Why would anyone want to vote for Hilary Clinton?

[Akivah]

Seriously why would anybody vote for either candidate. Both the Republicans and Democrats have had their chance and all they do is feed there own(fellow rich republicans or fellow rich democrats), they never do anything for the common man. I don't understand why anyone would vote for the Republican or Democrat candidates at any government level. If they're the only one running I guess but sometimes no is a valid option.

Leaving it blank is a cop-out. And voting against someone looks no different on the count than voting for the other. I'm gonna hold my nose and vote FOR one of them, once I figure it out.

 

[LuisDantas]

Ok but how does that make him a racist? I found people saying that he wasn't a racist.

You remember he has been promising a wall between Mexico and the USA?

 

[metis]

Here's the real bottom line: your single source is garbage

http://www.cjr.org/campaign_desk/what_the_fact-checkers_get_wro.php

http://www.politifactbias.com/

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs...inds-fact-checkers-biased-against-republicans

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PolitiFact.com#Criticism_of_specific_fact_checks

http://www.newsmax.com/Reagan/PolitiFact-Fact-Checkers-Bias/2015/03/20/id/631565/

http://humanevents.com/2012/08/30/p...p-tell-nine-times-more-lies-than-left-really/

Clearly there is serious doubt about your weak source.

This is what politifact considers "pants on fire" for trump:


This is what they should consider a half truth based on their own criteria, but because he's trump its considered a pants on fire. They even admit that half of the statement is true by saying he did win 66 counties. There is clearly a bias against trump.

Edit:

And look at this Hilary "Truth" that politifact gives where Hilary allegedly gave an early warning on forclosures:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...llary-clinton/an-early-voice-on-foreclosures/

Too bad it was already going downhill fast in 2007 and hilary merely jumped on the badnwagon.

http://www.investors.com/politics/e...history-concerning-her-role-in-subprime-bust/

This so called truth is extremely deceptive and misleading

Even many Republicans have focused in on Trumps many lies. Politifact ain't inerrant, but it won a Pulitzer Prize for a reason. For you to focus on Hillary on this versus Trump is quite bizarre, to say the least. You can have your opinions but not your own facts.

BTW, I ain't exactly a Hillary fan, as I've already mentioned on numerous occasions.

 

[metis]

Well I don't want trump. I want Bernie but IMO trump is better than hillary.

That really doesn't make any sense unless you're looking at this as if it's some sort of personality contest. On either a political or economic continuum, Hillary is closer to Bernie than the current Donald, and on top of that, the Donald, if elected, will have to push at least somewhat to the right in order to get anything passed.

 

[metis]

Ok but how does that make him a racist? I found people saying that he wasn't a racist.

So, you didn't catch his stereotype against Mexicans? Or how about his religious bigotry against Muslims? Or how about his sexist bigotry against women? Heck, there are 9 Republican legislators in D.C. who have openly said they will not vote for Trump because of his many bigoted statements.

 

[bobhikes]

Leaving it blank is a cop-out. And voting against someone looks no different on the count than voting for the other. I'm gonna hold my nose and vote FOR one of them, once I figure it out.

There are many independent candidates to vote for other then them. Blank is a cop-out a write in of No is a message.

 

[averageJOE]

I'm no fan of trump but on what ground do you say hilary is better? Where is your source on all of this?

Hillary is not "better", just less destructive. Trump has the potential to cause a racial civil war. What do you think will happen if he attempts to deport 12 million people out of the US?

 

[serp777]

You remember he has been promising a wall between Mexico and the USA?

How is a wall racist? I think the wall is a weak plan but trying to prevent illegal immigrants from crossing over doesn't make you evil or racist.

 

[serp777]

That really doesn't make any sense unless you're looking at this as if it's some sort of personality contest. On either a political or economic continuum, Hillary is closer to Bernie than the current Donald, and on top of that, the Donald, if elected, will have to push at least somewhat to the right in order to get anything passed.

Actually it does make sense. Both trump and bernie are anti establishment and Hilary is pro establishment. This is well known as neither Bernie nor trump are favored by their respective party. I'd recommend reading about the positions of each candidate before assuming that i'm looking at it as merely a personality contest.

 

[serp777]

Even many Republicans have focused in on Trumps many lies. Politifact ain't inerrant, but it won a Pulitzer Prize for a reason. For you to focus on Hillary on this versus Trump is quite bizarre, to say the least. You can have your opinions but not your own facts.

BTW, I ain't exactly a Hillary fan, as I've already mentioned on numerous occasions.

I don't have my own facts. Hillary versus trump isn't bizarre at all either because they're likely to be the two candidates running against each other. You seem confused.

Also, it won a Pulitzer price, and therefore its not biased and is factually correct? That's a non sequitor.

 

[serp777]

So, you didn't catch his stereotype against Mexicans? Or how about his religious bigotry against Muslims? Or how about his sexist bigotry against women? Heck, there are 9 Republican legislators in D.C. who have openly said they will not vote for Trump because of his many bigoted statements.

First of all, you can't be racist against muslims. Muslims are apart of a religion, not a race. Also there are numerous prominent democrats and republicans who say that trump is neither sexist nor racist. And trumps wife doesn't think trump is sexist.

In fact, Hillary is the sexist one ironically enough. She's an enabler of bill clinton and denounced the women whom Bill sexually assaulted as attention seekers and liars. She doesn't actually care about women; she's a political chameleon who changes to fit the circumstances.

Also where are your sources showing the sexist/racist comments? Show me an example of where trump says something actually sexist or racist like "Men are better than women", or "women are horrible", or "white supremacy ftw" or something that actually fits the description of "sexist/racist bigot." I'd like to say that calling Carly ugly isn't sexist, if that's what you're going to bring up. Trump is certainly a jerk, but being a jerk doesn't make you sexist or racist.

 

[serp777]

Hillary is not "better", just less destructive. Trump has the potential to cause a racial civil war. What do you think will happen if he attempts to deport 12 million people out of the US?

Is Hilary less destructive? What about her incompetence with respect to the middle east and the arab spring? Her failures are numerous and just as destructive. Also trump wouldn't be able to deport all illegal immigrants; the president alone doesn't have enough power to do that.

 

[Revoltingest]

Is Hilary less destructive? What about her incompetence with respect to the middle east and the arab spring? Her failures are numerous and just as destructive. Also trump wouldn't be able to deport all illegal immigrants; the president alone doesn't have enough power to do that.

We hear criticism that Trump might have a violent policy.
But we know that Hillary voted to start the Iraq war, & voted to continue both wars.
Now she threatens to "obliterate Iran".
So it's a known danger with a record of destruction vs an unknown danger with no record.
I say the Hildabeast is the greater threat to our wallets & to them darned brown Mustlims in the Middle East.

Btw, have you ever noticed that people who say "you're entitled to your own opinions
but not hour own facts" often suffer from the illusion that their opinions are inerrant facts?

 

[serp777]

We hear criticism that Trump might have a violent policy.
But we know that Hillary voted to start the Iraq war, & voted to continue both wars.
Now she threatens to "obliterate Iran".
So it's a known danger with a record of destruction vs an unknown danger with no record.
I say the Hildabeast is the greater threat to our wallets & to them darned brown Mustlims in the Middle East.

Btw, have you ever noticed that people who say "you're entitled to your own opinions
but not hour own facts" often suffer from the illusion that their opinions are inerrant facts?

Exactly not to mention the fact that Hilary wanted to start a war with syria and Assad while ISIS was literally coming into existence, even though Assad and the Russians were a bulwark against ISIS. Her foreign policy is so bad.

 

[LuisDantas]

How is a wall racist? I think the wall is a weak plan but trying to prevent illegal immigrants from crossing over doesn't make you evil or racist.

... I think you are missing the point entirely.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Some people vote for their favored party regardless of who it is.....

I actually agree. People really don't research and concider the consequences.

Problem now is every candidate is incompetent and or incapable as a result of mindless voting practices and never challenging the status quo or business as usual.

This (The present selection of candidates from all parties.) is the somber result before our very eyes.

Everyone is going to have to pay the piper.

Sad it always comes down to things like this.

 

[serp777]

... I think you are missing the point entirely.

Well we were talking about Trump being racist, so how am I missing the point? Are you saying a wall is divisive? It is divisive but it isn't racist.

 

[Revoltingest]

Well we were talking about Trump being racist, so how am I missing the point? Are you saying a wall is divisive? It is divisive but it isn't racist.

When I've looked into some specific claims about Trump saying something racist, eg, by NPR,
I've found quotes were either inaccurate or artfully interpreted.
It's as though the charge of "racist" is the presumed premise, & evidence must be made to fit.
People seem compelled to find every aspect of the opposition evil.
But there really is no need to.
There are plenty of things about Trump to dislike & disagree with.

 

[LuisDantas]

Well we were talking about Trump being racist, so how am I missing the point? Are you saying a wall is divisive? It is divisive but it isn't racist.

Yes, you are missing the point.

 

[metis]

Actually it does make sense. Both trump and bernie are anti establishment and Hilary is pro establishment. This is well known as neither Bernie nor trump are favored by their respective party. I'd recommend reading about the positions of each candidate before assuming that i'm looking at it as merely a personality contest.

I have.