Bird123
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Look closely. There is Genius to that ignorance. The first thing God pointed out to me is that mankind carries such a narrow view. How much are you missing?
That's what I see. It's very clear!!
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Why would someone acknowledge the existence of God but refuse to worship Him?
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Look closely. There is Genius to that ignorance. The first thing God pointed out to me is that mankind carries such a narrow view. How much are you missing?
That's what I see. It's very clear!!
Trailblazer
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How could he know God? He ascribes to none of the religions of God.
His belief system is called Discovery in which he Discovers the Truth about God with no Messengers of God.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
His belief system.
You talked about "someone acknowledge His existence, but refuse to worship Him and to obey the commands.."
So after believing in God, they either are certain that the Commands of God as described by a certain religion or religions are truly commands of God or not.
If they are certain, it is not necessary that they are pious people who would follow the laws. in all religion there are those who are not practicing but are believers.
Then they might be believing in God but not certain that the commands of Gods as described by a religion or religions are truly commands of God. You know people tend to tamper with the laws, and there are many false prophets. In this case why to follow a law that they are not certain about its authenticity?!
This is based on what I understood from your OP. I am not sure that we are on the same page though
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
For the same reason that somebody in North Korea, who recognises the existance and absolute power of Kim Jong Un, might not worhip him.
If tomorrow I become convinced that the god of the bible exists, I'ld also have quite a big problem with "worshipping" an entity that I consider to be an authoritarian, dictatorial, homophobic, mysogenistic, barbaric, immoral monster.
Next to that, I also have a problem with "worshipping" anything, full stop. The very act of worship is not something I consider particularly helpfull or usefull for anything.
And if I wouldn't think that, I'ld still say that worship is something that needs to be earned, much like respect. And simply holding absolute power, is not one of the parameters that gains you such.
Kim Jong-Un has absolute power in North Korea, but his actions don't really make him worthy of respect - let alone worship - right?
Curiously, he too demands of his subjects that they worship him.
In fact, it seems to be the case that entities that demand worship, actually never deserve or earned it. And in fact, in most cases - if not all - the opposite seems true........The engage in behaviour that pretty much exclude them from being worthy of respect or worship.
They are mass murderers, oppressors, intolerant (racist, sexist, fascist, homophobic,...), narcistic, etc.
Because of this... whenever I hear of an entity, being a god or otherwise, that demands to be worshipped - all kinds of alarm bells go off. And upon closer inspection of the backstory of such entities, it always turns out that those alarm bells are justified.
The bottom line here is simply: might, does not make right.
rational experiences
Veteran Member
If science taught trust in God, it meant human spiritual life mind choices to reverence spiritually the presence of our planet. The same as the spiritual teachings say to honour Nature and to honour animals.....yet humans kill food to eat, both from Nature and also the animal life.
This form of review then claims, so if you honour God, then you would never alter God...but if you worship the power that you claim is GOD, then you would preach to worship the gain of the power of God by documented science. If you taught spirituality as a family member, worship was never involved.
This form of review then claims, so if you honour God, then you would never alter God...but if you worship the power that you claim is GOD, then you would preach to worship the gain of the power of God by documented science. If you taught spirituality as a family member, worship was never involved.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
No, but infallibility makes right.
God is infallible so God is always right.
How so?
The Bible depicts him as ambivalent, cruel, vindictive and capricious.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
Do you believe everything you read?
Imo, the Bible never should have gone to publication as it has done more harm than good.
Certainly not the Bible.
From where I sit, you two seem to be on equal footing.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
No, it doesn't either.
To be infallible merely means that you always succeed in everything you do. It doesn't mean that you are (im)moral. Setting out to commit massive genocide is immoral. If the entity doing that is infallible, it only means that he'll succeed in the genocide.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
No, that is not what infallible means.
infallible: incapable of making mistakes or being wrong.
infallible means - Google Search
So if God is infallible and if God set out to commit massive genocide or if God allowed all those people to die in the Great Flood, then that could not have been a mistake, it could not have been wrong.
I can hardly believe how many atheists actually BELIEVE these Bible stories were actual events that took place in history.
It is no wonder atheists cannot believe in God. I wouldn't either, if I believed the Bible stories -- God did this, God did that. Imo, these are stories men wrote to convey certain spiritual truths as that is how scriptures were written thousands of years ago, with many allegories.Regarding the Great Flood, Baha'u'llah wrote that we are to disregard tales and traditions that can never be verified:
“Mention hath been made in certain books of a deluge which caused all that existed on earth, historical records as well as other things, to be destroyed. Moreover, many cataclysms have occurred which have effaced the traces of many events. Furthermore, among existing historical records differences are to be found, and each of the various peoples of the world hath its own account of the age of the earth and of its history. Some trace their history as far back as eight thousand years, others as far as twelve thousand years. To any one that hath read the book of Jük it is clear and evident how much the accounts given by the various books have differed.
Please God thou wilt turn thine eyes towards the Most Great Revelation, and entirely disregard these conflicting tales and traditions.” Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, pp. 174-175