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Why would anyone want to vote for Hilary Clinton?

serp777

Well-Known Member
First of all, she's a complete liar and a soulless cyborg sociopath who enabled Bill Clinton and was incredibly apologetic for Bill's treatment of women.

And Here're video clips of Hilary lying for 13 minutes:


She's also incompetent. All of her "experience" that she likes to boast about is really just a lot of experience failing. Pushing health care with her husband was a failure, Benghazi was a failure, she was an awful secretary of state, she can't even keep control of her emails, etc.

Here's a list of her failures:

http://www.martinoauthor.com/hillary-clintons-failures/

Here's more lying and apologizing:


Everything I did was permitted. There was no law. There was no regulation. There was nothing that did not give me the full authority to decide how I was going to communicate. Previous secretaries of state have said they did the same thing…. Everything I did was permitted by law and regulation. I had one device. When I mailed anybody in the government, it would go into the government system.[114]

On September 9, 2015, Clinton apologized during an ABC News interview for using the private server, saying she was "sorry for that."[115]

Finally, she is also clearly being influenced by super pacs, wall street, and big business. The fact that her donations are so much larger than Bernie's shows that she is just a pawn of special interests. She's awful and I think people who vote for her are either blind or also want a president who is purchased by special interests. Here is some finances for her campaign:

https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cid=N00000019&cycle=Career

In other words, how on EARTH can ANYONE vote for Hilary? Seriously I don't understand you people at all.
 

serp777

Well-Known Member
To keep Trump from winning?
Hilary doesn't seem better than trump. Trump's morality is questionable and his rhetoric is obnoxious but at least he's not a massive liar. I'm not voting, but after doing more research I think trump might be the lesser of two evils. I'm very disappointed that bernie probably cant win.
 

McBell

Unbound
Hilary doesn't seem better than trump. Trump's morality is questionable and his rhetoric is obnoxious but at least he's not a massive liar. I'm not voting, but after doing more research I think trump might be the lesser of two evils. I'm very disappointed that bernie probably cant win.
Some people vote for their favored party regardless of who it is.....
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
First of all, she's a complete liar and a soulless cyborg sociopath who enabled Bill Clinton and was incredibly apologetic for Bill's treatment of women.

And Here're video clips of Hilary lying for 13 minutes:


She's also incompetent. All of her "experience" that she likes to boast about is really just a lot of experience failing. Pushing health care with her husband was a failure, Benghazi was a failure, she was an awful secretary of state, she can't even keep control of her emails, etc.

Here's a list of her failures:

http://www.martinoauthor.com/hillary-clintons-failures/

Here's more lying and apologizing:




Finally, she is also clearly being influenced by super pacs, wall street, and big business. The fact that her donations are so much larger than Bernie's shows that she is just a pawn of special interests. She's awful and I think people who vote for her are either blind or also want a president who is purchased by special interests. Here is some finances for her campaign:

https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cid=N00000019&cycle=Career

In other words, how on EARTH can ANYONE vote for Hilary? Seriously I don't understand you people at all.
Sorry to break it to ya, but here's the Politifact verdict on what Trump has said so far: http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

Versus Hillary: http://www.politifact.com/personalities/hillary-clinton/

The bottom line: your about as wrong as wrong could be.
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
Both candidates are corrupt, sociopathic criminals. The only difference with this election is that it's more apparent than usual. I don't vote, but if I did, I don't know whether attempting to arrive at an informed decision would be any more useful or meaningful than flipping a coin.
 

Akivah

Well-Known Member
If both candidates are so awful, then what does that say about the millions of people that voted for each of them?
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Hilary doesn't seem better than trump. Trump's morality is questionable and his rhetoric is obnoxious but at least he's not a massive liar.
I have to wonder where you got such an idea. He is demonstrably a massive, even compulsive liar. And that is before taking his immaturity, dishonesty, racism and general obnoxiousness into account.

I wish Hillary changed parties to become a Republican already. But she is still far better than Trump even tries to be.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
If both candidates are so awful, then what does that say about the millions of people that voted for each of them?
That they don't feel that they have a better choice with an actual chance of winning, perhaps.

It also says a lot about how difficult it is to earn and keep trust in the current system. And perhaps on how questionable is the very idea of having a political mandate with our current numbers of people.
 

serp777

Well-Known Member
Sorry to break it to ya, but here's the Politifact verdict on what Trump has said so far: http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

Versus Hillary: http://www.politifact.com/personalities/hillary-clinton/

The bottom line: your about as wrong as wrong could be.

Here's the real bottom line: your single source is garbage

http://www.cjr.org/campaign_desk/what_the_fact-checkers_get_wro.php

http://www.politifactbias.com/

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs...inds-fact-checkers-biased-against-republicans

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PolitiFact.com#Criticism_of_specific_fact_checks

http://www.newsmax.com/Reagan/PolitiFact-Fact-Checkers-Bias/2015/03/20/id/631565/

http://humanevents.com/2012/08/30/p...p-tell-nine-times-more-lies-than-left-really/

Clearly there is serious doubt about your weak source.

This is what politifact considers "pants on fire" for trump:
"Out of 67 counties (in Florida), I won 66, which is unprecedented. It's never happened before," Trump said March 21.

It is true that he won 66 counties (Sen. Marco Rubio won his birthplace of Miami-Dade before dropping out of the race), but Trump’s nearly unanimous win is hardly unprecedented.

We looked at county-by-county election results from the state’s Division of Elections website. Big wins aren’t altogether unusual in Florida, if you go back just a few years.

Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich split the state in the 2012 Republican primary, and both the GOP and Democrats split their primaries three ways in 2008.

This is what they should consider a half truth based on their own criteria, but because he's trump its considered a pants on fire. They even admit that half of the statement is true by saying he did win 66 counties. There is clearly a bias against trump.

Edit:

And look at this Hilary "Truth" that politifact gives where Hilary allegedly gave an early warning on forclosures:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...llary-clinton/an-early-voice-on-foreclosures/

Too bad it was already going downhill fast in 2007 and hilary merely jumped on the badnwagon.

http://www.investors.com/politics/e...history-concerning-her-role-in-subprime-bust/

This so called truth is extremely deceptive and misleading
 
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serp777

Well-Known Member
I have to wonder where you got such an idea. He is demonstrably a massive, even compulsive liar. And that is before taking his immaturity, dishonesty, racism and general obnoxiousness into account.

I wish Hillary changed parties to become a Republican already. But she is still far better than Trump even tries to be.

I'm no fan of trump but on what ground do you say hilary is better? Where is your source on all of this?
 

serp777

Well-Known Member
I have read several of his speeches. The guy is no better - or wiser - than a particularly gross high school bully.
Ok but how does that make him a racist? I found people saying that he wasn't a racist.

Like here:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...6d319c-00eb-11e6-9d36-33d198ea26c5_story.html

And here:

http://mediamatters.org/video/2016/03/15/ben-stein-i-have-not-heard-a-racist-word-out-of/209278

However I will say he has justified some violence against protestors, though, which is not acceptable. However, they were being obnoxious and screaming/insulting Trump which is probably a bad idea to do at such a politically charged rally. I mean none of the other candidates get extremely rude protestors on the scale that trump does. That doesn't justify violence but its not like trump told his supporters to go assault minorities. In my opinion he doesn't fit the definition of a bully.
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
In other words, how on EARTH can ANYONE vote for Hilary? Seriously I don't understand you people at all.

Seriously why would anybody vote for either candidate. Both the Republicans and Democrats have had their chance and all they do is feed there own(fellow rich republicans or fellow rich democrats), they never do anything for the common man. I don't understand why anyone would vote for the Republican or Democrat candidates at any government level. If they're the only one running I guess but sometimes no is a valid option.
 

serp777

Well-Known Member
Seriously why would anybody vote for either candidate. Both the Republicans and Democrats have had their chance and all they do is feed there own(fellow rich republicans or fellow rich democrats), they never do anything for the common man. I don't understand why anyone would vote for the Republican or Democrat candidates at any government level. If they're the only one running I guess but sometimes no is a valid option.

Well I don't want trump. I want Bernie but IMO trump is better than hillary.
 
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