outhouse
Atheistically
We would never know if a god lied because only man writes about the concept.
No god has ever written a word with any credibility what so ever.
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Why isn't God a lair?
- Thread starter Emp-Naval
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We would never know if a god lied because only man writes about the concept.
No god has ever written a word with any credibility what so ever.
What do you suggest we call Him? If we call Him "She", the same problem arises: We're humanizing Him/Her. I don't feel right calling God "It".
What I sometimes do is eschew use of pronouns altogether. It isn't difficult, it just requires a different style of writing. Not one that I particularly like, which is why I shamelessly use the terms that are accurate to describe my gods. If it doesn't have a sex, "it" is a completely proper term. I don't quite understand where this bizarre negative connotation around "it" came from in my culture. It's only disrespectful if you know darned well what someone's physical sex is and are being a snarky smart #$% by deliberately using the wrong pronoun.
Alternatively, we could adopt alternative pronouns that some progressive writers have proposed. I have yet to find a set that I like, but it's the direction I'd like to see the English language ultimately evolve towards. Pronouns that limit to a male-female sex binary are awful, considering the majority of the universe is non-sexed, and most life forms are either asexual or hermaphrodites.
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
Wow, why? We have Gods and Goddesses, what's the problem? I'm good with it.
I think I already explained why in the post you responded to. The universe doesn't fit into "male" and "female." And for someone whose gods are literally the various aspects of the universe (i.e., Sun, Moon, Storm, Sea, Sky), sexed pronouns or titles are woefully inadequate. Hell, for period of time I used to avoid the word "gods" because my brain insisted it was a sex-male term and I felt it was an inaccurate way to describe what I worshiped. I used the word "deities" instead, or "spirits" (which I still use interchangeably with "gods").
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
That's your perspective. I have gender specific Deity.
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
I don't get it...
yep, I don't think the OP is completely clear. There actually is a good argument in there, I think, but the direction of the question might be a bit muddled.
I'll fall on my knees and repent even if I saw a word written by a god even if the context didn't have credibility...
That alone will be sufficient proof for me ...
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
I thought similar to you at one time but evidences show that God's promises always become true.
One fact which i can't neglect is his promise to bring the Jews to Palestine from different part of the world and that they will be powerful and Muslims will be defeated for a given time decided by him.
It is the end of times that we are living in by now, the picture started to be clear after the sanctions on Iraq and the conflict in Syria then the appeal for the caliphate in which no power can stop it and that all was foretold.
God promised to punish the bad doers and hence his promise have to be true.
ametist
Active Member
Understanding that someone can be a liar starts with the recognition that lying is possible and you yourself can do it if you want it with no obstacle in the way to make it a lia. But imagine a situation where when somebody speaks, it cant be a lia in all the given cirmcumstances. So yes god can be lying from single point of views while it is impossible from a wider perspective. It is probably impossible for god to lie but when you hear it it may be a lia to you. When you live it,it is another circumstance anyway.
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<I'm coming from an eastern Indian non-dual, God and creation are not two, perspective>
A master I respect said to not take anyone's word for God, experience it yourself and you will KNOW. The master says he has done so himself and now KNOWS that God is all there is. The catch of course is the test cannot be done in our first hour and a half meditation session. It takes a lot of work to quiet the noisy mind and experience this.
Until I have the experience myself I can only take the words of the master as a hypothesis. I can only say the master has presented the most reasonable hypothesis I've heard and I am willing to follow it as I've heard nothing better. Along the way I've found his teachings and practices have given me greater peace and well-being and I begin to feel I'm on to something.
Ingledsva
HEATHEN ALASKAN
raw_thought
Well-Known Member
Gender specific? Does God have a "Y" chromosome?* ( presumably that means that God can be cloned), does he have a beard? What size are his sandals?
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y_chromosome
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y_chromosome
Call_of_the_Wild
Well-Known Member
According to Christian theism, God does not lie.
Sex =/= gender
It would be wise to ask disciple if he meant sex (biology/physiology) or gender (social construct). Or possibly both, given people use these words improperly on a regular basis, unfortunately.
Sorry, but I think you are wrong on this regard.
If anything, it is easier to argue that even the Abrahamic God probably isn't that kind of hell maniac.
IMO this obsession with Hell that some people have is not very religious at all.