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Will the Israelis & Palestinian problem be ever solved ?
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dust1n
Zindīq
Probably not in our life times. To be blamed would be the oppressive regimes that rule over all countries. It wouldn't matter who was 'right' or 'wrong', if either country has any resemblance of egalitarian views and liberal standings.
Caladan
Agnostic Pantheist
That's interesting, because last I checked, unlike the dictatorships around it, Israel functions on a multiple party system, and has offered unparalleled rights to its citizens in a region where human rights has been a sensitive subject. Israel has championed women and gay rights in a region where nations have struggled in giving voting rights to women, and condemning gays to death. Israel has mandated by law voting rights to Arab women (and all its citizens) from its beginning and is recognizing same sex marriage. I'd say that Israel has been exceptional in its 'egalitarian views and liberal standings', and even more so with the challenges that the middle east provide in that regard.
As for the OP, it would be much better to focus on specific issues than generating such general threads, with such strange questions. if you really are interested in the subject, and are at least minimally informed these are not the kind of OPs I'd expect. perhaps providing relevant questions about the on going negotiations for example, about past negotiations, etc.
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Caladan
Agnostic Pantheist
Did the Indians have 5 armies that attacked the colonies?
when the UN has mandated Israeli independence, and Israel has put it to action, armies of 5 nations strengthen by forces from nations like Saudi Arabia and Yemen, have provoked a military campaign against Israel by invading the area which was the British mandate before the partition plan. somehow, your analogy is very melodramatic.
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sandandfoam
Veteran Member
Peace will come. Look at Ireland.
Caladan
Agnostic Pantheist
Just like Israel received its independence, so did the Arab nations. would you question the rights of Arab states to become independent after being governed by Britain and colonial powers in general?
Bismillah
Submit
"Just like Israel received its independence, so did the Arab nations. would you question the rights of Arab states to become independent after being governed by Britain and colonial powers in general?" If only for the fact that Arabs had populated the land during colonial times and after. Not at all the same with the Zionist movement focused on illegally transporting as many Jews as possible to Palestine to outnumber and displace the local populace.
I don't question the right to self-determination.
I don't question the right to self-determination.
A stance that would imply support of Israel's right to self-determination and a steadfast repudiation of the Hamas charter. It's a good start ... :yes:
The "Palestinian problem" will be solved if and when they denounce the political ideology that feeds on their victimhood.
Just to help clarify the question, would you mind offering a couple of examples of pre-1948 Palestinian culture or polity? Perhaps a book of verse, or a coin, or a flag, or a favorite soup, or ...
Your fostered inability to acknowledge what, in fact, is victimizing the people of Gaza is part of the problem.
Nice dodge: predictable and transparent, but nice.
Caladan
Agnostic Pantheist
Thats interesting, because there are 7 generations in my family who have been living in Israel.
Aquitaine
Well-Known Member
I honestly wish they'd both get along, the situation has becoming unneccessarily complicated and the longer it lasts, the harder it will be to overcome.
I think really the major problems lied in Israelis "rebirth" last century. I think there should've been tighter rules to make sure that there were two separate states and that Jordan would accept the Palestinians. Or, more efforts should've been made to get them both to just integrate under one single nation.
I think really the major problems lied in Israelis "rebirth" last century. I think there should've been tighter rules to make sure that there were two separate states and that Jordan would accept the Palestinians. Or, more efforts should've been made to get them both to just integrate under one single nation.
kai
ragamuffin
There was no Jordan until there were two states created Israel and Jordan