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Why UFO sighting in mostly reported in the West?

apophenia

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WyattDerp and apophenia, you guys brought up an interesting idea about bacteria. Although very few people, except for those such as apophenia, would argue that germs are preeminent forms of life on the planet, germs are, indeed, great biohazards to extraterrestrial beings that have evolved in sterile environment. Despite their advanced technology, these extraterrestrial beings cannot adapt well in this world because of germs and the fact that they cannot breathe our atmosphere.

That's exactly the kind of thing hybrids like me think about ;)

RETI, you may be one of the few people who would even consider believing some of the strange-but-true events I have lived through.

I am receiving a transmission now ... it sounds like tinnitus. But it isn't. :angel2:

BTW ... Resistance is not futile, it is V/I
 
Methylatedghosts, do you have anything to add besides jokes?

Apophenia, human-alien hybrids are genetically manufactured to look like human beings and be adapted to survive on this planet like human beings, but with minds that are in alignment with the Extraterrestrial Intervention and in total allegiance to it. If I may be one of the few people who would even consider believing the events you have lived through, please go ahead and tell me. By the way, I don’t know what V/I means.
 
In response to the original topic, I would guess it's because in some cultures the notion of being able to travel through space simply doesn't exist. In the cultures what we call UFO's might be attributed to supernatural spirits, but not aliens from other planets.
 
Runningbooii, I think in most cultures, the notion of being able to travel through space exists. In fact, it is erroneous to assume that there are more sightings in the West than other parts of the world. There have been sightings globally. What is your thought about the UFO/ET phenomenon?
 

WyattDerp

Active Member
germs are, indeed, great biohazards to extraterrestrial beings that have evolved in sterile environment

Why do you think they have evolved in a sterile environment? What makes you think that's even possible?

Despite their advanced technology, these extraterrestrial beings cannot adapt well in this world because of germs and the fact that they cannot breathe our atmosphere.

To me that simply means they bring airtight suits and their own atmosphere in cans.
 

WyattDerp

Active Member
Hey, are these guys hiring? Maybe I could give them some tips. Sometimes I think I'd prefer global catastrophy, or even alien invasion, to the stuff humanity is crystallizing into, and maybe this is my chance to, you know, follow my dreams ^^
 
WyattDerp, I have included the link to the book “The Allies of Humanity” several times in this thread. You can download it for free here: http://www.alliesofhumanity.org/allies-of-humanity-book1.pdf

You can also request a free e-book “Life in the Universe” from this link: http://www.newmessage.org/nmfg/The_New_Message_from_God.html

I know you’re just joking; at least, I hope that you are. However, one of the goals these extraterrestrials are attempting to achieve is to disintegrate human race and create conflict within it, so that humanity would lose faith in itself and its leaderships of nations. Their ultimate goal is then to induce humanity to seek leadership or assistance from an extraterrestrial race. Of course, the ET Intervention has absolutely no interest in human well-being. Its only goal is to attain human allegiance in order to use humanity to overtake the world covertly with as little resistance as possible.
 

WyattDerp

Active Member
However, one of the goals these extraterrestrials are attempting to achieve is to disintegrate human race and create conflict within it, so that humanity would lose faith in itself and its leaderships of nations. Their ultimate goal is then to induce humanity to seek leadership or assistance from an extraterrestrial race. Of course, the ET Intervention has absolutely no interest in human well-being.

We already have humans doing that. You could say there is an invasion underway since long before I was born, and I'm concerned with that one first and foremost, and view everything that wants to shift the focus to some other "actual" problem or solution with suspicion, to put it mildly. To me that causes exactly what it claims to combat, it takes focus from real things, from the banal things human are doing to humans, from the things we can change, and shifts it to the future, or even just fantasy.

But bleh to nations, and bleh to leaders. To me they're baggage from an infantile past, though I know I won't live to see the day when the average intelligence and wisdom reached levels that allow us to move beyond them. So in that sense I am part of your cause without having to believe in aliens being here, and certainly without having to read a book; if I run into them, they will either reason as equals or eat two middle fingers, just like everybody else.
 

apophenia

Well-Known Member
We already have humans doing that. You could say there is an invasion underway since long before I was born, and I'm concerned with that one first and foremost, and view everything that wants to shift the focus to some other "actual" problem or solution with suspicion, to put it mildly. To me that causes exactly what it claims to combat, it takes focus from real things, from the banal things human are doing to humans, from the things we can change, and shifts it to the future, or even just fantasy.

But bleh to nations, and bleh to leaders. To me they're baggage from an infantile past, though I know I won't live to see the day when the average intelligence and wisdom reached levels that allow us to move beyond them. So in that sense I am part of your cause without having to believe in aliens being here, and certainly without having to read a book; if I run into them, they will either reason as equals or eat two middle fingers, just like everybody else.

Totally agree.

The New World Dissociative Identity Disorder.

Watch David Attenborough for the real news.
 

apophenia

Well-Known Member
The UFO/ET phenomenon is real.

To state that you know that ETs are real is foolishness.
Let's get serious for a moment - the only basis for your belief is some stuff you've found on the web. Why do you believe it ? Because it 'resonates' with you.

Sorry RETI, but if that is NOT good enough reason to believe anything.
 
If you think that is the case, you haven’t delved into the subject enough. Do you think I’d believe this from just some “stuff” I’ve found on the web?

You’re a bit of an oddball. You can’t seem to make up your mind. You stated that the UFO phenomenon is mostly military testing aerial vehicles, then you said that you were abducted by extraterrestrials, then you said that the UFO/ET phenomenon might be real, then you call it a foolishness. What might be your agenda here?
 

apophenia

Well-Known Member
If you think that is the case, you haven’t delved into the subject enough. Do you think I’d believe this from just some “stuff” I’ve found on the web?

You’re a bit of an oddball. You can’t seem to make up your mind. You stated that the UFO phenomenon is mostly military testing aerial vehicles, then you said that you were abducted by extraterrestrials, then you said that the UFO/ET phenomenon might be real, then you call it a foolishness. What might be your agenda here?

I didn't say that I had been abducted by ETs, I said that I had 'experiences' of that kind when I was 2-3 years old.

Yes, I had the 'experience' of 'being 'taken into the sky' (to use my childhood words) repeatedly. As I said, I can no longer remember details. My mother remembers me reporting this regularly. What that actually means, I have no idea. I have been observed by others to physically disappear during meditation. Did I disappear ? Or was that just the way the observers remember the event ? I have experienced various forms of astral travel, including recording verifiable objective data. I have no firm beliefs about any of that either. Or various other experiences. Belief is simply superfluous.

You are in a rush to get a complete explanation, and this renders you gullible.

You want to believe.

What you may not realise is that most people who have reported these experiences do not have a belief either way when it comes to ETs.

Military testing of aircraft has nothing to do with ETs

What I called foolishness is believing on the basis of web pages, and however much you try to dress it up, that is what you are doing.

These misunderstandings are examples of your reading and comprehension skills - you need to learn some rigorous intellectual discipline.

Yes, I said ETs might be real. That is a long way from believing they are real on the basis of hearsay, assertion, and web pages.

You want to be on a crusade - and you want to be on a crusade that is also a 'spiritual' event. You are being sold precisely that - you are providing the demand, others are providing the supply.
 
The following is a quote from “UFO/ET Phenomenon” in this forum:
[by apophenia] For what it's worth, I had repeated 'alien abduction' experiences in 1957-1959. (I was born in 1955) I remember very little about it now. My mother reminded me of it 25 years later. It was apparently almost nightly for extended periods. ~by apophenia from “UFO/ET Phenomenon” in this forum”
The following is a quote from this thread:
[by apophenia] A lot of what is seen is likely to be military. I've seen some phenomena which clearly weren't conventional aircraft, satellites or weather balloons when I've been camping in the mountains. But there is an airforce base not too far away. It's no secret that 'secret' developments are not made public. Any military technology you see flying now was experimental and secret at some stage. Probably about 30 years ago. It seems highly probable that extraordinary advances have been made in the last ten years. And it is certain that you haven't seen them officially, unless you are involved in R&D. But they have to fly the new stuff somewhere ... and test it's capabilities in a variety of ways, which may often involve overflying populated areas. Maybe more UFOs are seen in the west (if that's true) because the west does more research and development of extreme flying machines and the testing is done in their airspace..
 

apophenia

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You’re a bit of an oddball. You can’t seem to make up your mind. You stated that the UFO phenomenon is mostly military testing aerial vehicles, then you said that you were abducted by extraterrestrials, then you said that the UFO/ET phenomenon might be real, then you call it a foolishness. What might be your agenda here?

Now you are just being silly. I reported the dream episodes of a pre-school child, and used the words 'alien abduction' in single quotes to indicate they should not be taken literally.


I said that the most likely explanation for a lot of sightings is military craft, and acknowledged the possibility that there may be real ETs - which is nowhere near endorsing the hyper-dramatic pseudo-factual drivel published by your internet guru on the web.

If you think that is the case, you haven’t delved into the subject enough. Do you think I’d believe this from just some “stuff” I’ve found on the web?

I know you believe based on "stuff you found on the internet, because you have said precisely that. It all comes from a self-proclaimed prophet setting himself up as an internet guru.

What else have you got ?
 
apophenia, you didn't mention any "dream episodes" in your statement. However, you seem confused about your experiences as a child and now in your adulthood, so we'll just leave it at that.

What is your reason for acknowledging "the possibility that there may be real ETs"?
What is your memory of experience when you "physically disappear during your meditation"?
 

apophenia

Well-Known Member
apophenia, you didn't mention any "dream episodes" in your statement. However, you seem confused about your experiences as a child and now in your adulthood, so we'll just leave it at that.

What is your reason for acknowledging "the possibility that there may be real ETs"?
What is your memory of experience when you "physically disappear during your meditation"?


You are being thick as two planks.

Note - I am clarifying my experiences when you have misunderstood, and then you are correcting me ! Duh ! :facepalm:

And now you are doing it again - READ THE POST PROPERLY.

I did not say I disappeared.

Here's what I posted -

"I have been observed by others to physically disappear during meditation. Did I disappear ? Or was that just the way the observers remember the event ?"

Not so surprising really that you actively misunderstand - that is how you are maintaining your imaginary world, and that tendency of yours, the desire to believe in something which helps you dissociate from reality, is what is exploited by such corny shams as the writer of "Aliies of Humanity".

We now have two good examples of how your confirmation bias misinterprets what I say to you.

But you will learn nothing from that. Well, not for maybe ten or twenty years anyway.

What is your reason for acknowledging "the possibility that there may be real ETs"?

Hundreds of billions of galaxies. The improbability that earth is the only planet with life in the entire universe.

And the fact that my ancestors moved here from Mars when it went through a catastrophic climate change. :D
 
The New Message from God in its entirety was received by Marshall Vian Summers from the Angelic Presence that watches over humanity's well-being and development. Except for the three sets of briefings called "The Allies of Humanity" which were received by Marshall from our allies from outer space, all the other books published and yet to be published are part of more than 9160 pages of God's Message, all of which were spoken revelations received by Marshall from the Angelic Presence on his encounter with the Angelic Presence on over 800 occasions. The Message was given to all of humanity, not just some group of people or races, at this time when humanity is faced with the Great Waves of change and covert invasion by the Extraterrestrial Intervention. It warns us of what we are faced with and provides preparation we must undertake to save our planet and ourselves. As it stands, human civilization as we know it could end, and time is of the essence now.

We all have Spiritual Intelligence within us, a deeper knowing mind, as opposed to a surface mind that thinks. The New Message from God speaks to this part of us; it speaks to our heart.
 
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