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Why the double standard?

IndigoChild5559

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Altfish said:
The Guardian, BBC, The Independent, various feeds on BlueSky
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You didn't answer my very specific question which was "I do thank you for your response, but I need you to be more specific. Are these reports made for each new attack? Do you get them every day?"

Since answering would only have required a couple "yes" or "no's" my assumption is that you didn't want to answer because it would ruin your point, and affirm mine.
 
Altfish

Altfish

Veteran Member
IndigoChild5559 said:
You didn't answer my very specific question which was "I do thank you for your response, but I need you to be more specific. Are these reports made for each new attack? Do you get them every day?"

Since answering would only have required a couple "yes" or "no's" my assumption is that you didn't want to answer because it would ruin your point, and affirm mine.
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Look, I do not seek them out, I do not log them down, I notice them and sadly through my war weary eyes move on.
 
TagliatelliMonster

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
IndigoChild5559 said:
I use Google news.
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Right. There's no double standard. It's just Google algorithms.

IndigoChild5559 said:
And while I appreciate your point about their algorithm, I assure you that Ukraine is a huge interest of mine. I click on almost every link. So even with the effects of the algorithm, if the medea WERE actually covering how many deaths occurred in the Ukraine with each new bombing, such reports WOULD end up on my screen.
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Google's algorithm doesn't seem to think so.

Here's what it says when I connect to google news with "in private" browsing (with in private browsing google will ask you for permission to serve personalized content every time)

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This, off course, doesn't cover the full story, but it does give you a general idea.

In case of non-personalised contents, it will actually still serve you content related to what you are "currently" viewing (ie: browsing history of the "current session", other open tabs, youtube, what-have-you) as well as based on your geographic location as well as trends related to your location. So if in your town people are obsessed with Israel, the algorithm will favor news from Israel. If in the US, still Google will favor Israel since America tends to be more concerned with Israel then Ukraine.

In case of personalised content, the above will still apply, but additionally to that it will be mixed with your personal interests based on the user profile they have on you (your history, searches, video watches, clicks, your "likes", etc).

There is no double standard or grand conspiracy to "hide" news from Ukraine. It's just google's algorithm deciding for you what it thinks will trigger your interest.
Mind you that these AI's are extremely complex. It also makes connections that you might not even think off which might trigger it to serve you with Israel news even without you showing prior interest in Israel explicitly, but rather just through association.


This is why I generally dislike such composed "feeds". It keeps us in a bubble and it is decided for us what our "interests" are. I much rather prefer checking out quality news outlets that simply report on global news without deciding for me what will interest me or not.


As for the reporting itself (which indeed is another story of what is feeded to you because it obviously can't feed what doesn't exist)... There's a belgian news outlet (dutch though) that I frequent which pretty much has a permanent type of "live blog" type thing which has non-stop reporting on what is happening in Ukraine. It frequently features bombings from both sides detailing the amount of rockets / drones launched, how many got taken down, how many hit where and what the casualties are.
Off course, for the actual front lines this is harder. Ukraine is primarily a ground war of a different nature then what is happening in Gaza and Lebanon. It's much harder there to get "exact" numbers of the pretty much constant fighting with firearms, artillery etc.
 
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Kathryn

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
9-10ths_Penguin said:
As an American taxpayer, you're helping to fund the killing of Palestinians and Lebanese people. You aren't funding the killing of Ukrainians.
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Oh yes we are. Why do you think there is such a stink right now about US supplied rockets being shot into Russia? I believe that thousands and thousands of Ukrainians have already died in this particular war.

The famous (though some would say infamous) "bipartisan bill" that Trump stymied had about three times as much (maybe more) going to Ukraine than Israel.
 
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9-10ths_Penguin

9-10ths_Penguin

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Kathryn said:
Oh yes we are. Why do you think there is such a stink right now about US supplied rockets being shot into Russia? I believe that thousands and thousands of Ukrainians have already died in this particular war.

The famous (though some would say infamous) "bipartisan bill" that Trump stymied had about three times as much (maybe more) going to Ukraine than Israel.
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Do you understand the difference between Russia and Ukraine? Your post suggests you don't.
 
Yerda

Yerda

Veteran Member
Kathryn said:
Oh yes we are. Why do you think there is such a stink right now about US supplied rockets being shot into Russia? I believe that thousands and thousands of Ukrainians have already died in this particular war.

The famous (though some would say infamous) "bipartisan bill" that Trump stymied had about three times as much (maybe more) going to Ukraine than Israel.
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If Russia was invading America and annexing Texas right now are you telling me you'd be calling for your military to surrender?
 
Kathryn

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Yerda said:
If Russia was invading America and annexing Texas right now are you telling me you'd be calling for your military to surrender?
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I don't know what I'd do since Russia has no history here. In Ukraine, at least 30 and some say 40 percent of Ukrainians speak Russian. at home and casually. In fact, Zelenskyy is having to learn Ukrainian because he only spoke Russian previously.
 
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