sandandfoam
Veteran Member
Willamena just made my point - worship is to do with a need in me
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Why Would Humans Be Important to God?
- Thread starter Kilgore Trout
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Willamena just made my point - worship is to do with a need in me
sandandfoam
Veteran Member
Same answer as above - worship is about the worshipper
edit - Also worth pointing out that if I imagine God is listening, or it seems to me that God is listening then to all intents and purposes God is listening.
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Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
DavyCrocket2003
Well-Known Member
None that I can think of. Without such a hypothetical being communicating with us, I don't think we can come up with an independent reason for it to care about us. For all we know, it could hate us. For all we know, it is unaware of us. For all we know, it doesn't exist. For all we know, it doesn't even "think" in a way that allows it to hold things as important. We really know nothing about it, sorry.
Tathagata
Freethinker
That's a semantic gripe and really, it makes no sense and is of no use in intellectual discourse.
When we say "important," it doesn't mean that we are ascribing our concept of "importance" to God, but rather using the word "importance" to communicate information to eachother as to what are "importance" is to God.
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sandandfoam
Veteran Member
It makes no sense to you that whatever I would attribute to God speaks of me not God?
Thesavorofpan
Is not going to save you.
Yeah, you can put it that way, but we really don't know until we meet God when we die.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
Not in any way that you'll accept.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
So the actual existence of what you're worshipping is irrelevant to you. I can accept that.
Tathagata
Freethinker
Well, first of all, your notion of God IS God because he hasn't been demonstrated to be part of reality. You can't assume the existence of something (a projection of your mind) and then say your notion of God (a projection of your mind) doesn't accurately represent the God you have already assumed (a projection of your mind). This is despite whether God actually exists or not, because I'm going based on our current knowledge.
Also, what you're saying can be applied to anything. For example, a banana. You can give a banana attributes and tell someone about it, but those are attributes according to and percieved by you, but don't actually represent the banana in reality. A person must (figuritively speaking) taste the banana to truly know it's attributes and not just hear someones description of it.
But for all intensive and useful purposes, we must still use language to communicate.
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Holy non sequitur, Batman. How did you derive that from what was said?
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
Logic.
PolyHedral
Superabacus Mystic
Does this mean that God does not prioritize?
no-body
Well-Known Member
In so far as everything is God and only an illusion. God just is. I am, etc.
sandandfoam
Veteran Member
Agreed
I'm not a believer that objective reality is knowable to human beings. For us reality is perception and language.
We can demonstrate lot's of things to each other but we create them between us. These things may or may not exist apart from us. We cannot know. I believe we can experience reality - but that is a belief.
Why can't I?
I believe in objective reality - I believe in God, God is a way that I can make sense through myth of that reality. God/reality is incomprehensible to me. But I feel as if I experience both. It may not work for you that I can make sense of my world through myth, at the same time recognizing that my myths are no more than the products of my mind, but I find myself with no better alternative and it seems to work well for me.
At the outset you said that my notion of God is God. That remains my position
And we can never know if we are tasting the same thing for we are trapped in our bodies and we all see the world as we are
Indeed. But language is not a repository of meaning. Meaning is created between us.
Eliot Wild
Irreverent Agnostic Jerk
No He doesn't, and He has trouble multi-tasking as well. Plus, His communication skills are elementary, at best, and He is equally lacking in customer service and time management abilities. Believe me, I'll never use Him as an intern again.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
You get what you pay for. Live and learn my friend.
Eliot Wild
Irreverent Agnostic Jerk
Ain't that the truth. He said in the interview that He created the entire universe and made humans in his image . . . Huh!!!! Whatever, the Dude couldn't even use a multi-line phone system.