Demonslayer
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When it comes to the unbelievers, God punish them for insisting to deny what they are sure in their inner-selves to be true..
That Tom Brady is innocent?
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When it comes to the unbelievers, God punish them for insisting to deny what they are sure in their inner-selves to be true..
Just my opinion but it must be easier to deny a deity that to investigate if there
is one (or are any).
Kind of lazy thinking in my world view.
An atheist need not believe, pray, consider, human existence.
Why, I would ask, though out human history has mankind felt a need
to worship something greater than man?
Innate perhaps? Why do humans need to make meaning??????????????
See:
www.philosophytalk.org/shows/worship
Worship is the feeling or expression of reverence and adoration for something. The attitude of worship towards God or ... make human life ... of worship needs to ...
Not just the Abrahamic faith's, but ALL revealed religions are flawed, because all revelations is either non-transmittable as anything other than hearsay, or (more likely), it's all manufactured in the first place, with hell being the invention of sadists.
God, if It exists, isn't fatally flawed. It created the universe specifically to spawn self-aware creatures with free will. That some of us use that free will to do evil, is the choice of those that do so, not God's choice. They flunk the test, at least if they don't repent and change their attitude. If you want to know God, look to the one which wasn't invented by men with all the accompanying revelations.
Doesn't all the pointless suffering in the world clearly point to a "evil" or apathetic god if one exists?
Blame those apple eating naked people, they should have known better than to trust a talking snake.
Who has never had a fair opportunity to know God?
Rom 1:18-20 (ESVST) 18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. 19 For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. 20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.
Which God? Your version of God? No, I do not. But the version of God I believe in, yes.I see now, you don't even believe in God.
Again, It would depend on which version of God one believes in and whether or not that version is the correct one. For one, the Christian version is simply too punitive to be believable.Disagreeing with God's morals doesn't make God cease to exist or cease to be the judge that will hold all to account. And thinking His judgements hateful or foolish does not make them so.
How do you know that God is a "him"? Do you realize most of your ideals for hell and Satan and all this is from Milton and Dante? If God is the God of your Bible and I am to be confined to this hell for believing in a Buddhist notion of God, then God has no meaning whatsoever in any faith. God is not about punishment in my view. God is about lessons that we must learn and no longer make those mistakes. It is about enlightenment, not this good V bad thing where one mistake lands one in this hell based on two books of fiction.The wrongdoing against God deserves that particular punishment, that is simply the objective reason. One explanation is that as God is infinitely worthy, to rebel against Him deserves infinite punishment. That isn't confirmed or denied in the Scriptures however, but that's one possible explanation. What matter is that this is the punishment that is deserved.
Start another thread about your personal opinion about Christianity. Some of us want to hear it!
not to protest....I don'tActually, I believe that is a parable about Sheol, - where both good and bad go to await the Messiah, and final judgment.
In The Bosom of Abraham, - refers to reclining at ease at the head table, they are at peace, as they were righteous.
The rich man represents those that fell short, - and sleep restless - out of fear, - and anger at themselves, - for not changing their ways before it was too late. They burn with desire for what they now can't have.
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How do you clearly perceive something that is invisible?
First we have to define the bible's four terms that are translated "hell". Two of them simply mean the "grave" (sheol--OT, hades--NT). One is a fiery garbage pit outside Jerusalem (gehenna). The final one (tartaroo a.k.a--abyss/deep) is a spiritual prison where satan and his demons are on "work release" (Luk 8:27-31) awaiting their judgment (2 Pe 2:4).
How do you clearly perceive the wind?
The god of the bible seems to be limited in his options
as to how to deal with the world's perceived problems.
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Tartaroo is considered the deepest depths of Sheol.
2Pe 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to Tararoo (the deepest abyss of Hades/SHEOL), and delivered them into binding darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
Remember the Bosom of Abraham story? The righteous recline in peace at the elevated owners table, and the wicked one is below, burning with desire for even a drop of what they have..
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What is ' limited in His options ' about Daniel 2:44
What is ' limited in His options ' about Isaiah 11:3-4
What is ' limited in His options ' about Revelation 19:11; Revelation 19:14-16
Always about some imaginary future event, - to keep people trudging along, hoping.
Thousands of years, - same some-time-in-the-future message.
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The Bible's Tartarus (tartaro'o) is Not the grave. Jesus appeared to the demons 'after' God resurrected Jesus out of biblical hell (sheol/grave) - 1 Peter 3:18-20