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Why Would an Omnipotent God Want Worshipers?
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so are you thanking this other self, although the kingdom of this God comes from within, or God is ominpresent in self?
sounds like that particular god isn't perfect; if he's got a problem with other gods. a house divided against itself, falls.
25 But Jesus knew their thoughts, and said to them: “Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand. 26 If Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand? 27 And if I cast out demons by Beelzebub, by whom do your sons cast them out? Therefore they shall be your judges. 28 But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, surely the kingdom of God has come upon you.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
I didn't get your point, if someone asked you to say to him thank you everyday and
he is willing to give you $ 1000 per day, will you say to him thank you?
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
Maybe god is psychologically imperfect by choice, and has decided he likes the idea of spending eternity with hordes of vapid groupies.
The question relates to what Jesus implied, that God is omnipresent in self. so then, in what direction are you sending your prayers, thanks? inward? outward?
if you believe the person is permanent; then how can it exist as a person apart from the body in an external heaven, or hell?
I understand "your" question. You differentiate god as separate from self but that isn't what Jesus taught. Jesus taught I AM in the Father and the Father is in me and I in you. That is what God's name implies when he told Moses, "I am that I am."
How then do you give to God what is already God's? God gives himself $1000.00?
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
In Islam God isn't of nature, God created nature but he doesn't belong to it..
I'm not positive, but I think I agree with you.
Milton Platt
Well-Known Member
Provide testable, falsifiable evidence for your assertion that god is real and we are off to a great start.....otherwise, you are just blowing smoke.
Perhaps it's in the word worship. Here one passages translation uses the word Serve and worship interchangeably. And since God is good, it definitely does not mean worship in any bad sense of the word.
Exodus 23:25 Worship the LORD your God, and his blessing will be on your food and water. I will take away sickness from among you,
Exodus 23:25 Worship the LORD your God, and his blessing will be on your food and water. I will take away sickness from among you,
SabahTheLoner
Master of the Art of Couch Potato Cuddles
The abstract is lost if there is no recognition in it. Something as invisible as any deity needs recognition. Followers of an omnipotent God believe in Him to recognize His presence. Whether or not that's "right" is a different matter and something that is not in my place to argue, mainly due to my lacking of an ability to recognize this entity.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
God is in heaven and aware of all things in the universe, God isn't physically everywhere.
Bob the Unbeliever
Well-Known Member
I would ask the same question.
I would also think that the Ultimate Creator would be rather insulted by the slave-like adoration of us mere mortal humans...
arthra
Baha'i
It's not in my view a question of "need"... rather it is love.
O SON OF MAN!
I loved thy creation, hence I created thee. Wherefore, do thou love Me, that I may name thy name and fill thy soul with the spirit of life.
(Baha'u'llah, The Arabic Hidden Words)
God loves us and we return that love through worship. The love that God has for us and the love we have for God is an energy that also manifests itself as the love we have for others. Jesus explained this when He quoted Deuteronomy 6:4...
The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: 12:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
12:31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
(King James Bible, Mark)
There is no testable, falsifiable evidence for the existence of God. It is a matter of faith alone.
Now you provided some testable, falsifiable evidence God does not exist or you are just blowing smoke.
There is more evidence for the existence of God, than there is that He does not exist---Everything that is not eternal, must have a source---The heavens are declaring the glory of God. Now provide your evidence for the source of matter,k energy and life. Please include how life originated from lifeless elements. Even real science says this is impossible.
It takes more faith to believe what you believe, than it does to believe what I believe.
I admit I have no evidence, will you admit you also have none? I doubt it.
interesting that a human regulates where God can be and can't; especially one they believe to be omnipotent and lives in part of it's creation and not the whole of itself.
Grandliseur
Well-Known Member
Init:
Even science has not figured our what or how our being consciousness - of our bodies, minds - works. This awareness and traits that make each person unique and something more than a machine, more than a computer - cannot be understood at this time. There are reports of something larger even where people have been known to 'feel' that a loved distant one died, or got seriously hurt.
The Bible's teaching is that God is a God of faith who rewards those who obey him in faith. Since the beginning, his worship has always been a simple question of obedience.
Supposition:
If a computer genius had created truly live entities in a virtual reality, perhaps it would be one of his life's dreams coming true to interact with these entities, do things for them on a reward basis, even punishment, depending on their interaction in the virtual society. Since these digital entities never could interact physically with their creator, the interaction would have to depend on other criteria. To be the most interesting, the interaction would be most rewarding if the creator's manipulation of things was opaque, not easily understood. It would also have to be logic based on a 'cause and effect' type system.
Conclusion:
That seems to be what we are dealing with.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
We don't regulate where God is and how he looks like, If God inside each one of us then
why there are angels recording our deeds, why not God recording our deeds?
god is recording our deeds. the angels are aspects of God. the uncreated doesn't have a fixed form. angels were formed by the uncreated creator from itself.
when you divide god against parts of itself, you create duality. God is ONE