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Why UFO sighting in mostly reported in the West?

Alex_G

Enlightner of the Senses
Peace be on you. Why UFO sighting in mostly reported in the Western side of world? What do u think?

Should that be an accurate statement, many potential reasons could be responsible..

1. More technological events that have the potential to be confused as UFO's occur in the west/more developed countries. Planes and other aircraft, odd lighting, flares, test explosions, weather balloons etc
2. More are effectively reported/publicized
3. More time on the hands of people, i.e. hobbyists.
4. People in less developed countries are more preoccupied with more pressing concerns/challenges.
5. Less developed countries will be less familiar with 'UFO's' as a thing to begin with.
6. Well established cultures of conspiracy power the alleged sightings, as it does power things like Bigfoot and various Government conspiracies for example. Almost a tradition.
6. The relatively close proximity of less educated people to areas of high technological development, exemplified in the USA especially.
7. More access to narcotic use, and thus narcotic related experiences?
8. More prevalent mental health problems in developed countries, namely psychotic disorders like paranoid schizophrenia
9. Oppertunists and exploiters - Crop circles hoaxes, motives to use such rumours for personal gain/publicity etc

Some that come to my mind
 

Alex_G

Enlightner of the Senses
10. and of course we've got things like this happening :D : EDIT (not actually a 'UFO' but similar in spirit :p )

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Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
I think the idea of aliens is just more prevalent in the West, and so we tend to report more often things in the sky we can't immediately (rhyming not intended) identify.
 

McBell

Unbound
One indication, although not related to actual reporting, is how in our culture the figure people here often claim to see during a period of sleep paralysis are aliens, which typically follow an abduction story. This is however significant in that it lets us know that those in our culture, rather than seeing demons, old ladies, or whatever, people here are seeing aliens which means we are thinking about them more which means we our brains are primed to insert aliens into our thought processes. So because people here are more likely to see aliens, then it wouldn't surprise me if we do have an above average number of reported UFO's.
I am not saying that the US does not have more, I merely do not know that it is true.
Given all the reports from Israel and the old USSR...

I would be interested in seeing if someone has actually taken the time and counted them up based on country for say the year 2012.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
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Don't you ever watch Star Trek or Futurama?
Aliens overwhelmingly speak English.
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Are you overlooking translating microbes ala Farscape? Maybe the aliens are speaking North Andromedean and we have brain bugs that are feeding us the English translation.
 

apophenia

Well-Known Member
A lot of what is seen is likely to be military. I've seen some phenomena which clearly weren't conventional aircraft, satellites or weather balloons when I've been camping in the mountains. But there is an airforce base not too far away. It's no secret that 'secret' developments are not made public. Any military technology you see flying now was experimental and secret at some stage. Probably about 30 years ago. It seems highly probable that extraordinary advances have been made in the last ten years. And it is certain that you haven't seen them officially, unless you are involved in R&D. But they have to fly the new stuff somewhere ... and test it's capabilities in a variety of ways, which may often involve overflying populated areas.

Maybe more UFOs are seen in the west (if that's true) because the west does more research and development of extreme flying machines and the testing is done in their airspace..
 
Oddly, I don't recall the last time there was a so-called "UFO" sighting. It's not like it is a daily, weekly, or monthly occurrence.
Most sightings are not reported, and you’ll see very few people willing to appear on evening news to relate their sightings to viewers. Unfortunately, the “spin and dirty trick,” a method employed by governments and media to ridicule the UFO phenomenon and UFO sightings, has been successful and people are unwilling to share their sighting experiences with others, especially in public. You can see this demonstrated even in this thread with most people joking about the phenomenon, the greatest event in human history that can potentially end the human civilization as we know it.


We have more free time on our hands.
Yes, people do have more free time in wealthier nations. However, in the last few years, you can see more people focused on texting and speaking on cellphones on the street during their free time than observing their surroundings.


I think the idea of aliens is just more prevalent in the West, and so we tend to report more often things in the sky we can't immediately (rhyming not intended) identify.
Actually, there are many reporting and sightings globally now. It is not accurate to say that there are more UFO sightings or more reporting in the West.


A lot of what is seen is likely to be military. I've seen some phenomena which clearly weren't conventional aircraft, satellites or weather balloons when I've been camping in the mountains. But there is an airforce base not too far away. It's no secret that 'secret' developments are not made public. Any military technology you see flying now was experimental and secret at some stage. Probably about 30 years ago. It seems highly probable that extraordinary advances have been made in the last ten years. And it is certain that you haven't seen them officially, unless you are involved in R&D. But they have to fly the new stuff somewhere ... and test it's capabilities in a variety of ways, which may often involve overflying populated areas. Maybe more UFOs are seen in the west (if that's true) because the west does more research and development of extreme flying machines and the testing is done in their airspace..
Air force officers around the world have sighted extraterrestrial spaceships (not merely flying objects that are not identified) within a few yards away, particularly near nuclear storage areas. These officers who were forced to sign non-disclosure agreement came forward to disclose their sightings after their retirement when their agreement was no longer in effect. Do you think air force officers, of all people, would come forward to speak of sighting extraterrestrial spaceships if these were man-made vehicles? For what purpose? To make joke of themselves?


One indication, although not related to actual reporting, is how in our culture the figure people here often claim to see during a period of sleep paralysis are aliens, which typically follow an abduction story. This is however significant in that it lets us know that those in our culture, rather than seeing demons, old ladies, or whatever, people here are seeing aliens which means we are thinking about them more which means we our brains are primed to insert aliens into our thought processes. So because people here are more likely to see aliens, then it wouldn't surprise me if we do have an above average number of reported UFO's.
Do you find it strange that “disorders” such as “sleep paralysis” have somehow sprung up recently with the increase of abduction incidences? How about the implants made of extraterrestrial substances that these abductees suddenly “grow” in their bodies after experiencing incidences of “sleep paralysis” accompanied by “abduction stories”?


Dr. Roger Leir is a physician who has been removing alien implants from abductees’ bodies. He sent the implants he extracted from abductees’ bodies to independent laboratories for analysis, without informing them from where or how he obtained them. The results of the analyses at the labs confirmed that the implants are of extraterrestrial nature:

Most of the metallurgy indicates that the structure of these objects has an extraterrestrial origin. If this is indeed the case, we will be able to conclude that some individuals with alien abduction histories have objects in their bodies of extraterrestrial origin. The composition of the objects includes metals whose isotopic ratios are clearly extraterrestrial. Moreover, the form of the objects is clearly engineered and manufactured with precision rather than being a naturally occurring form. In short, we now have the “smoking gun” of ufology: hard physical evidence of an alien presence on Earth!
The above is a quote from Leir's book "The Aliens and the Scalpel," pg. 161.


It plays a larger aspect in our cultural consciousness. Plus, the aliens have already taken over the Govt with hybrids.
Human-alien hybrids are genetically manufactured for certain purposes. Physically they will not be distinguishable from other human beings and they are able to function in this world unlike extraterrestrial beings, but their minds will be in alignment with the Extraterrestrial Intervention and they will lack certain qualities treasured by humanity such as compassion, creativity, love for humanity,...


Today there are many people who are being taken against their will repeatedly. Because humanity is very superstitious and seeks to deny things that it cannot understand, this unfortunate activity is being carried on with considerable success. Even now, there are hybrid individuals, part-human, part-alien, walking in your world. There are not many of them, but their numbers will grow in the future. Perhaps you will meet one someday. They will look the same as you but be different. You will think they are human beings, but something essential will seem to be missing in them, something that is valued within your world. It is possible to be able to discern and to identify these individuals, but in order to do so, you would have to become skilled in the Mental Environment and learn what Knowledge and Wisdom mean in the Greater Community. (From "The Allies of Humanity" http://www.alliesofhumanity.org/allies-of-humanity-book1.pdf
The [Extraterrestrial] Intervention does not want to see humanity unite in facing the Greater Community. Therefore, human conflict will be encouraged, particularly by those hybridized individuals who have assumed positions in advising human leaders. It is their advising roles that have the most influence here. These are not individuals that you will see, for they are not public. They are hidden and well placed. (From “The Allies of Humanity – Book 3”)
 

apophenia

Well-Known Member


Air force officers around the world have sighted extraterrestrial spaceships (not merely flying objects that are not identified) within a few yards away, particularly near nuclear storage areas. These officers who were forced to sign non-disclosure agreement came forward to disclose their sightings after their retirement when their agreement was no longer in effect. Do you think air force officers, of all people, would come forward to speak of sighting extraterrestrial spaceships if these were man-made vehicles? For what purpose? To make joke of themselves?

And what was the conclusive verifiable evidence that whatever they saw was extraterrestrial ?

Airforce officers have seen craft they don't recognise and which perform beyond the specs of craft they are aware of - fact.

Airforce officers have seen 'extraterrestrial craft' - speculation.
 
And what was the conclusive verifiable evidence that whatever they saw was extraterrestrial ? Airforce officers have seen craft they don't recognise and which perform beyond the specs of craft they are aware of - fact. Airforce officers have seen 'extraterrestrial craft' - speculation.
What would be the “conclusive verifiable evidence” for you that whatever they saw was extraterrestrial?
 

apophenia

Well-Known Member
What would be the “conclusive verifiable evidence” for you that whatever they saw was extraterrestrial?

Good question. But not one I really need an answer for, because the question I put on the table is "what was the conclusive verifiable evidence that whatever they saw was extraterrestrial ?"

My guess is that the answer is none whatsoever. It is all very well replying to my question with a counter-question, but you didn't answer my question at all.

Exactly what was the evidence that convinced these airforce dudes ?

Without 'meeting the alien folks' flying them, their seems to be no basis for the claim.

But certainly, being 'certain' that an observed flying machine is extraterrestrial, based purely on fleeting visual observation, is no more than speculation.

So the onus is on you to provide some reason to believe this speculation - and not just further speculation.

If a pilot caught a sighting of the SR71 when it was first flown in 1965, the performance of that plane would have been jaw-dropping enough to invite this kind of speculation. It was capable of flying in excess of 2000 mph, and reaching altitudes of 90000 feet - about 25 kilometres.

Name me a current manned plane which can beat that. You can't. So, has all the R&D since 1965 produced no substantial improvement, or fundamental change in technology ? The fastest plane ever built was built in 1965, and we have learned nothing much since ? Curious.

This is a scramjet. The X-43A flew un-manned to a speed of Mach 7 or nearly 5,000 Miles Per Hour on March 27, 2004. I wonder what other kinds of technology is being tested right now. Do you think that there is nothing else which is kept from public view ?

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I guess if you did not know about this craft, and it went past you at 5000 miles per hour, you might think " hmmm ... those danged aliens are getting cocky". But you would be wrong.

Do you remember the crazy spiral pattern in the sky over Norway ? A lot of people thought that was some kind of ET activity (even though the videos clearly indicate that the light was being projected from the ground).

What the UFO buffs missed was that a very similar sighting happened off Australia's east coast a little later - at about the same time that the US military announced that they had successfully downed an aircraft with their new high-power laser weapon.

Occam's Razor would suggest that those crazy laser light shows and that weapons testing were related. But that was never suggested in the media, or by the UFO crowd.
 
Good question. But not one I really need an answer for, because the question I put on the table is "what was the conclusive verifiable evidence that whatever they saw was extraterrestrial ?"
I was going to write two-long paragraphs of quotes by these air force officers. However, I will let you search them by watching any of the Disclosure Conferences. I must alert you though, that some of these officers mistakenly believe that these extraterrestrial beings must be here for our good because they didn’t attack them militarily. They do not realize that outright conquest is prohibited in the region of the galaxy, in which our solar system is located.


Some of these retired air officers have sighted UFOs up close within a few yards, which were hovering silently over the nuclear weapon storages for hours at a time, pointing light beams down towards them as if to indicate that nuclear weapons are dangerous and should not be used. Such incidences occurred in 1940’s and on. They, of all people, would know what sort of aerial vehicles were possible with contemporary technology at the time. They claimed that the vehicles were navigated by intelligent beings and human technology was way behind that which enabled those UFOs to remain stationary silently for a very long time, accelerate to a great speed from a stationary position, etc.

My guess is that the answer is none whatsoever. It is all very well replying to my question with a counter-question, but you didn't answer my question at all.
You guess incorrectly. Please see my response above.


Exactly what was the evidence that convinced these airforce dudes ?
Please see my response above.


Without 'meeting the alien folks' flying them, their seems to be no basis for the claim.
Please read the book titled “Taken” by Karla Turner (available online to download for free here: http://www.viewzone.com/ebooks/KarlaTurnerTaken.pdf). You might also like to try the book titled “The Aliens and the Scalpel” by Roger Leir. The first book is a collection of abductees’ testimonies and the second book is a detailed scientific account of surgeries done on abductees’ to remove extraterrestrial implants.


But certainly, being 'certain' that an observed flying machine is extraterrestrial, based purely on fleeting visual observation, is no more than speculation.
Do you really think people have drawn that conclusion “based purely on fleeting visual observation”? Please see my response above regarding what air force officers observed up close and abductees’ testimonial statements.


So the onus is on you to provide some reason to believe this speculation - and not just further speculation.
No, every human being has the right and the responsibility to find out about the event for themselves, for this has the consequence on humanity that it cannot even imagine. Every human being must become alerted to this phenomenon, educated about the Extraterrestrial Intervention and life in the universe, and prepared for the future which will be unlike the past. Everyone.


If a pilot caught a sighting of the SR71 when it was first flown in 1965, the performance of that plane would have been jaw-dropping enough to invite this kind of speculation. It was capable of flying in excess of 2000 mph, and reaching altitudes of 90000 feet - about 25 kilometres.
“At 3pm BST on 8-11-2011, the U.S. Defense Advance Research Projects Agency will launch the Falcon Hypersonic Technology Vehicle 2 on the back of a rocket from the Vandenberg Air Force Base in California. If all goes to plan, engineers will launch the Falcon HTV-2 to the edge of space, before detaching the plane and guiding it on a hypersonic flight that will reach speeds of 13,000mph (about 20 times the speed of sound) on its return to Earth.” (From The Guardian)

I have sighted a UFO that achieved a superluminal speed from a completely stationary position more than four years ago. This hypersonic vehicle which was launched less than two years ago can obtain 20 times the speed of sound. The speed of light is only about 44,000 times higher than that.

Name me a current manned plane which can beat that. You can't. So, has all the R&D since 1965 produced no substantial improvement, or fundamental change in technology ? The fastest plane ever built was built in 1965, and we have learned nothing much since ? Curious. This is a scramjet. The X-43A flew un-manned to a speed of Mach 7 or nearly 5,000 Miles Per Hour on March 27, 2004. I wonder what other kinds of technology is being tested right now. Do you think that there is nothing else which is kept from public view ? I guess if you did not know about this craft, and it went past you at 5000 miles per hour, you might think " hmmm ... those danged aliens are getting cocky". But you would be wrong. What the UFO buffs missed was that a very similar sighting happened off Australia's east coast a little later - at about the same time that the US military announced that they had successfully downed an aircraft with their new high-power laser weapon.
Please see above.


Do you remember the crazy spiral pattern in the sky over Norway ? A lot of people thought that was some kind of ET activity (even though the videos clearly indicate that the light was being projected from the ground).
Please see above regarding abductees’ testimonies and extraterrestrial implants removed from such abductees.


Occam's Razor would suggest that those crazy laser light shows and that weapons testing were related. But that was never suggested in the media, or by the UFO crowd.
Nor were abductees’ testimonies or extraterrestrial implants removed from abductees ever broadcasted seriously in any media or by the UFO skeptics.

 

Falvlun

Earthbending Lemur
Premium Member
Pegg and Falvlun, any thoughts on the phenomenon besides jokes?

Not a joke. I truly believe that is why there are more UFO sightings reported in the West. That, and probably our pop-culture: Movies and the like, which make the idea fresher in our minds.

If you really think people are actually seeing alien aircraft, I do not think there is any explanation for why the aliens would predominately fly over only the "West". They would probably fly over everything, and in that case, my answer is still valid: Westerners are reporting sightings more because they have more time.
 
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