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why some of arabs hate USA?

moegypt

Active Member
Well as arabian I don not hate Americans because Iam American! & Egyptian.

I think the main reasons of why some arabs hate USA and the main reasons also of the terrorist attacks against US are:

1- The unlimited support of US to Israel ( which was illegaly born in the arabian land by the jewish groups against palestine)

2- The American war in Islamic countries ( Iraq,Afghanistan, may be Iran..)

3- US owns nuclear weapons and at the same time want to prevent it from any other side.. US should start by itself towards peacful world!

what do you think?
 

Aquitaine

Well-Known Member
Well as arabian I don not hate Americans because Iam American! & Egyptian.
I think the main reasons of why some arabs hate USA and the main reasons also of the terrorist attacks against US are:

1- The unlimited support of US to Israel ( which was illegaly born in the arabian land by the jewish groups against palestine)

2- The American war in Islamic countries ( Iraq,Afghanistan, may be Iran..)

3- US owns nuclear weapons and at the same time want to prevent it from any other side.. US should start by itself towards peacful world!

what do you think?


With regards to point #1, I think it is pointless to call a nation "illegal" or the land "property" of some other country. The area that Israel occupies isn't "Arab's land" or anything, no-one truely owns any land.

That aside, I think people hate the US government for those reasons (ie the Bush era) etc, it would be foolish for them to hate the US people because of it.
 

.lava

Veteran Member
Well as arabian I don not hate Americans because Iam American! & Egyptian.

I think the main reasons of why some arabs hate USA and the main reasons also of the terrorist attacks against US are:

1- The unlimited support of US to Israel ( which was illegaly born in the arabian land by the jewish groups against palestine)

2- The American war in Islamic countries ( Iraq,Afghanistan, may be Iran..)

3- US owns nuclear weapons and at the same time want to prevent it from any other side.. US should start by itself towards peacful world!

what do you think?

i think hate is from Satan. does not matter what or who you hate. hate is always from Satan. therefor the main answer to your question would be those Arabs do not know Islam well enough. i do not approve what USA does. yet hate is another issue that one must fight within. those emotions are never right.





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Caladan

Agnostic Pantheist
Well as arabian I don not hate Americans because Iam American! & Egyptian.

I think the main reasons of why some arabs hate USA and the main reasons also of the terrorist attacks against US are:

1- The unlimited support of US to Israel ( which was illegaly born in the arabian land by the jewish groups against palestine)
I always find that argument puzzling. its like admitting that the passionate hatred in Arab lands to the west, is in itself rooted in a more passionated hatred- to Israel. which is of course a collection of horse manure. there are many Islamist terrorist attacks in nations around the world from the far east, to Europe, to South America, the middle east, and North America. are you saying that all these attacks and hatred behind them are as a result of support for Israel?
as for your other part of that point. Israel was born LEGALLY, by UN mandate and under consensus of the nations of the world in the United Nations general assembly. it was not born by 'jewish groups' but by international consensus, further more the 'jewish groups' did not act against 'Palestine', because there was never a nation of Palestine. before the state of Israel was born, the geographic region called 'Palestine' was under British governing, and before that under Turkish governing.

3- US owns nuclear weapons and at the same time want to prevent it from any other side.. US should start by itself towards peacful world!

what do you think?
Many Arab governments would disagree with you, as they themselves do not desire Iran to develop nuclear weapons in the future.
 

Aquitaine

Well-Known Member
i think hate is from Satan. does not matter what or who you hate. hate is always from Satan. therefor the main answer to your question would be those Arabs do not know Islam well enough. i do not approve what USA does. yet hate is another issue that one must fight within. those emotions are never right.


You do not believe in justified hate? Hate doesn't neccesarily mean violence or any physical/verbal aggression. For example, I hate specific things, doesn't mean I'm gonna do any harm etc.

Do you believe it's wrong to even think about hating something/someone?
 

.lava

Veteran Member
You do not believe in justified hate? Hate doesn't neccesarily mean violence or any physical/verbal aggression. For example, I hate specific things, doesn't mean I'm gonna do any harm etc.

Do you believe it's wrong to even think about hating something/someone?

i am aware of many people use love and hate as matter of speech. but as an emotion hate is not just lack of love. hate is a vice of ego which is negative. one needs to fight against it. violence could be result of it. first comes one vice of ego like hate, rage, jealousy...etc. that one submits himself to then action follows.





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Sahar

Well-Known Member
i think hate is from Satan. does not matter what or who you hate. hate is always from Satan. therefor the main answer to your question would be those Arabs do not know Islam well enough. i do not approve what USA does. yet hate is another issue that one must fight within. those emotions are never right.





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Hate sometimes is the healthy emotion to have, who don't hate injustice, evil, murder except someone who is sick?
We all love and hate. This is the human being.
And I do hate USA injustice and terrorism towards Muslims.
 
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Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Hate sometimes is the healthy emotion to have, who don't hate injustice, evil, murder except someone who is sick?
We all love and hate. This is the human being.
And I do hate USA injustice and terrorism towards Muslims.

It is not necessary to hate injustice in order to act justly. People who hate, tend to over-react, creating more injustice. Hatred is not a necessary emotion. It is closely linked to fear and egotism. It is not even, properly speaking, the opposite of love. In fact, the world would not miss hate if it disappeared.
 

Dezzie

Well-Known Member
Well as arabian I don not hate Americans because Iam American! & Egyptian.

I think the main reasons of why some arabs hate USA and the main reasons also of the terrorist attacks against US are:

1- The unlimited support of US to Israel ( which was illegaly born in the arabian land by the jewish groups against palestine)

2- The American war in Islamic countries ( Iraq,Afghanistan, may be Iran..)

3- US owns nuclear weapons and at the same time want to prevent it from any other side.. US should start by itself towards peacful world!

what do you think?

I do believe these very well could be some of the reasons. It still doesn't make it right to hate the whole US population though. The government normally makes all the decisions, not the people. If we had a poll on whether or not the war was smart, I think a lot of American people would not have agreed with it.

I honestly believe that 9/11 was something the government did... maybe not but seriously... There are so many things about Bush that were quite odd. I do not think he was a very good President, nor did he make the right decisions. Basically what I am trying to say is that, the whole American population is not bad and do not agree with what Bush encouraged. I think many Arabs need to realize that a lot of the American population care... I'm American and I think the war was stupid... Bush was not a good President and I have never believed killing each other is the answer. I believe in a peaceful world, just as a lot of American's also feel. The American people would love a peaceful world but who makes the decisions? The Government. Basically it all comes down to them and what they think is right. Okay... so we can vote. So what. There are still rules through out the Government that only they follow. :shrug: We're not all mean and want to harm... I swear. All I want to see is love and compassion with all Foreign Countries! Love and Peace are two beautiful things... and by far we need more of it!
 

Sahar

Well-Known Member
It is not necessary to hate injustice in order to act justly. People who hate, tend to over-react, creating more injustice. Hatred is not a necessary emotion. It is closely linked to fear and egotism. It is not even, properly speaking, the opposite of love. In fact, the world would not miss hate if it disappeared.
We have to be more realistic. Negative emotions like fear and hatred can be necessary for a positive change and even for our survival. It's all about balance. The appropriate emotion(s) for its (their) appropriate place and circumstance.
 
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Kerr

Well-Known Member
We have to be more realistic. Negative emotions like fear and hate can be necessary for a positive change and even for our survival. It's all about balance. The appropriate emotion(s) for its (their) appropriate place and circumstance.
Hate is like fire. It can keep you warm, but it can also burn down your house.
 

Sahar

Well-Known Member
Hate is like fire. It can keep you warm, but it can also burn down your house.
When it's put in its appropriate context, it shouldn't burn you down especially if it was used as a motive for avoiding harm...etc or for a positive change.
 

Kerr

Well-Known Member
When it's put in its appropriate context, it shouldn't burn you down especially if it was used as a motive for avoiding harm...etc or for a positive change.
Even in the right context, it can burn you. Hate is destructive in nature, I am not saying you shouldn´t hate I am saying you should be careful with it, so it does not cloud your judgment.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Hate sometimes is the healthy emotion to have,
I'd like to see you actually back this statement up with something other than your opinion. Personally, I am a bit skeptical.

who don't hate injustice, evil, murder except someone who is sick?
I do not hate injustice. I don't like it either. Injustice is what it is. There is no reason to complicate his with an unnecessary emotion.
I do not hate evil simply because I do not believe in such primitive value judgments.
I do not hate murder, but neither do I like murder. It is something people with hate in their hearts do to others. I refuse to become like them.

If that makes me sick then I don't know what to say to you other than you are wrong.

We all love and hate. This is the human being.
No, I find love fills me with enough emotion. I don't need hatred thanks. Does that make me subhuman to you?

And I do hate USA injustice and terrorism towards Muslims.
Heck, not4me, I don't even hate Islam, though it is true to say that I have grave reservation about the wisdom of some of its teachings. Hatred gets you nowhere -- very quickly.
 

Sahar

Well-Known Member
Even in the right context, it can burn you. Hate is destructive in nature, I am not saying you shouldn´t hate I am saying you should be careful with it, so it does not cloud your judgment.
And it could be constructive, this is what I am trying to say. I hate injustice, I don't want to see anyone being subjected to injustice...I don't see until now how it clouded my judgment, the next step: I will try my best to help those subjected to it or prevent anyone from being subjected to it. It could be hate, anger...etc in this case, and I can't see how this isn't healthy. :sarcastic
 

Onkara

Well-Known Member
what do you think?
It is a historic problem which has been inherited by the present day world. The "problem" has been fueled by war and other horrors.

The source begins with Arab Nationalism and the Zionist Movement which were born in the late 1800s. Confused and perhaps betrayed by the Belfour Declaration of 1917.

Add variations in religion, then the belief that killing bodies will solve a problem on top of modern day economical politics and you have a snowball effect of problems to resolve.

peace!
 
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Kerr

Well-Known Member
And it could be constructive, this is what I am trying to say. I hate injustice, I don't want to see anyone being subjected to injustice...I don't see until now how it clouded my judgment, the next step: I will try my best to help those subjected to it or prevent anyone from being subjected to it. It could be hate, anger...etc in this case, and I can't see how this isn't healthy. :sarcastic
Hate is destructive, just as anger. Destruction is sometimes neccessary. If a man tries to kill someone I love and I kill him first, then I have not done something constructive, I have done what was demanded of me. But if a man kills my love, and a year later I go home to him and kill him and his wife in front of their kids, then it has gone too far.
 

Sahar

Well-Known Member
I'd like to see you actually back this statement up with something other than your opinion. Personally, I am a bit skeptical.

I do not hate injustice. I don't like it either. Injustice is what it is. There is no reason to complicate his with an unnecessary emotion.
I do not hate evil simply because I do not believe in such primitive value judgments.
I do not hate murder, but neither do I like murder. It is something people with hate in their hearts do to others. I refuse to become like them.

If that makes me sick then I don't know what to say to you other than you are wrong.

No, I find love fills me with enough emotion. I don't need hatred thanks. Does that make me subhuman to you?

Heck, not4me, I don't even hate Islam, though it is true to say that I have grave reservation about the wisdom of some of its teachings. Hatred gets you nowhere -- very quickly.
What's the difference between "I hate", "I dislike" and "I don't like"?
 

EtuMalku

Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
i think hate is from Satan. does not matter what or who you hate. hate is always from Satan. therefor the main answer to your question would be those Arabs do not know Islam well enough. i do not approve what USA does. yet hate is another issue that one must fight within. those emotions are never right.
I think you are quite incorrect with your scapegoat Satan theory. Satan has nothing to do with Hate, most of all the hate that the Muslim/Arab world has for the United States and Jews.

Arabs who hate us don't want a free and open society; they want an Islamic totalitarian one. American influence in the Arab world prevents our haters there from imposing their vicious expression of Islam.

Our support for Israel's security further inflames the hatred of those Arabs (and Muslims elsewhere) who hate us. But why do they hate Israel? Why are they so obsessed with a tiny state in a part of the Arab and Islamic world that they utterly ignored until Jews made a civilization there?

Because America's and Israel's haters are ethnic and religious haters on a magnitude not seen since the Nazis. They loathe everything Israel (and its American supporter) represents -- freedom, democracy, openness, individual autonomy, freedom of religion, pluralism, women's equality and sexual freedom.

They want Israel dead. Gone. Exterminated. They say so publicly, and they say so in polls. Yet, the educated fools and the Israel- and America-haters of the West ignore all this and blame Israel for trying to exist and America for enabling it to do so.

Arab and other Muslims who hate America do so:

  • Because America alone (and the little America in the Middle East, Israel) prevents the expansion of Islamic rule.
  • Because expansionist totalitarian movements, whether Soviet communism or radical Islam, always hate free societies, and America is the strongest free society.
  • Because America is not only strong, it is religious (as opposed to Europe, which is weak and irreligious).
  • Because America is not only Christian; it is Judeo-Christian, the two religions the Islamists need to overcome to expand globally.
So, in some ways you ARE correct in that Satan (which means Adversary) is at the heart of Hatred, the only difference here is that Satan / Adversary lives within the soul of Islam not in the US.
 
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