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Why Would an Omnipotent God Want Worshipers?

Bob the Unbeliever

Well-Known Member
What prevents you from creating a better humans, why we can't fix it if such things was
stupidly done by nature, and such stupid nature produced the amazing human's brain,
so use it to make better creations than what the inanimate nature did.

Nothing prevents us from bettering ourselves-- indeed, we are.

There are new procedures, even now, where prospective parents can look at a selection of potential babies, and eliminate any that show dangerous or deadly DNA traits.

This has the effect of eliminating those traits-- if enough parents do this.

That's one.

There are others; vaccines, preventative medicines, better eating habits, etc.

NONE OF THESE ARE LISTED IN ANY OF THE SO-CALLED "HOLEY" BOOKS.

Why? Hmmmmmm.....
 

Bob the Unbeliever

Well-Known Member
  • Who said thousands of pages? Just one thing they present as evidence will prove me wrong. Why are you so afraid?

To prove you wrong? We have to start at the First Grade Biology-- because your ignorance of the subject is that extreme.

Several thousand pages later, we will have advanced to 8th grade-- and the definitive FACT OF EVOLUTION becomes very clear.

But you are DEATHLY AFRAID to click a simple LINK.

Why?


Proof of evolution: TalkOrigins Archive: Exploring the Creation/Evolution Controversy
Proof of evolution: Evolution
Proof of evolution: 101 Reasons Why Evolution is True | ideonexus.com
Proof of evolution: http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence
Proof of evolution: http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/search/topicbrowse2.php?topic_id=46
Proof of evolution: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence_of_common_descent
Proof of evolution: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/03/0308_060308_evolution.html
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/home.php
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evo_01
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/lines_01
 

omega2xx

Well-Known Member
To prove you wrong? We have to start at the First Grade Biology-- because your ignorance of the subject is that extreme.

Then do it.

Several thousand pages later, we will have advanced to 8th grade-- and the definitive FACT OF EVOLUTION becomes very clear.

You don't even understand 8th grade biology.


I have checked evo links for over 20 years. Not one had any scientific evidenced to support evolution.

Why are you deathly afraid to cut and paste what they present as evidence? It is such a simple request and yet you are not willing to do it and show everyone that I am wrong and you are right.

Don't feel bad, in 20 years, none of the other evos have done it either.

I think all now what I know----you would if you could but you can't. There is no evidence and if you will not do such a simple thing, you know know it also.:p
 

Hawkins

Well-Known Member
Why would such an entity even need them?

It's for the good of humans. The typical path of falling off is

stopped worshiping God -> pride grows -> sin -> dead

So demanding your worship is the way to keep you from falling off from God such that you won't go to a dead end.
 

Hawkins

Well-Known Member
To prove you wrong? We have to start at the First Grade Biology-- because your ignorance of the subject is that extreme.

Biology has almost nothing to do with evolution. Biology shows predictability while evolution doesn't. Evolution is rather a deception with biology in disguise.

On the other hand, first grade science will teach you the basic from what and to what to make science itself valid. So when evolution is concerned, please try to specify the evolution from what to what has been proved. There could be trillions of species existing on planet earth, so just try your best to name 2 of them to illustrate that how evolution from organism A to organism B is proved!

To start with,
has the evolution from bacteria to rats been proved? No

...

now your turn.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Nothing prevents us from bettering ourselves-- indeed, we are.

There are new procedures, even now, where prospective parents can look at a selection of potential babies, and eliminate any that show dangerous or deadly DNA traits.

This has the effect of eliminating those traits-- if enough parents do this.

That's one.

There are others; vaccines, preventative medicines, better eating habits, etc.

NONE OF THESE ARE LISTED IN ANY OF THE SO-CALLED "HOLEY" BOOKS.

Why? Hmmmmmm.....

I want to enlarge my penis to 10 inches as nature made it 7 inches.
Can you be wiser than the stupid nature?
 

Bob the Unbeliever

Well-Known Member
Biology has almost nothing to do with evolution. Biology shows predictability while evolution doesn't. Evolution is rather a deception with biology in disguise.

On the other hand, first grade science will teach you the basic from what and to what to make science itself valid. So when evolution is concerned, please try to specify the evolution from what to what has been proved. There could be trillions of species existing on planet earth, so just try your best to name 2 of them to illustrate that how evolution from organism A to organism B is proved!

To start with,
has the evolution from bacteria to rats been proved? No

...

now your turn.


I cannot re-educate someone who is willfully and deliberately ignorant-- as you are, above. But I can provide links to help you get started-- if you care (which I doubt)


Lines of evidence: The science of evolution
http://io9.gizmodo.com/8-scientific-discoveries-that-prove-evolution-is-real-1729902558
Human Evolution Evidence | The Smithsonian Institution's Human Origins Program
15 Answers to Creationist Nonsense
 

Bob the Unbeliever

Well-Known Member
I want to enlarge my penis to 10 inches as nature made it 7 inches.
Can you be wiser than the stupid nature?

Well--- you only have enough blood for a 7-incher, so if you did? You'd always be even more light-headed than before...

There isn't enough blood for both heads at the same time with your current size-- likely you'd just pass out.

Which, not ironically, is 100% proof that there was nothing designing the thing from the beginning...
 

Kelly of the Phoenix

Well-Known Member
I want to enlarge my penis to 10 inches as nature made it 7 inches.
Can you be wiser than the stupid nature?
If nature gave you a hole in your heart, are you unwise to get it fixed?

If nature gave you vision problems, are you unwise to get it fixed?

If your urethra can't pass urine like it's supposed to, are you unwise to get it fixed?

Sometimes nature screws up.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
If nature gave you a hole in your heart, are you unwise to get it fixed?

If nature gave you vision problems, are you unwise to get it fixed?

If your urethra can't pass urine like it's supposed to, are you unwise to get it fixed?

Sometimes nature screws up.

Yes of course, nature don't posses a mind and naturally it should always
screw up, but humans can use their minds to fix it up.
 

janeebananee

Love is never wrong. But it IS a choice.
Why did God create Creation, and us, in His image, inhabitants thereof?
That, as stated, has never made sense to me.
 

Bob the Unbeliever

Well-Known Member
Is it bad if the humans struggle to acquire attributes of God in their character?
Regards

Bad? No---for certain qualities of 'god'.

For other qualities? Not so much.

For example, in the OT, we see the bible's god is unhappy (and indeed quite angry) with his creation-- one he presumably designed himself, created himself, and had complete creative control over-- but nevertheless, he was right upset about it.

So he murders the whole world: not unlike an artist burning the entire painting, because in one of the hundreds of painted faces, the nose wasn't quite ... right. Let's not just fix what is wrong, but let's wipe out all the plants and animals too....

So the "lesson" here? Is if things don't go your way? Kill everything and start over....?

That's an attribute I would rather that humans fail to master: we've had 2 mass wars already. That's two too many... (nevermind the countless "smaller" ones that are ongoing still...)
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Bad? No---for certain qualities of 'god'.

For other qualities? Not so much.

For example, in the OT, we see the bible's god is unhappy (and indeed quite angry) with his creation-- one he presumably designed himself, created himself, and had complete creative control over-- but nevertheless, he was right upset about it.

So he murders the whole world: not unlike an artist burning the entire painting, because in one of the hundreds of painted faces, the nose wasn't quite ... right. Let's not just fix what is wrong, but let's wipe out all the plants and animals too....

So the "lesson" here? Is if things don't go your way? Kill everything and start over....?

That's an attribute I would rather that humans fail to master: we've had 2 mass wars already. That's two too many... (nevermind the countless "smaller" ones that are ongoing still...)
The OT does not have all in it from G-d, much of it is understandings/misunderstandings of the narrators/scribes/clergy. Please
Regards
 
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