Why Would God Created Souls If...(Christians Only)

[ChristineES]

From reading the Bible, both the New and the Old Testaments, seem to suggest that this unquenchable fire spoke of is symbolism. Also I get that idea from practical ideas.
I mean, when I burn a log, the fire stops once the log is ash and there is no more fuel for it. Nothing can be burned in eternity, whatever is being burned will turn ash usually pretty quickly. That is why I believe it to be symbolic. When a person rejects God, that person will be separated from God until he comes back to God. There is always a chance that the person will accept God at any time-- hence the unquenchable idea.

(I do see some flaws in this idea, but for the most part, that is what I believe)

 

[science_is_my_god]

Rrrrrright.... the hundreds of pre-Nicea quotes were all forgeries.... I get it now.

Source?

It is completely plausable. The church had waaaaaaay too much power back then. And my source for my statments are located in the October, 2002 issue of History Magazine, pp. 67-69. I also saw it on the History Channel's series: Histories Mysteries program, although it was just a watered down version.

 

[TurkeyOnRye]

So, I guess Christians are claiming there's no hell anymore, am I right?

 

[Scott1]

It is completely plausable. The church had waaaaaaay too much power back then. And my source for my statments are located in the October, 2002 issue of History Magazine, pp. 67-69. I also saw it on the History Channel's series: Histories Mysteries program, although it was just a watered down version.

What's amazing is how every other journal and periodical missed this information.

Hmmm.... kudos to History Magazine.

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So, I guess Christians are claiming there's no hell anymore, am I right?

No, I'm pretty sure we all do.

 

[TurkeyOnRye]

Nope.

Anything else?

I thought I hit the nail on the head, but I guess not. Just out of curiosity, how do you believe someone gets saved?

 

[Scott1]

I thought I hit the nail on the head, but I guess not. Just out of curiosity, how do you believe someone gets saved?

By the grace of God.

 

[ChristineES]

So, I guess Christians are claiming there's no hell anymore, am I right?

No, some Christians are claiming there is no literal hell. Christians are individuals, too.

 

[TurkeyOnRye]

By the grace of God.

Ok...

Isn't there a path to follow? I'm not trying to be pretentious or anything, if you feel that is the case. I honestly wanted to hear your point of view.

 

[baybars]

By the grace of God ? What in hell is that supposed to mean,oh one who speaks in riddles ?
I've seen nowhere in the bible where the word hell is mentioned. When an evil person
dies, he just does not get resurrected,he will cease to exist is all .Borderline cases
as I understand it will get a second chance. Anyone else believe that the book of
revelation is just fear mongering? It doesn't seem to fit with the rest of the bible. It's
as is someone gathered up loose pages of the bible and accidentally scooped up a few
pages of forbidden planet and some pages out of a hulk comic book and then stapled it all together.

 

[science_is_my_god]

What's amazing is how every other journal and periodical missed this information.

Hmmm.... kudos to History Magazine.

Yeah, well, I would guess religion is too much of a controversial topic for most scholors, as they don't want to get involved in the politics associated with religion, and I don't blame them.

 

[Scott1]

Ok...

Isn't there a path to follow? I'm not trying to be pretentious or anything, if you feel that is the case. I honestly wanted to hear your point of view.

Long version: You can read the Catechism.

Short version: ALL those who, acting under the inspiration of grace, seek God sincerely and strive to fulfill his will, can be saved.