Good post.:yes:
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Why so unpleasant?
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Good post.:yes:
I have just removed myself permanently from a Christian forum, which I only joined a few days ago. To say I was sickened by the attitude of some of the fundies on there would be an understatement. Rabid is the only word to describe them, how they had the temerity to describe themselves as Christians beats me. They majored on hate. One told me that they would enjoy seeing me burn in hell. It takes a lot to shock me these days, but their attitude to those who didn't see it their unpleasant way was so horrible one felt tainted by their evil nastiness.
Nerthus
Wanderlust
I have been on a Christian forum for a while and felt disgusted that people could treat others the way they did. I was sent a warning for saying in a thread that I think homosexuality is okay and that people should not be so concerned with the private lives of others. It's the main thing that turned me away from the religion.
They argued it was loving, but in reality they are being utterly disrespectful, rude and cruel.
They argued it was loving, but in reality they are being utterly disrespectful, rude and cruel.
The attitude of some Christians to homosexuality is pure evil. A thread on that particular forum I mentioned, suggested gays be executed!
I have found that most people treat me the same way I treat them. There are always one or two people that don't fit the rule, but for the most part- it is true.
I have found that most people treat me the same way I treat them. There are always one or two people that don't fit the rule, but for the most part- it is true.
Extreme fundies are a people apart in my experience, they don't seem to fit the normal rules of behaviour.
Nerthus
Wanderlust
The attitude of some Christians to homosexuality is pure evil. A thread on that particular forum I mentioned, suggested gays be executed!
Wow, nice.
One could argue that the various religions spouting various threats to each other and to others is an evil lifestyle in itself.
The way many of them do it looks so silly from the outside, and shows their personality for what it is.
Look at the bright side....more time for your here!
We appreciate you.
I speculate that they give you a harder time than they would
me, since you were once one of them, & rejected the faith.
I stay away from those Christian Forums, too. Even I, as a Christian, have been told I am headed for hell. And for what, you may ask? Because I didn't agree with them on some minor issue. They would never "agree to disagree" (which what I use when a debate is going around in circles and there is no way to convince each other). But then, I have seen some unpleasantness on non-Christian forums (the difference is that no one was sending me to hell on those, )
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ZooGirl02
Well-Known Member
Personally I think that God is offended by these types of fundamentalists. This type of fundamentalist is very uncharitable in that they believe that all those who are not "saved" are bound for Hell. Essentially these fundamentalists make those who are not "saved" out to be their enemies. Jesus called us to love our neighbor as ourselves, not to delight in the idea that "sinners" will burn in Hell for eternity.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Wow, where you guys are finding these fundamentalist forums - and why you're even wasting your time on them for five minutes is beyond me. That would be like me joining a Communist group and then being offended by the stances of some of the more extreme members. I'd know going into it that I was likely to get ****** off in pretty short order - and that I would be running into unsavory types. Why would I be surprised? Better yet - why would I even join the forum in the first place?
Unless...unless I had a bone to pick and enjoyed challenging people I disagree with - so much so that I went looking for a fight in some sort of attempt to banish former demons from my psyche.
Unless...unless I had a bone to pick and enjoyed challenging people I disagree with - so much so that I went looking for a fight in some sort of attempt to banish former demons from my psyche.
Unpleasant religious people are not exactly some fringe minority.
The Pew survey, significant for the breadth and depth made possible by its unusually large 35,000-person sample, found that 74 percent of Americans say they think there is a heaven, "where people who have led good lives are eternally rewarded," while just 59 percent think there is a hell, "where people who have led bad lives, and die without being sorry, are eternally punished."
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2008/06/29/what_lies_beneath/?page=1
"Just" 59 percent of Americans believe in eternal punishment. It's a majority. I hear other countries are less like this.
The Pew survey, significant for the breadth and depth made possible by its unusually large 35,000-person sample, found that 74 percent of Americans say they think there is a heaven, "where people who have led good lives are eternally rewarded," while just 59 percent think there is a hell, "where people who have led bad lives, and die without being sorry, are eternally punished."
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2008/06/29/what_lies_beneath/?page=1
"Just" 59 percent of Americans believe in eternal punishment. It's a majority. I hear other countries are less like this.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
This does not mean that they WANT anyone to be doomed to hell - or that they take any sort of pleasure from that idea.
It's one thing to say, "I believe that hell exists." That doesn't mean they are saying, "Woooohoooo, burn in hell, you damned pagans!"
Many Christians are not only very saddened by that concept - they also follow the teachings of the New Testament, which tell us that we should not just blithely assume that we are "in" just because we believe in the tenets of Christianity. Even the demons believe - and tremble.
I am not suggesting that all of those that believe in hell like the concept.
But those that do believe in it, tend to accept it. It doesn't make them love their deity any less, and they believe they can be happy with such a deity with knowledge of immense and unceasing suffering. A person who feels that they can find happiness in a universe with knowledge that others are unceasingly suffering is "unpleasant" (to say the least) to me. Such people, by definition, have a severe deficiency in empathy.
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No.
Who does suffering benefit, let alone unceasing suffering? Punishment and captivity are useful to:
a) Keep other people safe.
b) Rehabilitate those that can be rehabilitated in the hope of turning criminals of lesser crimes into decent citizens, especially since so many of them are in the situation partially due to unfavorable conditions in life.
c) Act as a scary deterrence to doing crime. (Appealing to the more primitive aspects of human morality.)
d) Allowing victims to feel some sort of satisfaction or sense of balance. (Arguably the least noble of the four reasons, but few people would wish for evil behavior to go unchecked.)
So what purpose would a hell serve? Basically, it only serves the purpose of the bottom two reasons. It serves as a deterrence to those that actually believe such stuff (serving as excellent population control), and it serves to satisfy sadism of believers and their gods. It does not keep others safe (as death alone is sufficient) nor does it rehabilitate (as it's unceasing).
If the punishment should fit the crime, I'd suppose that those closest to deserving hell are those that would agree to inflict it on others (certain gods, believers, etc.), as they would willingly cause, allow, or accept an infinite amount of suffering of another being (which is far beyond anything a mere rapist or murderer or terrorist has done). And yet, I wouldn't even wish it on them at all.
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Noaidi
slow walker
I get this regularly from my pupils. Like they're in a position to judge me...
I've recently been told that 'I'm shrouded in evil and steeped in sin'. Nice.
Man, that hurts. Wirey used to be accused by parishioners of being Satan's spawn, the Lord of Darkness, evil incarnate, The Beast,
a festering pustule of malevolence, a dangerous creep, a vile toad, a serpent king, an extended warranty salesman, a violent boor,
foul-mouthed lout & a malignant waste of a sub-human being. He was so hurt that he immediately resigned as their priest.