Can you use any public bathroom you like, or serve in the military?
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Why reject atheism?
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Can you use any public bathroom you like, or serve in the military?
Indeed. For instance, if there are gods, and they are sentient (possessing {ok, loaded word there} a subjective mind,) then they are also subject to delusion like any other sentient being. On top of this, these gods would have to deal with thousands of worshippers' voices in their head asking for boons and such. (If that's not enough to drive any sentient being crazy, I don't know what is!)
So, you've got theists who insist on worship that would probably drive any such beings crazy, and you've got atheists who don't even want to consider the above implications. Neither atheism nor theism seems willing to address the above model, so in my eyes neither theism nor atheism are very useful.
Of course, your mileage may vary.
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I'd personally stay out of the military, thank you. Men's bathrooms tend to be gross and messy.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I wonder if those two groups will ever stop picking at our bones and fighting to claim us for themselves?
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Easy! It is an absolute 'belief' based on a philosophical assumption I am no willing to make! Now, agnosticism is a possibility I would be willing to except,
Cannot speak of others. I used to be an atheist about 15 years back. Certain events made me question and introspect on “Whence this ‘i’ that assumes to know everything without actually knowing it’s own root?”
Although I am not a theist in the classical mould, I renounced my ‘materialistic-atheistic’ view.
Because it's the same as belief. Its irrelevant.
Because they are not rigorous empiricists.
Atheism, the default position that results from not being a theist, is the only rational position for a skeptic to take until compelling evidence of a god or gods is produced.
Likewise with avampirism and aleprechaunism. If believing vampires or leprechauns meets some emotional need, and he is not committed to rigorous empiricism, then one might also embrace them with insufficient evidence.
But others who either have no such need, or if they do, understand that they should resist indulging it, will remain atheists, avampirists and aleprechaunists all for the same reason.
Well I don't really see atheism as one thing. It has thousands of variants.
Hell there's many Athiests who happily attend religious ceremonies in our Dharmic communities. Jains for example reject a creator God and may or may not be theists themselves. Depends on the person I guess.
Why reject atheism? I don't know if I necessarily do.
But I suppose in some communities it may save one's life (socially or even literally) to publicly reject atheism.
Hell there's many Athiests who happily attend religious ceremonies in our Dharmic communities. Jains for example reject a creator God and may or may not be theists themselves. Depends on the person I guess.
Why reject atheism? I don't know if I necessarily do.
But I suppose in some communities it may save one's life (socially or even literally) to publicly reject atheism.
Phantasman
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If it is an "ism", it is a system of political belief.
Rejecting atheism would be the same as rejecting communism, theism or deism in it's root.
It's why I do not subscribe to Gnosticism, though I seek gnosis (spiritual knowledge). It's just a word, made up by men to categorize people into their own divisions. And people within those divisions usually have to redefine themselves to others. I'm an atheist but.....
Same with Christianity. I tend to see the individual in debate, and not the word they use to describe themselves. Every one is unique.
Rejecting atheism would be the same as rejecting communism, theism or deism in it's root.
It's why I do not subscribe to Gnosticism, though I seek gnosis (spiritual knowledge). It's just a word, made up by men to categorize people into their own divisions. And people within those divisions usually have to redefine themselves to others. I'm an atheist but.....
Same with Christianity. I tend to see the individual in debate, and not the word they use to describe themselves. Every one is unique.
What do you think “agreeing with the atheists” means?
Still don't know what that means. Sorry, not trying to be difficult. What is the outcome of rejecting atheism? Belief in...something? Anything?
I'm not sure people actually work that way. They have a belief in God, not a rejection of atheism.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I did ask God, but I hear he's an atheist too so there's really no need for anyone to wait for any type of response.
Remember kiddies rejecting atheism is rejecting Gods own thoughts on the matter so be obedient and stay with atheism.
Remember kiddies rejecting atheism is rejecting Gods own thoughts on the matter so be obedient and stay with atheism.
Agreeing with the idea that there is no god.
I'm a pretty hard line atheist and I think this is uncharitable imo. There's been numerous occasion in the history of empirical philosophy where a discovery is limited to select experience for a time. Re: black swans. I don't have access to someone else's private experience and they may well have some experience that validates their theistic belief and they just can't show you evidence. That doesn't mean they can't be empirically minded, it just means they can't expect or be expected to empirically demonstrate it to you.
Atheism works that way being that its 'not theism'.
Black is not white, and Agnosticism is not Theism. by definition.
I wasnt talking about agnosticism, it is independent of both theism and atheism.
I do. If you care to know, let me know. Otherwise, I'll assume this isn't an actual question.
Don’t you think rejecting theism or rejecting deity is similar?