Eve was deceived by the BIG lie Satan told her at Genesis 3:4 that she would Not die.It was Eve who tempted Adam.
Whereas, Adam was Not deceived 1 Timothy 2:14.
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Eve was deceived by the BIG lie Satan told her at Genesis 3:4 that she would Not die.It was Eve who tempted Adam.
Basically, the words can mean almost anything?You are Not alone in wondering, and having an inquiring mind one wants to know.
In Bible speak, so to speak, we find the word ' day ' has shades of meaning.
Even today we speak of 'grandfather's day' and we know that is more than a 24 hour day.
ALL of the creative days notice are summed up by the single word ' day ' at Genesis 2:4.
What we find is that Adam and Eve would die in the ' day ' they ate, but Not in a 24-hour day.
Adam lived 930 years and the oldest person lived 969 years - Genesis 5:3; Genesis 5:27.
In God's eyes a thousand years is as a ' day ' so they died within that thousand year time frame or 'day'.
- Psalms 90:4 and 2 Peter 3:8. In other words, No one would live past age 1,000.
Just as Jesus' coming 'Millennium-Long Day' is a thousand-year day or a time frame of one-thousand years.
I'm reading some of the comments here, and while I certainly can't account for everything -- obviously -- it seems to me that humans alone argue about religion. Plants do not. Lions do not. Gorillas do not.
I notice you didn't answer my question. If you were in the place of Adam and Eve would you have followed the rules that God set?I remember when I was about age 20 there was a local ice cream farm store.
As I ate the delicious ice cream it was so fresh tasting as if it was just made directly from the cow.
A silly thought entered my head that I wondered if Adam could have tasted this would he have sinned ________
Can any of know what we would have done.
I like it here on terra firma (Earth) and I know I don't want to leave it.
So, if I would feel that way in Eden I would think I would have been content to be here forever.
Remember: Adam did Not eat until after Eve presented the fruit to Adam.
So, could be Adam deliberately chose to listen to Eve because he did Not want to live without Eve.
Did Adam chose suicide rather than live without Eve over trusting his God ______
And the serpent was the only one that did not lie in the story. Yet somehow the serpent "deceived Eve".
Eve was deceived by the BIG lie Satan told her at Genesis 3:4 that she would Not die.
Whereas, Adam was Not deceived 1 Timothy 2:14.
Well, laugh if you want, but it does show that at least some in Israel prior to the writing of Genesis knew of the Babylonian narrative. Maybe study instead of laughing at someone and I think you'll probably get much further ahead.
BTW, laughing at someone in a sarcastic manner really isn't compatible with Christ's teachings, but then you're a Trump supporter if I remember correctly.
.... and because of Jesus' ransom price (Matthew 20:28) we find the return of the ' tree of life ' - Revelation 22:2,14
The ' tree of life ' for the humble meek people who will inherit the Earth - Matthew 5:5; Psalms 37:9-11
I remember when I was about age 20 there was a local ice cream farm store.
As I ate the delicious ice cream it was so fresh tasting as if it was just made directly from the cow.
A silly thought entered my head that I wondered if Adam could have tasted this would he have sinned ________
Can any of know what we would have done.
I like it here on terra firma (Earth) and I know I don't want to leave it.
So, if I would feel that way in Eden I would think I would have been content to be here forever.
Remember: Adam did Not eat until after Eve presented the fruit to Adam.
So, could be Adam deliberately chose to listen to Eve because he did Not want to live without Eve.
Did Adam chose suicide rather than live without Eve over trusting his God ______
Context matters. God had said "On that day you will die". That was the claim that the serpent (the Satan assumption came later) was responding to. And Eve ate and did not die. In fact God knew that they could still live forever in the myth since they had not eaten of the Tree of Life. Skipping forward to 3:22 and beyond:
" 22 And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.” 23 So the Lord God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken. 24 After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life."
The ostrich defense. So effectiveSubduction Zone, I already asked URAVIP2ME that question. However, I've noticed that he won't answer questions that he doesn't like.
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ok, so that's how you size up humans vs. animals. Not me. I don't see humans in the same category of recognition (i.e. thought process) as gorillas, snakes, etc. Although it is true -- that humans can act like them.Plants, lions, gorillas do not have such useless thoughts like Gods and religions. Their are practical - 'how much that deer weighs', 'that is a well fermented fruit, will eat that and play with the ladies of the harem', etc.
There are a few other differences also. Hey, but that's how you think, and that's the way it goes, as my aunt (not a believer in God) says.Plants, lions, gorillas do not have such useless thoughts like Gods and religions. Their are practical - 'how much that deer weighs', 'that is a well fermented fruit, will eat that and play with the ladies of the harem', etc.
yeahhhh....Nor tigers and bears.
I am pretty sure you are speaking in general about what someone would do or would not do. Anyway, either way, whether you were or were not, it is clear that God gave Adam and Eve free choice as to whether they would listen to God in the form of obeying (respecting) Him. It takes a while to understand I think that respect and obey can have different modules to it. So they had to love both God and the life He gave them. Obviously Adam rebelled because he was upset that Eve was going to die. And so he figured he'd hold it against God by killing himself as well.Sure. We would have done the exact same thing as Adam and Eve did because they were created perfect... They were a perfect creation of God where they couldn't have been any better. Click here: Love and Rebellion | Religious Forums
No you wouldn't of have... Not if you were encountered with the same circumstances that Adam and Eve were encountered with. Please click here: Love and Rebellion | Religious Forums
So, are you saying that Eve was the one who made the silly decision that she wasn't content in paradise? And that Adam's decision was based upon his desire not to want to live without Eve? Please click here: Love and Rebellion | Religious Forums
Sorry for both if I misread you. Please forgive me for this blunder as I now know I conflated you with someone else.I wasn't laughing. I thought that the part of your comment that I quoted summed up a lot of the points in this thread about how the Noah flood story was a copied ancient myth. Also, I tried to find an internet image of a smiley face with a wink and thumbs up, but I failed to figure out how to shrink it to a reasonable size.
Really??? You had to use a comeback like that? Also, please don't be so touchy. Plus, I don't know where you got the idea that I was a Trump supporter.
Perhaps it is simple. Humans have the capacity to lie, fake things. Animals are more honest.ok, so that's how you size up humans vs. animals. Not me. I don't see humans in the same category of recognition (i.e. thought process) as gorillas, snakes, etc. Although it is true -- that humans can act like them.
Ever wonder why?Perhaps it is simple. Humans have the capacity to lie, fake things. Animals are more honest.
Yes, even a lot of people even think that God's Kingdom means: Heaven. (Kingdom as another word for Heaven)Basically, the words can mean almost anything?