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Why Religion Won't Go Away

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Agondonter

Active Member
Interesting, but there are theists who say God does not exist. Are they therefore atheists? Many "atheist" Buddhists are careful to say they do not believe in a Creator God, but that is not to say they are atheists in the customary sense of the word.

The point is that religion has innumerable vehicles to bring it alive; atheism has rocks. ;)
 
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Agondonter

Active Member
Carlita said:
Once that's asked, they enter the next stage of maturity and natural human growth of "I don't know."
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Right, but 'I don't know' does not obviate understanding concepts. "In the end, we know God as unknown." Any guesses about who said that?
 
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Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Agondonter said:
Right, but 'I don't know' does not obviate understanding concepts. "In the end, we know God as unknown." Any guesses about who said that?
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Once one says, accepts, and admits they don't know, they cease the need to place god labels on life. So, instead of saying "god is a mystery. We don't know why god would put us into that position" maybe its more "It's just a mystery. I don't know how I got into this position" and accept it for what it is without attributing it to someone or something that is unknown.
 
LuisDantas

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Agondonter said:
Interesting, but there are theists who say God does not exist. Are they therefore atheists? Many "atheist" Buddhists are careful to say they do not believe in a Creator God, but that is not to say they are atheists in the customary sense of the word.

The point is that religion has innumerable vehicles to bring it alive; atheism has rocks. ;)
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Now I know for a fact that you hold weird understandings of atheism.
 
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Agondonter

Active Member
Carlita said:
Once one says, accepts, and admits they don't know, they cease the need to place god labels on life. So, instead of saying "god is a mystery. We don't know why god would put us into that position" maybe its more "It's just a mystery. I don't know how I got into this position" and accept it for what it is without attributing it to someone or something that is unknown.
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We still need understanding concepts in order to function as human beings
 
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Unveiled Artist

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Agondonter said:
Society still requires labels in order to function.
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Spiritually, I feel labels are a hindrance. I mean, if I'm talking about an automobile and really wanted to refer to a Ford, then I use that label. If I want to pray, that's just what I do. There is no attachment to who or what I pray to, because it doesn't matter. It's not a necessity to society; just many religious make it as such. Live life and only label what you need to. World is crowded enough with misplaced labels.
 
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Agondonter

Active Member
LuisDantas said:
Now I know for a fact that you hold weird understandings of atheism.
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Perhaps, but what do you proffer as your final explanation for the way things are? What do you deduce from your experiencing of the world? What beliefs constitute your conceptual frame of reference? Why are things the way they are? How do we originate?
 
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Agondonter

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Carlita said:
Spiritually, I feel labels are a hindrance. I mean, if I'm talking about an automobile and really wanted to refer to a Ford, then I use that label. If I want to pray, that's just what I do. There is no attachment to who or what I pray to, because it doesn't matter. It's not a necessity to society; just many religious make it as such. Live life and only label what you need to. World is crowded enough with misplaced labels.
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I have no problem with that, but what has that to do with religion not going away? As I said previously, I make a distinction between religion as such and the ideas that serve as its vehicle.
 
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Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Agondonter said:
I have no problem with that, but what has that to do with religion not going away? As I said previously, I make a distinction between religion as such and the ideas that serve as its vehicle.
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I just commented on a post. I don't understand the OP. I see religion as a practice of someone's spirituality. If it went away, that's like tearing up someone's life.
 
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Agondonter

Active Member
Riverwolf said:
Wanting answers and formulating understanding. What do these have to do with religion?
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It goes with being human. "We want to make sense of what we see around us and to ask: What is the nature of the universe? What is our place in it and where did it and we come from? Why is it the way it is?" -- Stephen Hawking
 
Riverwolf

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
Agondonter said:
It goes with being human. "We want to make sense of what we see around us and to ask: What is the nature of the universe? What is our place in it and where did it and we come from? Why is it the way it is?" -- Stephen Hawking
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But my question remains unanswered: what does this have to do with religion?

Not all religions are about answers.
 
arthra

arthra

Baha'i
I really don't see anything inherently improbable about a theory of multiverses.. It may controversial but there have been some interesting arguments for it...

See:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse

Baha'is believe there are spiritual worlds aside from this world we live in and that the creation process has been going on forever.. from the "beginning that hath no beginning":

Know that it is one of the most abstruse spiritual truths that the world of existence, that is to say this endless universe, has no beginning.

(Abdu'l-Baha, Baha'i World Faith - Abdu'l-Baha Section, p. 297)

To man, the Essence of God is incomprehensible, so also are the worlds beyond this, and their condition.

(Abdu'l-Baha, Abdu'l-Baha in London, p. 66)
 
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