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Why the Bible is not the word of God

xexon

Destroyer of Worlds
ÄĀṮṬØ said:
If God doesn't hate, I feel there is no reason for Him to burn Homosexuals forever (I am referring to Christianity). That accomplishes nothing, especially when they pose no threat to humanity.


What God is, and what religions say about God are two different things.

Religion is an earthly creation, by well meaning people. But, by being "of the earth", religion is also "satanic", as this world is under Satan's domain. (According to certain religions)

Religion will never show you God. It doesn't know how. It makes for nice song and dance numbers however. Churches are more of a social club for like minded individuals rather than a bus depot for the heavenly bound.

Read my sig.


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UnTheist

Well-Known Member
xexon said:
What God is, and what religions say about God are two different things.

Religion is an earthly creation, by well meaning people. But, by being "of the earth", religion is also "satanic", as this world is under Satan's domain. (According to certain religions)

Religion will never show you God. It doesn't know how. It makes for nice song and dance numbers however. Churches are more of a social club for like minded individuals rather than a bus depot for the heavenly bound.

Read my sig.


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I was simply talking about the Christian religion itself and what the Bible says. You seem to be talking about a general deity, not a God bound by any religion we know of. Am I correct?
 

xexon

Destroyer of Worlds
You are correct.

Religion forces you into the boundries it sets for you. As I am not religious in the traditional sense, I have none other than my own.

A generic God is plain and simple and naked. A religious God is not. He wears whatever clothes people dress him in.

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XAAX

Active Member
Xexon, I did do a little research into the fundamentals of the book you referenced. Is the following in accordance with your beliefs?


(2) SATGURU Sant or Satguru, is the living embodiment of God, for Life, Light and Love - the three attributes of Godhood - are fully present in him. He is charged through and through with Sat, or true Life, true Light and true Love. He is a fountainhead of Godhood and Love, and is competent to lead all the aspirants God-ward. He is a true guide on the grand road of spirituality. He is a God-man. The contact with God can be established only through His grace, for no one else can do this. The scriptures may tell us much about spirituality, for they constitute a wonderful storehouse of recorded spiritual experiences of ancient sages and seers, but they cannot give us a living touch and an actual experience of spirituality, which may be caught like an infection from the love-laden eyes of a person imbued with spirituality. Just as a lighted candle can light the unlighted candles, so also spiritual life-impulse can be transmitted by a spiritually living person.
 

xexon

Destroyer of Worlds
Its true.

When Jesus spoke that noone enters the kingdom except through him, he was in reference to this very thing. Not Jesus as a person, but as one who had attained that candle light himself.

Only one who has this light can transmit it to others.

Religion mimics the same motions, but without the light. They are little more than mimes. Devoid of what really counts.

This is the X on the treasure map.


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XAAX

Active Member
xexon said:
Its true.

When Jesus spoke that noone enters the kingdom except through him, he was in reference to this very thing. Not Jesus as a person, but as one who had attained that candle light himself.

Only one who has this light can transmit it to others.

Religion mimics the same motions, but without the light. They are little more than mimes. Devoid of what really counts.

This is the X on the treasure map.
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Ahhh, thank you...Although our beliefs do follow similar paths, that is where they fork...I follow no other to God. To me, the only true path that I have seen is within. That is my interpretation of what Jesus meant. Not to "follow him", but to follow his example. Your path is more enlightened than many others though...
 

xexon

Destroyer of Worlds
Then you should watch your steps closely.

Sooner or later, you'll take one which will have the ability to change your opinion of this.

A psychic landmine will blow off part of your ego. You'll live, and you'll remember my words when you recover yourself. :)



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XAAX

Active Member
xexon said:
Then you should watch your steps closely.

Sooner or later, you'll take one which will have the ability to change your opinion of this.

A psychic landmine will blow off part of your ego. You'll live, and you'll remember my words when you recover yourself. :)
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Oh, I have had a number of those...:)...I did not mention to you that we also have similar backgrounds...I only took the Southern Baptist to a much higher level...always makes me feel dirty mentioning that...anyway, I have had my share of spiritual missteps in the past. I don't want to go into a lot of detail. But once I found balance in the Universe...the path became crystal clear for me...mostly I spend my time analyzing visions trying to uncover the meaning in them... Since I had them, only I can truly analyze them...I also have spiritual help with that...but I wont get into that here...
 

Hacker

Well-Known Member
xexon said:
Jesus is long gone from the physical world. Masters who have passed rarely accept new disciples. Its like expecting a dead doctor to cure you.

Christians have made the fatal mistake of confusing Jesus with the only way home.

Jesus doesn't want you to worship him. He never did. He only wants you to follow the path that he so simply laid out. Jesus doesn't want to to become a Christian either. Its a dead end road. Jesus want you to become a Christ. Just like him.

A "Christ" is just a person who has merged their being into the absolute. Its like pouring a cup of water into the ocean. The lines of division disappear.

The bible has done much damage to those who seek God because it has mistakenly turned Jesus into a deity. If you stop and worship the road sign, how will you ever complete your journey?


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I agree with this, very good post!
 

Mavrikmind

Active Member
I think that the bible is an excellent guide. I for one are not going to argue wether the bible is the actual word of god or not. What I will argue is that the more we concentrate on the path thats behind us then we can't see whats in front of us. I for one would like to see where I'm going :p Personally the path ahead looks a heck of lot brighter than whats been laid out in a book.
This is just my opinion .... I may be wrong :D
 

Dirty Penguin

Master Of Ceremony
angellous_evangellous said:
Ah. The truth comes out. Our friend refused to provide anything, not even a name, so it's possible that there is more than one Roman letter.... :rolleyes:

Anyway, I can assure you that there is no such letter, at least not one that is known to anyone who seriously studies NT archeaology. It's unknown to both classical historians and NT scholars. If it does exist, it's most likely lost somewhere in the sands...

Yeah.. but he did say the letter described Jesus. Since I haven't come across any thing else this has to be the one he was talking about......even though this has been proven to be a false letter.
 

SoyLeche

meh...
DreGod07 said:
Since I haven't come across any thing else this has to be the one he was talking about.......
While I believe that the letter I have supplied is the one that was referred to...

Do you really believe that you have "come across" everything??? Why is it that if you haven't come accross it, it must not exist? :)
 

Dirty Penguin

Master Of Ceremony
And yet we make you aware of a few things.

Bick said:
The contents of the Bible deal with many subjects, yet, it is a unity. It starts with creation of the universe

No it doesn't. It starts with the reconstruction (rebuilding) of the planet earth. The word is Genesis (Bara****h) = reconstruct. The earth was already here. If your above statement was correct then much of Genesis is missing. Especially the chapters dealing with dinosaurs, prehistoric man, extinct plant life, continental shift etc.


Bick said:
It records that mankind--both Adam and Eve were in a perfect environment, in perfect fellowship with their creator, the Lord God, and yet they disobeyed one commandment: to not eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for in the day of their eating to eat, they would be dying to die.
Through Adam's one act of disobedience, death passed to all mankind, and through death, sin, in that all have sinned.
From then on, the Bible unfolds God's plan of deliverance, His purpose of salvation from death and sin for all mankind.
But His plan is to raise a people, Israel, to bless them with the land of Palestine. And through them, through King David's seed (according to the flesh), would come the Messiah, the annointed one, who will sit on David's throne in the future on earth. But, first, as was predicted centuries before, the Messiah Jesus would suffer and die on a cross as a sacrifice for the sins of the world.

Yes that bible is a great Story. A thumping good read.


Bick said:
God also has a plan for a special people, called out from both Jews and Gentiles,

Wait....wait...a mininute......If it all started with Adam and Eve and all are of the same bloodline then where in the heck does the Gentiles come in?

Are you saying there were other people on the planet during Adam and Eve?

I guess that's why he had a problem with the bible.......:thud:
 

SoyLeche

meh...
DreGod07 said:
Wait....wait...a mininute......If it all started with Adam and Eve and all are of the same bloodline then where in the heck does the Gentiles come in?
Over the next 2000 years, before Jacob. He's the one the Jews come from.
 

Dirty Penguin

Master Of Ceremony
xexon said:
God does not hate.

Religion endows God with human emotions so that lessons can be carried more effectively. Most cannot form any kind of image of God without this symbolism. Religion is highly symbolic, and they've done it for so long, they can no longer remember the reality behind the symbolism.


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The problem I have with this is you do not know this for a fact. The bible is the guide book that some people use. There are plenty of areas in the bible where God is reporting as something being good, or him seeking vengeance and just doing some google searches, that i know you are a fan of, i found this site;

http://www.churches-of-christ.net/tracts/job029u.htm

If all man had was symbolism from the start then how would he know God? Are we to take the MANY areas of the bible depicting God as angry, vengeful, jealous etc. as metaphor? Metaphor for what?.....what, another man's interpretation of scripture?
 

Dirty Penguin

Master Of Ceremony
SoyLeche said:
While I believe that the letter I have supplied is the one that was referred to...

Do you really believe that you have "come across" everything??? Why is it that if you haven't come accross it, it must not exist? :)

ok....

I have not found the letter that he might have been talking about.

goodness!!!!


Why do you believe that this is the one he was talking about?
 

Ronald

Well-Known Member
Go up in an Airplane, ten thousand feet, jump out without a parachute, prove there is a "Law of Gravity"! If a law there is a "Law Giver."
You have free will, no one forces you to obey God.
You may take the tack of the Beer Commercial, "You only go around once so grab all the gusto you can get."
But just watch out who's gusto you grab, then you will learn the meaning of breaking the law.
I agree with Noahidehiker, go in peace and be kind to everyone.
Shalom
 
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