results of its help to the Syrian rebels and help of its allies to them.

So where are the Turks and Iranians? It appears that they are fine with rape, destruction and genocide.

I oppose further USA involvement in Iraq, as I opposed the earlier ones. But I have not seen much response from any Islamic country opposed to Isis.
That is why Obama got pressured into bombing. Because Muslims don't care.

Tom

 

[outhouse]

their lives have gotten better !!!!

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Not really a true statement.

This place is a war torn hell, not good for anyone.

It has been abused by everyone, including the muslim dictators who ran it in the past.



It is sad tha a place with so much cultural herritage and history, is abused by politicians.

 

[Godobeyer]

Not really a true statement.

This place is a war torn hell, not good for anyone.

It has been abused by everyone, including the muslim dictators who ran it in the past.



It is sad tha a place with so much cultural herritage and history, is abused by politicians.

You may missunderstand me ,
I just repeat the title of site , and end it by (!!!)
I am completely against Farok statement .

 

[outhouse]

You may missunderstand me ,
I just repeat the title of site , and end it by (!!!)
I am completely against Farok statement .

My mistake. Sorry.

I knew your heart was in the right place though. :bow:

 

[Godobeyer]

My mistake. Sorry.

I knew your heart was in the right place though. :bow:

No worried

thanks for this kind word

 

[Matemkar]

Ignorance, and biased hatred.

Look, when primitive abd barbaric people cannot place nice with the world, or their own people. Someone has to control the situation. War is not pretty and bad things happen, and you can state anything you want, and make all kinds of blame,

But its best you look in a mirror.

Thanks to us:yes: We are stopping your own garbage, muslim on muslim violence your own people cannot control, so we have to come in and take care of YOUR mess.

Oh Mr Wise! Your highness!

Please study history, especially the late centuries, before you accuse someone with ignorance. You can start with the foundation of the US until today. And the coups, invasions it made worldwide. I believe it will take years for one to study since the American govt's crime file is too big.

Maybe you study how the people US is now fighting with in Afghanistan was created by them to fight Russia. And then, you will start to realize it is the same everywhere. US starts and forms terrorist groups. And when it is done, US makes excuse of those terrorist groups and invades those lands, plunders its sources and targets related and unrelated people. Just check about drone strikes in Afghanistan and Yemen. How many civillians they killed. And you will see what I mean.

And FYI, Muslims are able to clean this garbage and they will inshaAllah. But foreign interference, support of the subserviant regimes and groups have always made the situation worse. And inshaAllah that also will be ended.

 

[metis]

Outhouse was referring to Muslem on Muslem violence and not what the U.S. did or didn't do. Nice but disingenuous try at bait-and-switch.

 

[outhouse]

Oh Mr Wise! Your highness!

Please study history, especially the late centuries, before you accuse someone with ignorance. You can start with the foundation of the US until today. And the coups, invasions it made worldwide. I believe it will take years for one to study since the American govt's crime file is too big.

Maybe you study how the people US is now fighting with in Afghanistan was created by them to fight Russia. And then, you will start to realize it is the same everywhere. US starts and forms terrorist groups. And when it is done, US makes excuse of those terrorist groups and invades those lands, plunders its sources and targets related and unrelated people. Just check about drone strikes in Afghanistan and Yemen. How many civillians they killed. And you will see what I mean.

And FYI, Muslims are able to clean this garbage and they will inshaAllah. But foreign interference, support of the subserviant regimes and groups have always made the situation worse. And inshaAllah that also will be ended.

We know you think terrorism is the answer.

Thanks for promoting hatred and bias. Thanks for promoting the stereotype

 

[Matemkar]

We know you think terrorism is the answer.

Where did you get that?

I KNOW terrorism (Taliban, FSA, ISIS, etc.) has been created by the US, and it uses it as excuse for state terrorism (invasion, etc.). And I explained it a lot before HERE.

What I see as answer is, Western governments stop meddling into the affairs of the nations (Not CIA coups or supporting terrorism in the non-subserviant states. And not supporting subserviant regimes.). And the nations will themselves eliminate the terrorist groups in them, and they will restore the countries.

 

[outhouse]

And the nations will themselves eliminate the terrorist groups in them, and they will restore the countries.
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They have been violent and fighting since the beginning of your religion.

The islamic nations were once a proud people at the forfront of science and education, until a bad iman ruined it, and it has never recovered.

Here is a clue, play nice with each other , and the police wont come.

 

[Matemkar]

Police? Do you really think the US is the cop of the world?

I am assuming you accept the invader/plunderer govt. as such. So, here's the question, what kind of cop would train and arm a terrorist, later when another person fights with that terrorist, the cop interferes and kills both?

US certainly is not a cop. Rather it is state terrorism. They founded and supported Taliban, FSA and other terrorist groups. And now they claim of wishing to stop them, but what they do is to target all.

 

[outhouse]

Police? Do you really think the US is the cop of the world?

I am assuming you accept the invader/plunderer govt. as such. So, here's the question, what kind of cop would train and arm a terrorist, later when another person fights with that terrorist, the cop interferes and kills both?

US certainly is not a cop. Rather it is state terrorism. They founded and supported Taliban, FSA and other terrorist groups. And now they claim of wishing to stop them, but what they do is to target all.

What ever dude. There is more politics that started all the fighting then meets the eye. You love propaganda and bias.

If a dog bites an ankle, the dog should not be suprised when it gets kicked or shot.

If you want to support terrrosim, your free to do so. Oh wait, im sorry maybe you dont have that freedom in your country.

 

[outhouse]

BEIRUT (Reuters) - Islamic State has crushed a pocket of resistance to its control in eastern Syria, crucifying two people and executing 23 others in the past five days, a monitoring group said on Monday.

Do you condone this behavior?