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Why the double standard?

Koldo

Outstanding Member
You might be correct about that, but my understanding is that kids in Gaza were subjected to violent anti-semitism teaching long before 10/7. I think the only answer is for Muslims to decide that Islamism and terrorism need to stop - around the world, not just around Israel. Because we know that Muslims are the most frequent victims of Islamism and terrorism.

Israel made anti-semitism and Islamism completely unnecessary to breed terrorists in Gaza. Imagine a child right now going through all of this, some loved ones died, others maimed. Imagine this child, 5 years from now, being granted the opportunity for revenge.
 

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
Israel made anti-semitism and Islamism completely unnecessary to breed terrorists in Gaza. Imagine a child right now going through all of this, some loved ones died, others maimed. Imagine this child, 5 years from now, being granted the opportunity for revenge.
I get your point. But I think the context I mentioned has to be considered: Young Gazan children have been brought up to hate Jews long before this war started :(
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
I get your point. But I think the context I mentioned has to be considered: Young Gazan children have been brought up to hate Jews long before this war started :(

It would have been possible to revert that, at least in part, if they had shown kindness, but now that they have shown the opposite the chance is lost. Ought to wait until the next generation now...
 

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
It would have been possible to revert that, at least in part, if they had shown kindness, but now that they have shown the opposite the chance is lost. Ought to wait until the next generation now...
I don't think Islamists think the way you and I do. And I think you're projecting how you'd react in this situation. Their basic values are NOT your basic values.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
You might be correct about that, but my understanding is that kids in Gaza were subjected to violent anti-semitism teaching long before 10/7. I think the only answer is for Muslims to decide that Islamism and terrorism need to stop - around the world, not just around Israel. Because we know that Muslims are the most frequent victims of Islamism and terrorism.
Hatred flows both ways.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
You might be correct about that, but my understanding is that kids in Gaza were subjected to violent anti-semitism teaching long before 10/7. I think the only answer is for Muslims to decide that Islamism and terrorism need to stop - around the world, not just around Israel. Because we know that Muslims are the most frequent victims of Islamism and terrorism.
That's absolutely flawless.
But I guess the focus here is: are those lives valuable?
Yes, they are. Indeed,...I am so saddened by the death of many Gazans, no matter how radicalized they were.

At the same time, I am saddened by the death of thousands of Ukraine who die in a stupid war, due to the fact that the two belligerent parties don't find a compromise and don't make peace.
So these Ukrainians are the victims of mercilessness and intransigence. They are not volunteers. They are FORCED TO FIGHT BY THE GOVERNMENT.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Every single day I get updates how many people have died in Gaza or Lebanon. Every day. Many articles in my feed.

I don't think I've ever gotten an article in my feed telling me of casualties in Ukraine. Certainly not multiple articles every day.

I know why *I* think there is this double standard, but I'm curious why you all think so.
Reporting on the Zionist state's crimes against humanity isn't "anti-semitism". If a bunch of news about Gaza and Lebanon is popping up in your feed, it's because you searched for it or are following sources that cover it a lot. So that's really on you, from how it sounds. I don't know where you get your news, but I still see mentions of Ukraine in the news, such as the evening world news.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
Every single day I get updates how many people have died in Gaza or Lebanon. Every day. Many articles in my feed.

I don't think I've ever gotten an article in my feed telling me of casualties in Ukraine. Certainly not multiple articles every day.

I know why *I* think there is this double standard, but I'm curious why you all think so.
What feed are you talking about?

Digital newsfeeds are typically composed by algorithms based on your online history. It "guesses" your interests and pushes stories accordingly.
Spend a week or two actively looking up data, articles, video's about ukraine and chances are rather huge that articles about that conflict will find their way to your newsfeeds also.

But as I asked, and simply out of interest, what newsfeed are you talking about? What platform?
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
Because Europeans are manure, according to the Democratic Party.

:)
They are inferior...being white and Christian.

And they even wonder why they lost the elections.
You're acting out and engaging in rather ridiculous conspiracy.
"the democratic party" doesn't compose digital newsfeeds of facebook or whatever other digital platform. Algorithms do, based on online activity of the user in question.

It's the same reason why you are served with russian and right wing propaganda 24/7 most likely and are kept in that right wing fake news bubble by whatever digital medium you consume.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
Every single day I get updates how many people have died in Gaza or Lebanon. Every day. Many articles in my feed.

I don't think I've ever gotten an article in my feed telling me of casualties in Ukraine. Certainly not multiple articles every day.

I know why *I* think there is this double standard, but I'm curious why you all think so.
I get updates on the European invasion by Russia.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
You're acting out and engaging in rather ridiculous conspiracy.
"the democratic party" doesn't compose digital newsfeeds of facebook or whatever other digital platform. Algorithms do, based on online activity of the user in question.

It's the same reason why you are served with russian and right wing propaganda 24/7 most likely and are kept in that right wing fake news bubble by whatever digital medium you consume.
Listen. This is not a game. Or entertainment.
This is serious.
A nuclear war can undo Europe...so I prefer to think with my own mind, rather than believing stuff written by biased journalists. From both sides.
Sapere aude, said Kant. Have the courage to use your own intelligence, and don't let any "expert" dupe you.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
Listen. This is not a game. Or entertainment.
This is serious.
A nuclear war can undo Europe...so I prefer to think with my own mind, rather than believing stuff written by biased journalists. From both sides.
Sapere aude, said Kant. Have the courage to use your own intelligence, and don't let any "expert" dupe you.
Another reply completely irrelevant to the post you are responding to.

Are you capable of staying on point?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Israel made anti-semitism and Islamism completely unnecessary to breed terrorists in Gaza. Imagine a child right now going through all of this, some loved ones died, others maimed. Imagine this child, 5 years from now, being granted the opportunity for revenge.
Israel doesn't appear to think ahead about
consequences of acts today. Its deadly
vengeance won't breed allies.
 
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