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Why Isn't the Sabbath Saturday?

Sleeppy

Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
What does making it a certain day of the week do? People still don't understand the significance of these events.
 

McBell

Unbound
Would someone please be so kind as to present from their scriptures which day is the Sabbath?

And i am talking about something other than the ultra vague "seventh day"...
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
The touchy thing about Xy is that, even though we usually make an appeal to the authority of Tradition, Xy has always been a living, growing, changing entity. "What we are doing now" supercedes "what we have 'always' done." It's interesting to note what Ignatius said. It's further interesting to note what the Didache says. But the operative dynamic is what we're doing now. And now, the order of the day seems to be "forget Sabbath -- celebrate the resurrection."

That being said, what Xtians do has no bearing on the Sabbath, for Sabbath is a Judaic thing. We Xtians can only supercede that for ourselves -- not for everyone else.
 

Shermana

Heretic
Also, Jesus never stated the sabbath had to be on Saturday nor did he make a distinction between the day of he Lord and the sabbath.
Jesus said "Pray that your flight does not take place in the Winter or on a Sabbath day".

Now he said "a Sabbath". Therefore, the implication was that it was the Same Sabbath that was already being observed. Now as to the reason why he said that, there is obviously a difference between the entire season of Winter where it could be virtually impossible to find shelter, and the Sabbath itself, where it would be very easy to find shelter among gentiles and non-observant Hellenists, and besides, not having shelter for one day as opposed to the entire season of Winter is a big difference. So it can be argued that Jesus was saying "Pray that you don't have to exert yourself on THE Sabbath day", thus not only confirming that Sabbath was the same day as always, but also enforcing belief to adhere to it even in the face of adversity.
 
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arthra

Baha'i
I live near a Seventh Day Adventist church...and they always have "church" on Saturday..They even have "Easter Sunday" on Saturday...
 

Vultar

Active Member
I think it should be Wednesday because Wednesday is "Hump day" and we all know how the current religions have screwed over the world...

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F0uad

Well-Known Member
Can somebody explain the Sabbath, i know it derives from the day of rest... but how can god rest and refresh or are we attributing him human natures now a days?
 

Levite

Higher and Higher
Can somebody explain the Sabbath, i know it derives from the day of rest... but how can god rest and refresh or are we attributing him human natures now a days?

It's not that God needs refreshment or rest the way a human being does. Shabbat is not about physical relaxation (although that can play a part). It's a spiritual thing.

When we talk about God making the seventh day Shabbat after the six days of creation, what we mean is akin to art. The final act of creating a piece of art is to stand back, appreciate it, and just live with it: savor its existence and rejoice that you made this amazing thing. And by extension, Shabbat is the day for us Jews (since non-Jews are not commanded to keep Shabbat) to stop doing what we're doing, get our heads out of our daily lives, and focus on appreciating life in the world, the universe around us, the amazing people we share it all with, and the God who made it all possible.
 

F0uad

Well-Known Member
It's not that God needs refreshment or rest the way a human being does. Shabbat is not about physical relaxation (although that can play a part). It's a spiritual thing.

When we talk about God making the seventh day Shabbat after the six days of creation, what we mean is akin to art. The final act of creating a piece of art is to stand back, appreciate it, and just live with it: savor its existence and rejoice that you made this amazing thing. And by extension, Shabbat is the day for us Jews (since non-Jews are not commanded to keep Shabbat) to stop doing what we're doing, get our heads out of our daily lives, and focus on appreciating life in the world, the universe around us, the amazing people we share it all with, and the God who made it all possible.

Thanks for your explanation so we shouldn't take the verse literally then right? at-least the ''Rested''
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Thanks for your explanation so we shouldn't take the verse literally then right? at-least the ''Rested''
Except that spiritual focus of the sort he's speaking about is distracted by work and activity.
 

Levite

Higher and Higher
Thanks for your explanation so we shouldn't take the verse literally then right? at-least the ''Rested''

Which verse, the one that says that God rested and refreshed Himself? No, not in a sense, say, that God was tired, but sat down put up His feet, and had a cold one. God doesn't work that way: not being a physical creature with the limitations of finite beings, He doesn't need that kind of rest. But a time for introspection, taking pleasure in creation, and appreciating the moment-- even God might enjoy that.

And in Hebrew, the verse says of God u'va-yom ha-shvi'i shavat vayinafash, meaning "...on the seventh day, He had Shabbat, and He renewed His spirit." Meaning that on Shabbat, He found renewed joy and pleasure in creation, and renewed dedication toward being our God.
 

F0uad

Well-Known Member
Which verse, the one that says that God rested and refreshed Himself? No, not in a sense, say, that God was tired, but sat down put up His feet, and had a cold one. God doesn't work that way: not being a physical creature with the limitations of finite beings, He doesn't need that kind of rest. But a time for introspection, taking pleasure in creation, and appreciating the moment-- even God might enjoy that.

And in Hebrew, the verse says of God u'va-yom ha-shvi'i shavat vayinafash, meaning "...on the seventh day, He had Shabbat, and He renewed His spirit." Meaning that on Shabbat, He found renewed joy and pleasure in creation, and renewed dedication toward being our God.

Ok thanks for the explanation i still have a problem with the ''Renewed his spirit'' but i think i understand it now so thanks.
 
The Sabbath is the day Lord blessed and gave to this earth to be a special day when we shall rest from our work .We must prepare our souls to be open in order to talk with HIM in this special day.
 
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