Why the trinity is false

[1213]

there is the father, the begotten/created, and the spirit.

blasphemy against those two can be forgiven because they are not totally about self, but blasphemy against the spirit is self-condemnation.

How it is self-condemnation?

 

[Fool]

How it is self-condemnation?

1 Corinthians 3:16

 

[Kenny]

God is not a man, so he does not lie. He is not human, so he does not change his mind. Has he ever spoken and failed to act? Has he ever promised and not carried it through? Numbers 23:19

I believe this verse prove the trinity is wrong.

Jesus was also a Jew. He prayed to God the father, Jahve. He believed in strong monotheism

What do you think?

The comparison is the difference between God and mankind. The Word never lied but He did come manifested as a man.

 

[Muffled]

God is not a man, so he does not lie. He is not human, so he does not change his mind. Has he ever spoken and failed to act? Has he ever promised and not carried it through? Numbers 23:19

I believe this verse prove the trinity is wrong.

Jesus was also a Jew. He prayed to God the father, Jahve. He believed in strong monotheism

What do you think?

I believe it does not. God is not a man but He is in a man and much more than that.

 

[Muffled]

Don't you believe in the Goddess? The Holy Spirit is essentially the female aspect of God although most Christians have not recognized that yet.

Some Christians do acknowledge it: THE HOLY SPIRIT IS FEMALE! | Saint Cecilia Catholic Community

I believe the Holy Spirit inhabits whatever gender He pleases.

 

[Muffled]

god is definitely a triad of sorts

god is a creator, the created, and the creating

or mind, body, spirit complex.

I do not believe that is so.

 

[exchemist]

God is not a man, so he does not lie. He is not human, so he does not change his mind. Has he ever spoken and failed to act? Has he ever promised and not carried it through? Numbers 23:19

I believe this verse prove the trinity is wrong.

Jesus was also a Jew. He prayed to God the father, Jahve. He believed in strong monotheism

What do you think?

There is lot of new theology arising from the New Testament, which is not in the Old Testament. If it were otherwise, Christians would all still be Jews. According to St John's Gospel the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us. So God did indeed become Man.

 

[Fool]

I do not believe that is so.

a dualist is full of negative/positive beliefs.

 

[Fool]

The comparison is the difference between God and mankind. The Word never lied but He did come manifested as a man.

god manifests as everything and not this vs that.

the dualist ignores that god is being without definition

isaiah 66:1-2

 

[walt]

I think it is good when we consider Jesus advice when we can.. Does anyone agree?
Jn. 8:31, 32; Jn. 5:24; Jn. 18:37

 

[exchemist]

I think it is good when we consider Jesus advice when we can.. Does anyone agree?
Jn. 8:31, 32; Jn. 5:24; Jn. 18:37

Must admit I don't see what light those verses shed on the thread topic. Perhaps you can explain?

 

[walt]

Must admit I don't see what light those verses shed on the thread topic. Perhaps you can explain?

Jesus says "remain in my word" "whoever hears my word" "Everyone who is on the side of the truth listens to my voice" I think these three scriptures express the importance of considering Jesus words whenever we can.. the subject is talking about the Trinity I think it is Relevant to consider what Jesus actually Said and Didn't say..

 

[Kenny]

I think it is good when we consider Jesus advice when we can.. Does anyone agree?
Jn. 8:31, 32; Jn. 5:24; Jn. 18:37

You have an “AMEN” corner here.

 

[exchemist]

Jesus says "remain in my word" "whoever hears my word" "Everyone who is on the side of the truth listens to my voice" I think these three scriptures express the importance of considering Jesus words whenever we can.. the subject is talking about the Trinity I think it is Relevant to consider what Jesus actually Said and Didn't say..

This does not seem to have much to do with the Trinity.

 

[walt]

This does not seem to have much to do with the Trinity.

That's the point, Jesus never talked about the word Trinity or any words that define it.. He never talked about three people that are equal to each other being one God.. So everyone has a choice they can believe in the Trinity which Jesus never talked about or they can find out what Jesus wants us to believe, simply by just reading his words.

 

[exchemist]

That's the point, Jesus never talked about the word Trinity or any words that define it.. He never talked about three people that are equal to each other being one God.. So everyone has a choice they can believe in the Trinity which Jesus never talked about or they can find out what Jesus wants us to believe, simply by just reading his words.

Yes, we can do that. But, if we have any brains, we will find ourselves then asking further questions as to what he meant. We also have to keep in mind that we don’t know exactly what he said. We rely on four somewhat different accounts that Christians have chosen to trust. So we have to amalgamate them in some way. And then of course we have other commentary, from people like St. Paul, to consider as well.

The doctrine of the Trinity arose from the people appointed by the Apostles in the early church thinking about what the words of Jesus, as reported in the gospels, implied or seemed to imply.

 

[walt]

Yes, we can do that. But, if we have any brains, we will find ourselves then asking further questions as to what he meant. We also have to keep in mind that we don’t know exactly what he said. We rely on four somewhat different accounts that Christians have chosen to trust. So we have to amalgamate them in some way. And then of course we have other commentary, from people like St. Paul, to consider as well.

The doctrine of the Trinity arose from the people appointed by the Apostles in the early church thinking about what the words of Jesus, as reported in the gospels, implied or seemed to imply.

I agree with you there are many points to consider.. I will look at each one and find an answer i think satisfies each one but I will look for the answer from Jesus and the apostles not from something I believe to be true.. I think my opinion or the opinion of those that came after the Bible was written is not important!

 

[walt]

I agree with you there are many points to consider.. I will look at each one and find an answer i think satisfies each one but I will look for the answer from Jesus and the apostles not from something I believe to be true.. I think my opinion or the opinion of those that came after the Bible was written is not important!

please accept my apologies If my words are not appropriate I will try to write things down in a respectful and accurate way. Thx.

 

[Bthoth]

God is not a man, so he does not lie. He is not human, so he does not change his mind. Has he ever spoken and failed to act? Has he ever promised and not carried it through? Numbers 23:19

And the writings are by man, not any god. So errors and misleading opinions can and do exist.

I believe this verse prove the trinity is wrong.

What if the trinity of god is misunderstood?

Jesus was also a Jew. He prayed to God the father, Jahve. He believed in strong monotheism

Sure, keeping the commandments can be maintained by any soul no matter the denomination.

What do you think?

Nothing in this opening gives a why, just an opinion.

 

[1213]

1 Corinthians 3:16

That says: "Do you not know that you are a sanctuary of God, and the Spirit of God dwells in you?".

I don't think it means self-condemnation. But, obviously, blasphemy against the spirit can be seen as self-condemnation, because by doing that, it can be seen that one condemns himself.