Will the Religions Ever be Completely Driven out by the Sciences?

[Jeremiahcp]

Yes, school.

I brought up those two out of nowhere. For goodness sake.

Would you like me to make another comparison?

Saying I don't need religion because I have science is like saying I don't need this loaf of bread, I have these tulips.

Are you, like, happy now?

Ya, that makes much more sense.

Also, that bit where you tried to boss me around, not gonna work. If you don't like my post, and you feel it is breaking some rule, report it to the mods. You are not a mod and it is not your place to tell me what I can or cannot post.

 

[Rival]

Ya, that makes much more sense.

Also, that bit where you tried to boss me around, not gonna work. If you don't like my post, and you feel it is breaking some rule, report it to the mods. You are not a mod and it is not your place to tell me what I can or cannot post.

Not responding to the topic gets my goat. I was just using my (clearly basic) experience of maths and biology that I studied at Secondary School when I was 15. There, they are simply not the same and there was no maths in my biology classes. I kind of thought people would have understood this, but clearly it went over heads. Then you insisted on kicking me down about it.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

Not responding to the topic gets my goat. I was just using my (clearly basic) experience of maths and biology that I studied at Secondary School when I was 15. There, they are simply not the same and there was no maths in my biology classes. I kind of thought people would have understood this, but clearly it went over heads. Then you insisted on kicking me down about it.

"I was just using my (clearly basic) experience of maths and biology that I studied at Secondary School when I was 15. There, they are simply not the same and there was no maths in my biology classes."

Surely, you must understand there is more to it than just what you learned in secondary school, and that your understanding is not the end all be all of math and science. It is fine if math and science is not your thing, but is another things to pretend your limited education is the capstone of math and science. The two are conjoined twins, they can't get away from each other.

 

[Rival]

Surely, you must understand there is more to it than just what you learned in secondary school

Not really. Maths made a big part of chemistry and physics, but not so much biology. Biology is something I enjoy to this day but I have a terrible mathphobia. For me, I suppose I just never needed maths to tell me how vaccinations work, or sterilisation. For me, the two are very different. I guess we just can't expect that a person on a forum is talking on the same wavelength/experience as we are.

I'm sorry if I came across snappy or bad tempered.

 

[suncowiam]

No, because we cannot disprove god.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

Not really. Maths made a big part of chemistry and physics, but not so much biology. Biology is something I enjoy to this day but I have a terrible mathphobia. For me, I suppose I just never needed maths to tell me how vaccinations work, or sterilisation. For me, the two are very different. I guess we just can't expect that a person on a forum is talking on the same wavelength/experience as we are.

I'm sorry if I came across snappy or bad tempered.

There was a lot of math involved in making those vaccinations work. There is definitely a ton of math in microbiology.

"I have a terrible mathphobia"

Math is everywhere; it is almost impossible to escape it. Some are naturally gifted (I am not one of those people), while others have to work it at. Though, from my experience understanding math is more about effort than it is innate talent.

 

[Rival]

Math is everywhere; it is almost impossible to escape it. Some are naturally gifted (I am not one of those people), while others have to work it at. Though, from my experience understanding math is more about effort than it is innate talent.

Well, I've made it this far

 

[Altfish]

Unfortunately I fear the answer is no.
Religion is much too good a power driven, money making scam to be eradicated.

 

[Brickjectivity]

A. Society continues to diverge into a wealthy educated class and a poor class. The wealthy will be tempted to use religion to suppress technology. It has happened before multiple times, and it can happen again and again forever. This is the path we are on now, and this is likely what will happen. It is part of our history, much repeated and almost certainly is the future. The only thing that may stop it from happening is the absolute amazing power of today's tech. Its almost impossible to label it as an evil thing, so its hard to suppress.

B. Its also possible that we return to Egyptian style life, with a priestly class that controls all knowledge and keeps everyone else from having any knowledge. Its a more extreme version of A where the priests know magic and represent gods, and the rest of humanity is suppressed and prevented from knowing anything.

C. Technology escapes the control of the wise and those who would be its priests. So far this does not look promising. Everything is kept under increasingly tight wraps in expensive journals. Its likely technology will be taken away from public school curricula -- not soon but within a century. The joy of knowing how things work is always a threat to centralized authority.

Notice that all three are very nearly the same. So the likelihood is that Science will become the tool of a learned magician class who will keep everyone else in religious observance -- answer B. Unless of course someone prevents it.

 

[YmirGF]

Will the religions ever be completely driven out by the sciences? Why or why not?

A garden gnome can always hope.

BONUS QUESTION: What will the relationship of the religions to the sciences be in 100 years? Will religions become increasingly aligned with the sciences by discarding notions that are contradicted by the sciences?

With further advances of science religion could find itself marginalized into obscurity much like flat-earthers. Religions that try to keep up will have to be careful that their doctrine still remains coherent in light of unfolding evidence. This may require some pretty spectacular mental gymnastics. The future will be fun.

 

[LuisDantas]

Religion and science are not nearly the same thing; they were never supposed to be.

I agree.

If anything, religion can be compared to, for lack of a better expression, "human and social sciences technology".

Technology, it can be good to remind ourselves, is the practical application of science.

 

[George-ananda]

Will the Religions Ever be Completely Driven out by the Sciences?

I see more of a merger of the two. And I see it already forwarded by the more progressive thinkers of both fields.

 

[Rational Agnostic]

Will the religions ever be completely driven out by the sciences? Why or why not?

BONUS QUESTION: What will the relationship of the religions to the sciences be in 100 years? Will religions become increasingly aligned with the sciences by discarding notions that are contradicted by the sciences?

Interesting questions. I highly doubt that religion will ever be completely driven out by the sciences. I am not an expert in evolutionary psychology by any means, but it seems as though the desire to believe in something greater, or perhaps the desire to submit to some form of intangible, powerful authority figure, seems to be innate in human beings, likely because it aided it aided in survival/reproduction rates in the past. However, I think that religions will increasingly become aligned with the sciences. A few hundred years ago, it was heresy to believe in a heliocentric solar system, or even that the law of gravity existed. Hopefully, with continued acceptance of the reality of scientific discoveries, religions will become increasingly reasonable and accepting of newly discovered scientific facts.

 

[George-ananda]

BONUS QUESTION: What will the relationship of the religions to the sciences be in 100 years? Will religions become increasingly aligned with the sciences by discarding notions that are contradicted by the sciences?

I would say basically, Yes, but there might still be a few hold-outs. Even today the number of religious/spiritual people holding views in contradiction to science is waning.

 

[Kemosloby]

If Science could tell us if or when Science will drive out religion people will not need to look to religion for the answer. So perhaps science could start there in its attempt to replace religion.

 

[Etritonakin]

Will the religions ever be completely driven out by the sciences? Why or why not?

BONUS QUESTION: What will the relationship of the religions to the sciences be in 100 years? Will religions become increasingly aligned with the sciences by discarding notions that are contradicted by the sciences?

Science has disproved false claims of religions -but that truly has nothing to do with God or what the bible actually says,

If one honestly does the math, one will realize that religion and everything else will be completely driven out by the products of science coupled with willingness to do evil. In other words, man will soon destroy man altogether -unless it is prevented.

Matt 24:21For at that time there will be great tribulation, unmatched from the beginning of the world until now, and never to be seen again. 22If those days had not been cut short, nobody would be saved........

....also translated "no flesh would be saved alive".

God will "destroy those who destroy the earth" before man completely destroys man (leaving approximately 10 percent of the human population), set up the literal government of God through Christ on earth -with those made immortal at the return of Christ as kings and priests reigning on Earth.

Those humans who remain will repopulate, and there will be no more war.

All who have ever lived and died in this time from Adam will be resurrected and judged according to their works after a thousand years of the reign of that government. Some -based on works -will receive life, some will be cast into the "lake of fire" and purified -or, as it says "saved, yet so as by fire".

Humans will continue to reproduce and then become immortals.

They will be given bodies similar to that which allowed the Word to create all things in the first place.

Science will be employed to create throughout the universe in peace and happiness.

As it says.... not only the earth, but the heavens also were formed not in vain, but formed to be inhabited. Also, that the entire creation will be liberated from the bondage to decay by the children of God.

 

[Native]

"Will the Religions Ever be Completely Driven out by the Sciences?"

Personally, I look forward to the time where the very speculative standing modern cosmology is driven out and renewed by a modern interpretation of the religious cross-cultural Myths of Creation.

 

[Native]

Where is the line between, myth and religion. It seems we both have religion, so I don't think the op is referring to only certain types of religion.

That´s really my point. All the cultural Creation Myths on the Earth speaks of the very same: We all live on the same planet Earth, in the same Solar System, in the same Milky Way galaxy and in the same local part of the observable Universe.
This is the creation for all humans and this story is embedded in all cultural Myths of Creation, and if we include this entire scenario into the mythical/religious telling and symbolics, we can get a more logical explanation than from the very speculative modern cosmology.

 

[Skwim]

Will the religions ever be completely driven out by the sciences? Why or why not?

Heck no. There are too many people dependent on religion to get them through life. Religion will always have good support.

BONUS QUESTION: What will the relationship of the religions to the sciences be in 100 years?

The same. I see no reason why it should change: Religion will always be faith based while science will always be evidence based.

Will religions become increasingly aligned with the sciences by discarding notions that are contradicted by the sciences?

Not aligned; however, because of a better educated public I do see a slight increase in the percentage of people who abandon religion for science. But this is all dependent on social factors. Give us another world war or world famine and people will be jumping to religion for comfort in a heart beat.

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[osgart]

science is a way to manipulate reality and not so much explain it for why it is the way that it is.
so long as people can speculate, than the need for religion is going to be there. The religions of today are artifacts of a time gone by, and on it's way out.
as long as we can ask why there will always be religion. The religions of the future will be more sophisticated, and science will serve as a guidepost to future faiths and future speculations.

Religion itself will undergo drastic changes. but you can never prove out the immaterial with the material.

Religion of the future will base itself on facts, and no longer myth making, which will validate religion far beyond what awful thing it is today.