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why some of arabs hate USA?

Kerr

Well-Known Member
Regarding the topic at hand, I understand the hate. I really do. And to be honest, there are many things with the US I do not like myself. But when someone let innocent people get caught in the cross fire, or when innocent people becomes the targets of the fire, then it has gone over the line. And that applies to everyone.
 

.lava

Veteran Member
I think you are quite incorrect with your scapegoat Satan theory. Satan has nothing to do with Hate, most of all the hate that the Muslim/Arab world has for the United States and Jews.

Arabs who hate us don't want a free and open society; they want an Islamic totalitarian one. American influence in the Arab world prevents our haters there from imposing their vicious expression of Islam.

Our support for Israel's security further inflames the hatred of those Arabs (and Muslims elsewhere) who hate us. But why do they hate Israel? Why are they so obsessed with a tiny state in a part of the Arab and Islamic world that they utterly ignored until Jews made a civilization there?

Because America's and Israel's haters are ethnic and religious haters on a magnitude not seen since the Nazis. They loathe everything Israel (and its American supporter) represents -- freedom, democracy, openness, individual autonomy, freedom of religion, pluralism, women's equality and sexual freedom.

They want Israel dead. Gone. Exterminated. They say so publicly, and they say so in polls. Yet, the educated fools and the Israel- and America-haters of the West ignore all this and blame Israel for trying to exist and America for enabling it to do so.

Arab and other Muslims who hate America do so:

  • Because America alone (and the little America in the Middle East, Israel) prevents the expansion of Islamic rule.
  • Because expansionist totalitarian movements, whether Soviet communism or radical Islam, always hate free societies, and America is the strongest free society.
  • Because America is not only strong, it is religious (as opposed to Europe, which is weak and irreligious).
  • Because America is not only Christian; it is Judeo-Christian, the two religions the Islamists need to overcome to expand globally.
So, in some ways you ARE correct in that Satan (which means Adversary) is at the heart of Hatred, the only difference here is that Satan / Adversary lives within the soul of Islam not in the US.

please stop telling me what you wish for and what does it have to do with original post? someone asked a question and i told my opinion on it. why do you feel like you need to attack me and my religion? is this some kind of new habit that some do blindly?





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zenzero

Its only a Label
Friend moeygpt,

why some of arabs hate USA?

Well there is never peace to be found at any time outside of the individual.
Peace is when the mind is at peace.
Mind is at peace when it is free of *thoughts*.
Only when the earth is filled with everyone with still minds, can peace be on EARTH.
Till then keep asking such questions and getting all kinds of replies.
Love & rgds
 

EtuMalku

Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
please stop telling me what you wish for and what does it have to do with original post? someone asked a question and i told my opinion on it. why do you feel like you need to attack me and my religion? is this some kind of new habit that some do blindly?





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OP: why some of arabs hate USA? What don't you understand? And being that I follow a Satanist / Luciferian path I suppose it is alright for you to attack my beliefs? You're in a Debate forum anyway.
 

.lava

Veteran Member
OP: why some of arabs hate USA? What don't you understand? And being that I follow a Satanist / Luciferian path I suppose it is alright for you to attack my beliefs? You're in a Debate forum anyway.

what are you talking about? when did i attack your beliefs? i was not even aware you were Luciferian.






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Sajdah

Al-Aqsa Is In My Heart.
Well as arabian I don not hate Americans because Iam American! & Egyptian.

I don't think that Arabs hate Americans (the people), it is all about the American government, and those (even if they were Arabs) who support its oppression and injustice towards Muslims in general, and Arabs in particular...
 

MissAlice

Well-Known Member
I think people are entitled to their opinions and for me I guess it wouldn't be so much hate but certain aspects I don't like about our U.S. government.

It would almost be a double standard if I were to say I hate Egypt or Saudi Arabia, I'm sure people would probably think I was being an Islamophobe or even worse.....racist if I didn't carefully word myself. There are likes and dislikes just as any country but I tend to agree that it is a bit ridiculous how much we're spending on these nonesense wars and Israel. It'd be nice if our country would stay out of everyone's business unless of course there's a good reason which so far there hasn't been. And you know, I use to think the U.S. was under the people's best interests, now I know better....
 
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England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
Well as arabian I don not hate Americans because Iam American! & Egyptian.
Good,hate isn't a good thing

I think the main reasons of why some arabs hate USA and the main reasons also of the terrorist attacks against US are:

1- The unlimited support of US to Israel ( which was illegaly born in the arabian land by the jewish groups against palestine)

Illegaly born,wrong,history says otherwise

2- The American war in Islamic countries ( Iraq,Afghanistan, may be Iran..)
Ah the shrinking Ummah

3- US owns nuclear weapons and at the same time want to prevent it from any other side.. US should start by itself towards peacful world!

There are many countries that don't want Iran to have Nuclear weapons,even Russia are nervous of that

what do you think?

I think Israel should be left in peace and Palestinians come to their senses,there is much they could learn from Israel.
 

kai

ragamuffin
Well as arabian I don not hate Americans because Iam American! & Egyptian.

I think the main reasons of why some arabs hate USA and the main reasons also of the terrorist attacks against US are:
Are they reasons ? are you speculating? are they justification enough for murder?
1- The unlimited support of US to Israel ( which was illegaly born in the arabian land by the jewish groups against palestine)
So this somehow justifies attacks on US citizens?
2- The American war in Islamic countries ( Iraq,Afghanistan, may be Iran..)
So this justifies what exactly?
3- US owns nuclear weapons and at the same time want to prevent it from any other side.. US should start by itself towards peacful world!
so Arabs hate the US because they have nuclear weapons ?
what do you think?


I think all those "reasons" are used by some people to justify the incitement of murder. I also think its time Arabs got their on house in order and stop blaming the US for everything that is wrong in the Arab world.
 
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YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
What's the difference between "I hate", "I dislike" and "I don't like"?
I have to explain this, not4me?

Main Entry: dis·like
Pronunciation: \(ˌ)dis-ˈlīk, ˈdis-ˌ\
Function: noun
Date: 1567
1 : a feeling of aversion or disapproval
2 obsolete : discord



Main Entry: hate
Pronunciation: \ˈhāt\
Function: noun
Usage: often attributive
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English hete; akin to Old High German haz hate, Greek kēdos care
Date: before 12th century
1 a : intense hostility and aversion usually deriving from fear, anger, or sense of injury b : extreme dislike or antipathy : loathing <had a great hate of hard work>
2 : an object of hatred <a generation whose finest hate had been big business &#8212; F. L. Paxson>


It's sort of like the difference between being religious and being a religious fanatic. The key part is the extreme standpoint taken.
 

.lava

Veteran Member
I cant see any comment for anyone! pls if someone can help send me private message.

IMO, most of people who stand against USA government (not just Arabs or Muslims) are seeing double standards of their policies. today for USA government any kind of decision is acceptable if it is going to serve interest of USA and by USA i do not mean American public. i wish USA government cared for American people.

yet on the other hand some Eastern governments that run by Muslim are not better than USA government. because they sacrifice their own people to cooperate with USA govern. IMO publics, ordinary people who does not have firms are pretty much left alone, abused and told lie.

here you go, just a few days ago i read this news about USA's best customers, some nations who buy weapons from USA...

United Arab Emirates: 7.9 billion dollars
Afghanistan: 5.4 billion dollars
Suudi Arabia: 3.3 billion dollars
Egypt: 2.1 billion dollars
Iraq: 1.6 billion dollars

what shall we think about this numbers? who's money is that? there's no more poverty in Muslim nations? do Muslim need USA to change to change their own in a better way? i don't think so. all the goverments are playing the same game TOGETHER. none of them care for public. IMO






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DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
IMO, most of people who stand against USA government (not just Arabs or Muslims) are seeing double standards of their policies. today for USA government any kind of decision is acceptable if it is going to serve interest of USA and by USA i do not mean American public. i wish USA government cared for American people.

yet on the other hand some Eastern governments that run by Muslim are not better than USA government. because they sacrifice their own people to cooperate with USA govern. IMO publics, ordinary people who does not have firms are pretty much left alone, abused and told lie.

here you go, just a few days ago i read this news about USA's best customers, some nations who buy weapons from USA...

United Arab Emirates: 7.9 billion dollars
Afghanistan: 5.4 billion dollars
Suudi Arabia: 3.3 billion dollars
Egypt: 2.1 billion dollars
Iraq: 1.6 billion dollars

what shall we think about this numbers? who's money is that? there's no more poverty in Muslim nations? do Muslim need USA to change to change their own in a better way? i don't think so. all the goverments are playing the same game TOGETHER. none of them care for public. IMO






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It does sound like a game.

"Would you like a big gun? Or would you like a BIG BIG gun because we are all out of BIG AMO". (quote from Harry and the Hendersons).

Love

Dallas
 

maro

muslimah
I adore how the quran handles th 'hate' issue...

it doesn't say "love your enemy " or " if someone slapped you on the face ,turn the other side "....
the quran doesn't ask us what we can't afford...all it says :

[5:8]......and do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from being just. Be just; that is nearer to righteousness. And fear All&#257;h; indeed, All&#257;h is Acquainted with what you do.
 

maro

muslimah
Your post contains a mixture of what the quran says and your (or the website's ) conclusions about what the quran seems to say....this is what i call ' dishonesty '

If you are brave enough to recognize the dishonesty in your earlier post..i'll answer it in the Islam DIR...if you are not ,then good luck
 

EtuMalku

Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
Your post contains a mixture of what the quran says and your (or the website's ) conclusions about what the quran seems to say....this is what i call ' dishonesty 'Fine, let's start with "of what the quran says" . . . shall we?

If you are brave enough to recognize the dishonesty in your earlier post..i'll answer it in the Islam DIR...if you are not ,then good luck
Answer it.
 

moegypt

Active Member
Maro, being a woman (at least I believe you are from your name & pic), you go along with this?

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Women in the Quran And call two witness from among your men, two witnesses. And if two men be not at hand, then a man and two women.--2:282

  1. It's OK to have sex with your wives on the night of the fast. 2:187
  2. Menstruation is a sickness. Don't have sex with menstruating women. 2:222
  3. Have sex with your women whenever and as often as you like. 2:223
  4. Women have rights that are similar to men, but men are "a degree above them." 2:228
  5. A woman is worth one-half a man. 2:282
  6. "Marry of the women, who seem good to you, two or three or four." 4:3
  7. Males are to inherit twice that of females. 4:11
  8. Lewd women are to be confined to their houses until death. 4:15
  9. You may not forcibly inherit women, unless they flagrantly lewd. 4:19
  10. Instructions for exchanging wives 4:20
  11. "All married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess."
    You can't have sex with married women, unless they are slaves obtained in war (with whom you may rape or do whatever you like). 4:24
  12. Men are in charge of women, because Allah made men to be better than women. Refuse to have sex with women from whom you fear rebellion, and scourge them. 4:34
  13. Don't pray if you are drunk, dirty, or have touched a woman lately. 4:43
  14. Women are feeble and are unable to devise a plan. 4:98
  15. They invoke in his (Allah's) stead only females. 4:117
  16. A man cannot treat his wives fairly. 4:129
  17. "Unto the male is the equivalent share of two females." 4:176
  18. When it's time to pray and you have just used the toilet or touched a woman, be sure to wash up. If you can't find any water, just rub some dirt on yourself. 5:6
  19. Men and women are enemies! (Or is it humans and Iblis? Sometimes Allah isn't all that clear about these things.) 7:24 If your ... your wives ... are dearer to you than Allah and His messenger ... then wait till Allah bringeth His command to pass." 9:24
  20. Lot offers his daughters to a mob of angel rapers. 11:78
  21. "The guile of you women ... is very great." 12:28
  22. Lot offers his daughters to a mob of angel rapers. 15:71
  23. When the doom of Allah comes, pregnant women will suffer miscarriages, nursing mothers with forget their babies. 22:1-2
  24. You don't have to be modest around your wives or your slave girls "that your right hand possess." 23:6
  25. If you accuse an honorable women of adultery, be sure to bring four witness. Otherwise you will receive 80 lashes. 24:4
  26. A husband can accuse his wife of adultery with only one witness. 24:6
  27. Believing women must lower their gaze and be modest, cover themselves with veils, and not reveal themselves except to their husbands, relatives, children, and slaves. 24:31
  28. If Muhammad's wives are good, Allah will give them "an immense reward." 33:28-29
  29. The wives of Muhammad will be punished double for lewdness. (And that is easy for Allah.) 33:30
  30. The wives of Muhammad are not like other women. They must not leave their houses. 33:32-33
  31. When Allah or Muhammad decide that a man and a woman should marry, they must marry. 33:36
  32. Allah gave Zeyd to Muhammad in marriage. This was so that all Muslims would know that it's OK to marry your adopted son's ex-wife. 33:37
  33. Allah says it is lawful for Muhammad to marry any women he wants. 33:50-51
  34. If men must speak to Muhammad's wives they must speak from behind a curtain. And no one must ever marry one of his wives. 33:53
  35. But it's OK for Muhammad's wives to talk with certain people. 33:55
  36. Women must cover themselves when in public. 33:59
  37. Those who "did wrong" will go to hell, and their wives will go to hell with them (no matter how they behaved). 37:22-23
  38. But the single-minded slaves of Allah will enjoy a Garden filled with lovely-eyed virgins. 37:40-48
  39. Female companions await those who enter the Gardens of Eden on the Day of Reckoning. 38:52
  40. Allah will reward faithful Muslims after they die with "fair ones with wide, lovely eyes." 44:54
  41. Allah will reward those in the Garden with beautiful wives with wide, lovely eyes. 52:20
  42. Those who disbelieve in the afterlife give female names to angels. 53:27
  43. Allah will give those in the Garden women of modest gaze whom neither man nor jinn have touched before them. 55:56
  44. Allah will reward believing men with "fair ones" (beautiful women) in heaven. 55:71-72
  45. Those in the Garden will be attended by immortal youths with wide, lovely eyes. 56:17-23
  46. Allah made virgins to be lovers and friends to those on his right hand. 56:36-37
  47. Your wives and children are your enemies. They are to you only a temptation. 64:14-15
  48. Instructions for divorcing your wives. 65:1-6
  49. Allah's rules for divorcing wives that have not yet reached puberty. 65:4
  50. O Prophet! Why bannest thou that which Allah hath made lawful for thee, seeking to please thy wives?"
    Allah says it's OK for Muhammad to have sex with any of his wives whenever he wants. 66:1

wowwww..copy and paste from some place!.. it is better to do real researches and if you want me to answer every point I will..but I guess you dont!
 

.lava

Veteran Member
wowwww..copy and paste from some place!.. it is better to do real researches and if you want me to answer every point I will..but I guess you dont!

yea some place where certain kind of people wrote whatever they want and call it Islam. this is must be the worst kind of slander.





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