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Why Would an Omnipotent God Want Worshipers?

Bob the Unbeliever

Well-Known Member
I'm not preaching, I'm only explaining what I believe and I don't care either for
what you want to believe, I'm not doing business for God.

The more you deny "preaching" the more you preach...... that's kinda how it works, son.

If you are not doing business for your god? I have to assume you are simply a volunteer-- and not getting paid.

That is no concern of mine either way...
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
It is possible to know God exists. It is not possible to know He doe snot.

No. It works both ways. Your belief in god is blinding you to it.

He does not know how to end suffering.

Yes, he does. Unfortunately, like he says, people are brought up in delusions. They dont know it. Sad.

You are probably right about that, My knowledge of icons is mainly how they are used in some Protestadn churches. Do Buddhist pray to the icons of Buddha?

No. Its a concentration tool. When I went to a zazen group, The Buddha statue was in the corner. We payed respect but went and sat zazen without need of the statue. Its just a brief bow of respect. Its not like catholicism where statues are used heavily to remind the believer of christ and their prayers to christ.

Is Dharma a God?

No. The Dharma is over a thousand teachings of the Buddham a lot of it mainly for monks. It guides practitioners. Its not sacred scripture. Practice is the core of buddhism. Dharma teaches practice not belief and theology

They all have a higher power, whether they call it a god or not.

No. Your belief in god blinds you to other religious worldviews.

If a Christian does believe in anothe religion, they are disobeying God. We can understand other views without accepting them.

No. Above tells me you dont understand. Nothing wrong with that. It gets tedious when i read it and cant tell if you cant admit it or just not interested.

Of course but Jesus said He came to divide, not to unite. We don't alter our beliefs to make friends.

Thats why understsnding and ignorance and wars are started. Mutual respect and interest in others beliefs helps towards acceptence. You dont have to change your belief but you just gave a motivation for war there.

Disagreeing is not disrespect. Those people are wrong.[
Youre doing both. Its because you favor division and dont have understanding.

That simply isn't true. It only seems true to people who do not understand Christianity. Christianity teaches love even for our enemies. Does Buddha teach that?

Yes, of course The Buddha teaches that. He doesnt teach division. Thats silly. No human sacrifice. Thats barbaric. I experienced christianity. Again, this is your belief blinding you. Not everyone who experiece christ loves him.

This is not about what is right for a person, it is abut what is true for everyone.

Nope. Whats true for me should not be true for you. I would be errogant to say otherwise. This is not respect. This thinking causes wars.

If I think Buddhaism is a false religion, I need to say so or I am being dishonest. and if it is, I am leading them astray

Understanding other religions doesnt mean you accept him. Just means if youre talking to a buddhist show interest in her faith.. the least you can do is show interest.
 
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Bob the Unbeliever

Well-Known Member
They can if they want to, do you think the criminals and the rapists are so
because their brains were wired in one specific way?

I think *something* in their lives caused them to become either criminals and/or rapists.

An Ultimate Creator would already **know** what that **was**-- and could ... STOP IT.

WITHOUT NEEDING TO MURDER ANYTHING.
 

Bob the Unbeliever

Well-Known Member
It is possible to know God exists. It is not possible to know He doe snot..

False: All we have to show, is that your god fails to be possible.

That is-- you cannot have a square-circle-- such things cannot exist.

You cannot have a god who is ALL GOOD, but allows EVIL.

If Evil is present? The god in question is NOT all good.

So if your description of your god says, "All Good" but your god permits evil? Your god is NOW PROVED TO NOT EXIST.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
paarsurrey said:
Why a non-omnipotent god is worshiped ? Please
Regards
Because being a deity didn't require that stipulation in ancient times (well, the most ancient). You just had to be better at something or cooler at something than normal people. GRASS AND TREES could be gods, for God's sake. :)

It is much later that omnipotence becomes an assumed trait, but the problem I have with it is that to my dog, I'm practically omnipotent, so how do we limited humans determine if God is truly omnipotent (can't seem to raise the beheaded back to life and many other things, like defeat an army with iron weapons) or just "cooler than we are"?
I don't agree with one one the point.
It is the human need that they worship, not of the Omnipotent God who existed from the eternity. Please
Regards
 

omega2xx

Well-Known Member
False: All we have to show, is that your god fails to be possible.

That is-- you cannot have a square-circle-- such things cannot exist.

You cannot have a god who is ALL GOOD, but allows EVIL.

If Evil is present? The god in question is NOT all good.

So if your description of your god says, "All Good" but your god permits evil? Your god is NOW PROVED TO NOT EXIST.


You are not qualified to know what is good or evil.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
The more you deny "preaching" the more you preach...... that's kinda how it works, son.

If you are not doing business for your god? I have to assume you are simply a volunteer-- and not getting paid.

That is no concern of mine either way...

I don't have a special God of mine , if we believe that there's a creator for this universe then
that won't be my own God or his own God, IOW God is the same one for everyone.

Why you think that discussing religion means preaching? what then the purpose
of the atheists in discussing religion, is it preaching for the Satan?
 

Bob the Unbeliever

Well-Known Member
I don't have a special God of mine ,

Oh, but you DO. I have witnessed in this very page, you describing YOUR god versus someone else describing THEIR god.

So, yes-- you do.

I say "your god" to also indicate that YOUR god is not MY god.

I have no god. I refuse to be a slave.
 

Bob the Unbeliever

Well-Known Member
So it wasn't nature and wiring !!

Wasn't it? How do YOU know?

All I said, is that I would change whatever it was, that caused Hitler to do evil things.

If that meant that he got a good, loving childhood? I'd see that he did.

If that meant that some deeply embedded switch in his brain needed changing? Then I'd see that it was.

If it was something else? I'd see to it-- because in this HYPOTHETICAL situation? I WOULD BE GOD-- AND I WOULD KNOW WHAT WAS NEEDED TO BE DONE.

All without MURDERING ... ANYTHING.

And just like that? *I* am MORE moral that any god or gods that exist!
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Oh, but you DO. I have witnessed in this very page, you describing YOUR god versus someone else describing THEIR god.

So, yes-- you do.

Still the same God, when God speaks about virgin Mary and Jesus in the quran
then how that become a different God?

I say "your god" to also indicate that YOUR god is not MY god.

Yes I know you believe that you were shaped by the stone by random process.

I have no god. I refuse to be a slave.

I accept to be a slave to almighty God but never to any human on earth?
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Wasn't it? How do YOU know?

All I said, is that I would change whatever it was, that caused Hitler to do evil things.

If that meant that he got a good, loving childhood? I'd see that he did.

If that meant that some deeply embedded switch in his brain needed changing? Then I'd see that it was.

If it was something else? I'd see to it-- because in this HYPOTHETICAL situation? I WOULD BE GOD-- AND I WOULD KNOW WHAT WAS NEEDED TO BE DONE.

All without MURDERING ... ANYTHING.

And just like that? *I* am MORE moral that any god or gods that exist!

Because some accept to be a slave to a human, it wasn't Hitler fighting
the world but it was his slaves that were murdering and they were listening
to him, God wanted us to live in peace and to fight such kind of evil
humans, the same as the North Koreans chose to be slaves to their leader
and being ready to destroy the world and all those who do harm by following
their leaders are slaves.
 
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