Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
I love you so much baby, I'm sorry. I promise it won't happen again. Just stop making me so mad.
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Will the Worldwide Epidemic of Violence Against Women and Children Ever Get Much Better?
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I love you so much baby, I'm sorry. I promise it won't happen again. Just stop making me so mad.
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Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
*polite clapping*
Me Myself
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That is curious. I havent seen much around this, but I know that when a woman abuses a man she is more prone to using weapons, while a man is more prone to using direct brawling.
Its a crazy thing. I have no idea how a police officer can just discard violence towards a woman as something up for the couple.
I mean, I can more or less imagine (not that I agree) how they discard it when a man says his woman beats him but its hard to imagine the other way around. Least for me.
Crazy world out there.
Not at all, I am just kind of curious of why putting women and children in the same category.
I mean there is violence in general, no human society seems to be immune to it because it is human nature. So, i am curious why you ask it specifically for women and children? Why less curious about violence against men? Or do you feel you have a better grasp into why that happens?
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I mean, why are adult males the only members of the human race whose victimhood is not a concern in this thread. Its just a question though, I am curious. Like, I always hear "women and children" , thats pretty much saying "everyone except men"
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Me Myself
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I didnt know they were making teather porn already!
Though ñi dont know how I could ve not thought it happened already
I can't fathom how they discard any reports, as I fully agree that sometimes it is the woman abusing the man; and ignoring it or pretending that can't happen is unconscionable on the side of law enforcement!
Me Myself said:
I'm not the OP, but if I had to guess, I think it has to do with disparity in native power (be it in terms of muscle mass, social standing, financial standing, etc.) Due to society still getting witht he 21st century, statistically women and children will still usually be the underdogs in this regard -- though you are absolutely right that often women and sometimes even children can be the abusers and the ones with disproportionate power (of whatever sort) to the victims.
Again, not the OP though, do not know if this was the intention or not.
Women and children seem to me treatable in a separate category because they are generally less powerful than the men in their societies.
But I think you are very wrong to imply I do not care about the violence against men simply because in one thread on one internet forum I choose to focus on women. I, for one, can walk and chew gum at the same time.
Me Myself
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Wow, where did I say that?
At least when you asked me if I thought we shouldnt care about women or something you wee actually asking me if your supposition about my point was correct.
: /
My question is a very valid and reasonable one. If you wanted to interpret it as you did, well, oh well.
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I mean in general the media puts the woman as a victim and the abusive man as a monster, so I cant imagine what kind of emotional reaction happens in their heads to discard a case of woman being beaten. In the pther hand, I can imagine they think a woman wont hit hard, or that the woman wont really hit e husband hard so they shouldnt worry about that given the general conceptions about this scenario. Again, non of this things are good to ignore, but I just cant imagine how they ignore a beaten woman. Its hard to imagine what goes through their heads.
I wouldnt put children in the same category than women on being the agressors. Tere is still controversy on the several studies being made, but the tendency seems to be very similar, among beaten men and beaten woman. There doesnt seem to be a great disparity on the numbers.
I mean, a reasonable question would be
How big is the differenc between violence against woman and men and children? This are things most of us dont really know.
Sure, we can know cases. I know a case of a man beaten by his gf with anger issues. Apparently they solved it... But the thing is, we need to stop putting "women and children" in the same caegory imho.
In some countries that mentality may work, but I think on a country trying to have more gender equality there needs to be a different outlook.
There are far more beaten women shelters than the opposite way around. Why "women" shelters? Why not just shelters for domestic abuse victims? Yet the shelters remain being for women and children, and if you are a male and go beyond say, thirteen years old, you are no longer for that shelter.
The thing is each culture and country will have different figures on all this stuff.
A woman beating a guy I assume its a new phenomena, but violenve in general between humans is not. The thread wasnt talking about domestic violence specifically, it said "epidemy of violence against women and children"
Yet for something to be "epidemic" it needs to be increasing.
While there is certainly still violence against women, I would be sure porcentage wise its decreasing. While we see now cases of domestic abuse against men, I wonder if those have always been as high or if that is the real epidemy?
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Human nature isn't static. It is full of a wide range of potentiality.
Think locally, act locally.
Pay attention to your neighbors and co-workers. Notice signs of abuse and approach such individuals if possible. Get them in touch with help lines and domestic violence agencies, or seek ways to establish such agencies in your community if none are available.
Suffer with the victims and show them how genuine love actually is. It is unfortunate that many women (and some men) feel trapped in their relationships and won't leave. They need to feel empowered first. Children, of course, cannot leave voluntarily so community effort is essential. It is also important not to teach children to be angry or possessive through our own actions so the cycle doesn't perpetuate into the next generation.
More education on aspects of humanism might help. That type of violence is ingrained as acceptable in many countries. Spreading the idea of how it is taboo helps.
I'm thinking about this again, and right now I believe that if we as a species can stop celebrating public torture and decapitations, stop cultural acceptance of slavery, if we can attain suffrage, stop internment camps, and welcome a culturally diverse community...I believe the epidemic of violence against women and children will get better.
Call me PollyAnna.
Me Myself
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I still dont get the OP.
Is there more violence against women and children today than there was yesterday? If not, then why call it an epidemy? Is there more violence against women and children than there is violence against men? If not, then why call it an epidemy?
I would suspect percentage wise there is less violence all around in the world today than there was yesterday, for all groups. Personwise, there is likely more, but that is because we have a heck of a lot more people.
Is there more violence against women and children today than there was yesterday? If not, then why call it an epidemy? Is there more violence against women and children than there is violence against men? If not, then why call it an epidemy?
I would suspect percentage wise there is less violence all around in the world today than there was yesterday, for all groups. Personwise, there is likely more, but that is because we have a heck of a lot more people.
if you get angry, deal with it. And take responsibility for your own actions.
LMAO. Good response. I take my hat off to you.
I suspect it's all related too.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
Okay, but I refuse to take responsibility for your lack of humor.
Pagan_Patriot
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Lol. It's not just women and children. It's everyone! Go to Chicago. A few hundred men were shot down there last year.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
It's also an epidemic of violence against common sense and reason. Just watch Fox News. Rational thought is murdered there on a daily basis!
That could be their next slogan: "Fox -- We're serial killers of rational thought."