Why they are fake?

[sojourner]

Indeed God may choose whatever he wishes. However, God + Bleed = no God. God + Eat = No God. God + Die = No God

According. To. You.

 

[Riverwolf]

Wow the word naturally comes so easy. Again, square one, where did this "natural property" come from.

If it came from anywhere rather than just having always been there, we don't know.

Is there a problem with that answer?

Moreover, my electron example, highlights the fact that the laws which electrons follow are so accurate and predictable that we can actually employ these laws to make amazing things. The completeness of the design was my hint, the one which you did not take.

Perhaps I did not take it because I find such a conception rather silly, and so it had not occurred to me. I see no indication whatsoever that our ability to harness things in the natural world for our own usage is indicative of these things having been designed.

 

[Kade]

Nature a very crude very disgusting process usually involves the exploitation of one species over another some victims of nature can be eaten alive for the victim nature usually ends it with what could be considered a bad day, afraid once you go past the eye candy of nature the vast majority of it is gruesome.

I didn't mean what do you think of nature... I meant how did nature itself come to be?

 

[Kade]

According. To. You.

No according to the concept of divinity.

 

[Kade]

If it came from anywhere rather than just having always been there, we don't know.

Is there a problem with that answer?


The word always removes the concept of time which gives us a problem.

 

[Kade]

To invoke an authority which no average person can question nor confirm. Rejection of the claim uses fear to invoke punishment for disobeying a deity or pantheon of deities. Sumeria had a King-Priest system as the head of state. So the ruler could not only invoke their earthly authority but that of the divine. Think about how many religions you do not believe in that have used the same claims of the Quran as speaking for or as direct instructions from their deities. You just do not apply the same standard to your own religion either since you have never been taught to critically evaluate claims such as this or are unwilling to do so.

Wrong, we are taught to use our brains in everything. Some religions might teach that our own intelligence is useless, and we should simply follow blindly. However, this is not the case with Islam, we are meant to think and analyze, and if questions arise, answers are in order.

 

[Looncall]

Wrong, we are taught to use our brains in everything. Some religions might teach that our own intelligence is useless, and we should simply follow blindly. However, this is not the case with Islam, we are meant to think and analyze, and if questions arise, answers are in order.

Where do you seek answers? As far as I can see, you look to scripture or clerics, instead of thinking for yourselves.

 

[sojourner]

No according to the concept of divinity.

Your concept of divinity. Others have different concepts. But I suppose you're primed to simply brush them off as "wrong," because theirs disagrees with yours.

 

[Riverwolf]

@Kade Yes?

 

[Shad]

Wrong, we are taught to use our brains in everything. Some religions might teach that our own intelligence is useless, and we should simply follow blindly. However, this is not the case with Islam, we are meant to think and analyze, and if questions arise, answers are in order.

Then you accept the the Exodus never happened and the words within the Quran about this event and Moses are fictional, correct? Lets see if you practice what you preach

 

[Hachan]

People who call themselves Muslims would be much closer to being Muslims and understanding the Deen if they studied the Bible and the Church Fathers First (excluding John of Damascus of Course). It is such a shame that people of such ignorance make such public spectacles of themselves. To give a kinder analogy, they are just like toddlers in a hurry to run outside to the garden in the morning without washing and get dressed first. And they kick up such a tantrum when you try to get them to wash and put on their clothes first lol. Kids