Will there ever be a 'Reformation' in Islam?

[sandandfoam]

Luther and others changed Christianity for ever with the Reformation. Will something similar ever happen in Islam?

 

[Breathe]

I think it may, actually.
I think the Qur'an Alone Muslims are the beginning of a form of Reformation. Maybe even with prayers being done in the vernacular as well.

 

[Nooj]

Luther and others changed Christianity for ever with the Reformation. Will something similar ever happen in Islam?

what do you think the reformation did to christianity? and so, what are you expecting out of an islamic reformation?

 

[sandandfoam]

what do you think the reformation did to christianity? and so, what are you expecting out of an islamic reformation?

I think the reformation changed Christianity in Western Europe constituted a radical break with tradition. Priests were married, Latin was left behind, orthodoxies were challenged and new ways of thinking emerged.

I wonder if a 'western Islam' might emerge from an islamic reformation - a break from Arabic, a break from Hadith for a start. But I don't know - hence my questioning.

 

[YmirGF]

I think the reformation changed Christianity in Western Europe constituted a radical break with tradition. Priests were married, Latin was left behind, orthodoxies were challenged and new ways of thinking emerged.

I wonder if a 'western Islam' might emerge from an islamic reformation - a break from Arabic, a break from Hadith for a start. But I don't know - hence my questioning.

If that does occur, Stephen, then the child of that product will not be Islam. I don't know what you may call it, but current Muslims will consider the child a *******.

 

[Awoon]

When we quit buying their oil.

 

[TashaN]

what do you think the reformation did to christianity? and so, what are you expecting out of an islamic reformation?

Good question.

 

[TashaN]

When we quit buying their oil.

Not all Muslim countries have oil, only some of them. You are confusing political with religious matters.

 

[Storm]

If that does occur, Stephen, then the child of that product will not be Islam. I don't know what you may call it, but current Muslims will consider the child a *******.

And they should get the final say, because...?

Like everything else, ideas adapt or die out.

 

[Storm]

Not all Muslim countries have oil, only some of them. You are confusing political with religious matters.

Granted, but from my admittedly ignorant pov, it does seem that our desperation to get said oil results in propping up theocracies. Those we don't support directly support others.

 

[Trey of Diamonds]

Sure, it has before and will again. If you look at Islam today and the Islam of the Ottoman Empire pre-WWI it's pretty different. Reform goes both ways, look at the attempts today to reform Christianity into a teapublican nightmare. :yes:

 

[TashaN]

Granted, but from my admittedly ignorant pov, it does seem that our desperation to get said oil results in propping up theocracies. Those we don't support directly support others.

The middle east was always the most important place of events since Adam and Eve till today.

 

[Nooj]

I think the reformation changed Christianity in Western Europe constituted a radical break with tradition. Priests were married, Latin was left behind, orthodoxies were challenged and new ways of thinking emerged.

I wonder if a 'western Islam' might emerge from an islamic reformation - a break from Arabic, a break from Hadith for a start. But I don't know - hence my questioning.

i think it's already happened. it happened in the 19th century with the rise of islamic modernist movements, like the wahhabi and salafi movements. they constitute a radical break from traditional islam.

 

[Storm]

The middle east was always the most important place of events since Adam and Eve till today.

That's a bit of an overstatement.

 

[TashaN]

I recall a hadith of the Prophet which states that in every 100 years, a Muslim reformer would arise.

 

[TashaN]

That's a bit of an overstatement.

How so?

 

[Storm]

How so?

Because the Middle East, theology aside, is not the center of the world, nor the crux of history. I mean, it would be simpler if it were, but when is reality simple?

 

[Awoon]

Not all Muslim countries have oil, only some of them. You are confusing political with religious matters.

All the same to me for the people over there in the Near and Middle East.

 

[Trey of Diamonds]

The middle east was always the most important place of events since Adam and Eve till today.

Nah. For one thing, Adam and Eve lived in Africa.

 

[sandandfoam]

i think it's already happened. it happened in the 19th century with the rise of islamic modernist movements, like the wahhabi and salafi movements. they constitute a radical break from traditional islam.

That is a very useful way of thinking about things, thank you.
Do you think that there is a comparison to be made between wahhabi's and puritans?